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Old 23rd June 2008, 04:12 PM
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But guilty is an album. Its supossed to sell more than a single...
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Old 23rd June 2008, 04:19 PM
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wow, guilty sold so much more than mw, which is so close to the 190k mark...
haha.. of course GUILTY sold more than MW because it's album with 14 tracks + photobook and MW only a single
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Old 23rd June 2008, 04:26 PM
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alittle bit dissapoimting, but i think ayu had made a great job
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Old 24th June 2008, 05:06 AM
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Old 29th June 2008, 09:58 AM
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Uh, I hope GUILTY stays in Top 10. That would be awesome. :3 But anyways, I like those positions. They aren't bad at all. Quite good actually.
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Old 23rd June 2008, 04:53 PM
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Mirrorcle World can probably climb up a lot of rankings by the end of the year, but GUILTY will probably fall. Kuu's Kingdom came out later and still sold more =T
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Old 23rd June 2008, 05:35 PM
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alittle bit dissapoimting, but i think ayu had made a great job
yah.. i'm little bit disapointed for GUILTY and AT 2007 but MW did good job on chart

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Mirrorcle World can probably climb up a lot of rankings by the end of the year, but GUILTY will probably fall. Kuu's Kingdom came out later and still sold more =T
i think MW will drop out from top 20 since so many singles realese soon
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Old 23rd June 2008, 06:31 PM
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Mirrorcle World can probably climb up a lot of rankings by the end of the year, but GUILTY will probably fall. Kuu's Kingdom came out later and still sold more =T
I don't think that the fact that Kingdom was released later and sold more (in just 60,000 copies which is a shame for kumi *looking at last year*) says something =P

If EXILE would release just 1 best every album would jump like 2 spots XD it would be cool.

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Old 23rd June 2008, 06:46 PM
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I don't think that the fact that Kingdom was released later and sold more (in just 60,000 copies which is a shame for kumi *looking at last year*) says something =P

If EXILE would release just 1 best every album would jump like 2 spots XD it would be cool.
Meh, it is Asia, 60k still a lot in terms of sales, they dun have album sales like in the U.S.

Since Kuu is sometimes considered her biggest competition, I was just comparing the two. GUILTY's sales still are a decrease compared to Secret so far, and it hasnt really had that good critical reception, so i jus dun expect it to get any higher in ranking
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Old 23rd June 2008, 06:55 PM
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Im satisfied with guilty's sales since it has the least decrease from the previous album compared to all her albums. Im also happy with MW and asia tour dvd sales. I thought asia tour dvd would selll like 60k or something.
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Old 23rd June 2008, 07:04 PM
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Meh, it is Asia, 60k still a lot in terms of sales, they dun have album sales like in the U.S.

Since Kuu is sometimes considered her biggest competition, I was just comparing the two. GUILTY's sales still are a decrease compared to Secret so far, and it hasnt really had that good critical reception, so i jus dun expect it to get any higher in ranking
The same is going for kumi though (that's why I said that it's a shame for her) Kingdom's decrease from Black Cherry is huge and large comparing to Secret and GUILTY which isn't really big =P
The whole competition thing was silly though I thought people got over it XD
I also think that 60,000 difference isn't big (for albums) because if an album will sell more than GUILTY and get it one position down, it will most likely will sell more than Kingdom too...
Next week B'z's album for example will sell more than both and get both down 1 position =\.

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Old 23rd June 2008, 07:21 PM
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The same is going for kumi though (that's why I said that it's a shame for her) Kingdom's decrease from Black Cherry is huge and large comparing to Secret and GUILTY which isn't really big =P
The whole competition thing was silly though I thought people got over it XD
I also think that 60,000 difference isn't big (for albums) because if an album will sell more than GUILTY and get it one position down, it will most likely will sell more than Kingdom too...
Next week B'z's album for example will sell more than both and get both down 1 position =\.
Yea your right the decrease from Secret and GUILTY isn't much. Theres still a chance GUILTY can catch up too. For me it wasn't the greatest album but I still wish the best for Ayu, considering if it doesn't catch up, you'll have degenerates like the ones who write wikipedia saying her sales are declining yet they don't realize her sales are only declining in Japan and they are skyrocketing in Asia

It wasn't really a competition, its jus something the media focused because a few years back no one really came close to the success and sales ayu did besides kuu. They work under the same label and everything so its not like the whole Ayu-Utada thingy.

Shame though that Kuu's one comment is hurting her so much.
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Old 23rd June 2008, 05:45 PM
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o well..nothin much we can do..but support her all the way
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Old 23rd June 2008, 06:13 PM
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If u look at the top 10 of last year's albums, the 10th album sold around Guilty numbers it could just make top 10 for the year. If only exile weren't releasing so many bests >_<
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well, it's good that they are all at least ON the charts
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Old 23rd June 2008, 08:59 PM
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Old 24th June 2008, 12:56 AM
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Guilty did pretty good for ayu's 1st no.2 original album. I am hoping that it will stay at the top 20. Mirrocle world is doing pretty good, hope that it will still stay at the top 20.

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Thanks infors and Congrats Ayu thu the rankings aren't that great but they're pretty good ^_^
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Old 24th June 2008, 04:43 AM
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I don't think kumi's fans (males and i dunno, hip teenage girls?) will be all that affected by her comment. Maybe black cherry just sounds better i dunno. And i feel that ayu should up her game on albums if we want her to sell better. Lately, i feel that her albums r compilations of random songs rather than a well thought through collection with a common theme. And Johnny's boybands are sometimes also promoted as a collective whole like countdowns where they all perform in dome together. So fans of arashi may be fans of kattun as well say. Whereas for avex, u get singer rivalry even though they are from the same label. All this is IMO...
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Old 25th June 2008, 09:17 PM
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I don't think kumi's fans (males and i dunno, hip teenage girls?) will be all that affected by her comment. Maybe black cherry just sounds better i dunno.
Going by the sales of Moon (which has 4 new songs), I don't think we can dismiss the possibility so easily...

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Lately, i feel that her albums r compilations of random songs rather than a well thought through collection with a common theme.
That's the case with most Japanese artists (even everyone else's favorite pop maestro/wunderkind/insert hyperfanatic label here Utada Hikaru), and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Japanese pop music is very much a singles industry, unlike in the West. That's why the singles come out before the album.
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