KPOP too overrated these days??

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Sorry to all the fans out there, but to me it is overrated, most forgettable pop music is anyway, so I'm guessing that in a few years something else is gonna come up, maybe it will be the turn for C-pop to govern?? I don't know lol

Is not like I don't listen to crap pop music too lol In my case, is like a Language thing. I prefer my music in Japanese, and it could sound silly, but I do. Korean sounds, difficult to follow. And I don't understand a thing.

I find it super unfair how in my city there's shops with Korean music and all, and nothing about J-pop!! So even in here K-pop is super overrated =/

[bluegie]

Right now Korean stuff is a big thing in Asia (according to what I read online). It's still a "new" thing. Japanese stuff are not unpopular, but they've been established on Asian market for so long and its popularity is at the saturated point I guess.

[hearted]

Originally Posted by nanakopy87

(another remember 'because i'm a girl'?)

MY FIRST KPOP SONG ;_______________; the mv was so heartbreaking

[Calico]

To be honest, I've only just recently in the past year totally gotten in K-pop after being resistent for so long. (mostly because I always feel like I have to 'catch up' and get lost, ha)

like emiko said, if it's not the kind of stuff you like, then yeah, you're probably more keen to think it's overrated. And oh yeah, a lot of "k-pop fans" are just ridiculous. But I could say the same about j-pop fans. I think what turns a lot of people off (and on) is that it's so influenced by Western pop music as opposed to J-pop. Most of us probably got into J-pop because it was so "different" than what we were used to hearing.

Also, I agree that a lot of the cookie-cuttering does get annoying in k-pop groups, but in those groups there are a LOT of talented men and women, guys and gals. It does get kind of annoying when people just write them all off as singing and dancing dolls. Some of them train for yeeaaaars just to get a debut in a group. I've gotta admire that stamina.

I also think that a lot of people are feeling saturated because "groups" are in as opposed to just solo artists, so we're constantly being inundated with a whole bunch of faces and images. I've always found that intimidating, anyway.

[TofuBunny]

Originally Posted by ExodusUK

I don't get Kpop, the songs are catchy but the pop stars are just boring and average, they could be anyone plus they're pretty talentless.

I don't want to be rude or force my opinion of anyone .. But that's EXACTLY what I was talking about in ruling artists out thread, a lot of people here seem to listen to a few popular songs and make a whole generalization about all Korean idol groups out there.
Yes they could be anyone and that's why a lot of fans (including me) adore them, if you watch their variety shows (I recommend them btw, they're hugely entertaining) you'd notice how they're just ordinary people, they remind me of my friends
And about talent, a lot them are amazing vocalists and dancers .. I could make you a long list of talented kpop idols who are good enough to have solo careers ._. .. You just need to look hard enough

[murasakinohana]

But it's fun to listen to and that's ALL I CARE!!

[ayu_fantasy]

I think SNSD is the most overrated...

[Tom Punks]

I never get the whole "k-pop idols aren't talented" thing. I mean, if you look at singing and dancing alone, they blow most Japanese pop stars out of the water (especially Japanese groups like AKB48 who, as much as I love them, can't sing or dance to save their lives). And if you're going to just be a pop star, all you really need is to be a good singer and a good dancer. You don't need to have amazing composition skills like Hikki or amazing lyric writing skills like Ayu.

But yeah, if you don't like mindless, fun, catchy pop, of course you're going to think k-pop is overrated.

[JackieRos]

Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy

I think SNSD is the most overrated...

thank you

[bondingo]

Originally Posted by AsukaRoses

I heard that everyone hated SNSD and wouldn't give them a break until they released Gee

Well SNSD didn't really have anything that good out until Gee. I've been a fan for awhile now, and I still don't listen to much from before then.

Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite

Yes, I think KPop is overrated, I stopped listening to it just less than a month of getting into it.
Here's my reasons
- When a new fashion style is popular EVERY GROUP will wear the same **** to the point that they all look the same.
- Most of the songs sounds the same.
- When an artist release something new it is automatically called a comeback.
- The songs are generic.
- KPop fans are just annoying.

The comeback thing always annoyed me too. I also hate how a lot of K-Pop fans are so up their own asses and think they're hot **** when it's like really now? You spend all day in front of the computer trying to be sassy, using abbreviations NO ONE uses, listening to K-Pop...how are you in any way cool? But honestly though, J-Pop is extremely generic for the most part too. I do think you find a little less variety in K-Pop when it comes to the really popular music, but so many J-Pop singers have been releasing the same dull, generic J-Pop for the last decade or so that it's just tiresome. Just look at Koda Kumi. I absolutely love her, but a lot of what she's done seems to sound the same.

I love K-Pop, but I totally understand why some people wouldn't like it.

[ton_ton]

Like emiko stated, it really depends on whether you like the songs/artists or not. If you like something then you will less likely say that it is overrated.

I did notice though that I like songs of A LOT of different k-pop artists, while I can't say the same thing about j-pop. Most of the time there's atleast one song that I like from a new release of a kpop artist. One of the reasons could be that they're all 'the same', have 'the same' style. So if you don't like that style, kpop could be overrated for you. But yeah it could also have other reasons

And I've noticed that there was a period that everyone had discovered jpop and was all into it. Now, jpop has faded, I notice more people are getting into kpop, they try to discover other things. So that could be a reason why it's all about kpop lately. Or it could be vice versa... it's all about kpop so that's why people get into it easily, I guess it's a neverending circle XD

And about the comeback thing... yeah I never understood it XD But I like kpop since I've got the feeling that the artists are active in all kind of fields XD

[Mirai Noah]

When I was first really getting into J-Pop (almost ten years ago... O__O), I discovered K-Pop (and C-Pop) as well. I first listened to BoA's Korean music before her Japanese music, and also I listened to groups like S.E.S., Baby V.O.X., and Shinhwa. However, those groups disbanded/disappeared, and BoA began focusing on her Japanese music, so I more or less stopped listening to K-Pop. She was the only Korean artist I've been following (although I guess that Younha counts too) until a few weeks ago when I decided to finally give Girls' Generation a try. And I really like them.

Originally Posted by Beauty4123

i feel as if in kpop, there's not much variety compared to jpop.

I feel that way too, but I do know that there is more diversity in K-Pop music... it's just that those artists aren't as popular on the internet so we aren't as exposed to them as much.

Originally Posted by KarenPang

3) I can't understand a single word of Korean

4) It took me close to 4 years to understand how things are worked in the Japanese context & I don't want to spend the same amount of time/effort to do that for KPop

I know maybe three words in Korean, so I totally get what you mean. I can't even really read romanized Korean. :| Same with learning about context. I've been watching BoA's new Korean lives and I'm confused since I guess the one show is a competition and she was winning? I dunno. I've also been watching some of SNSD's shows, and I hate that the replay the same line over and over again. It's the like the video's skipping.

Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite

When an artist release something new it is automatically called a comeback.

This bothers me too. BoA, I can understand since she hadn't released a Korean album in five years, but I see it being used for everyone, even if they released something earlier in the year!

Originally Posted by Calico

To be honest, I've only just recently in the past year totally gotten in K-pop after being resistent for so long. (mostly because I always feel like I have to 'catch up' and get lost, ha)

[...]

I also think that a lot of people are feeling saturated because "groups" are in as opposed to just solo artists, so we're constantly being inundated with a whole bunch of faces and images. I've always found that intimidating, anyway.

Yeah, I only recently gave into listening to SNSD. I'd been jaded by the earlier K-Pop groups that I liked disappearing, so I gave up on the Korean music industry and mainly listened to J-Pop. Then I tried real hard not to get interested in all the new groups popping up, and having to play catch up.

I find it intimidating too. With groups I feel like to need to learn all about each member (that's actually why I stayed away from Hello!Project initially, but obviously that didn't work ). I'm still learning how to tell all the SNSD girls apart.

Originally Posted by Tom Punks

I never get the whole "k-pop idols aren't talented" thing. I mean, if you look at singing and dancing alone, they blow most Japanese pop stars out of the water (especially Japanese groups like AKB48 who, as much as I love them, can't sing or dance to save their lives).

Yeah, as much as I love Hello!Project (and I do love H!P a lot), a lot of the girls don't sing very well. Listening to SNSD has blown my mind because they all sing great.

I don't like saying things are overrated. Like emiko said:

Originally Posted by emiko

Depends if it's your cup of tea or not. If you don't care for their mainstream type of music, then of course you're probably gonna be like "wth is this crap".

[...]

I could see how some people could like...specify more, and say "so and so is overrated" or "their mainstream pop scene is overrated"...but then it's still all based on opinion isn't it.

[miroro]

wait.. why is people pissed about calling comebacks comebacks?
they're coming back with new music @_@ it's normal to call it a comeback

and don't know how people can say kpop idols aren't talented. They're trained for years (yes,, for years, day & night, sleeping just 3 or 4 hours a day). When they debut, it's almost the same. They need to make 3/4 live performances a week in music shows.

Kpop idols are way more talented & hardworkes than MOST of the japanese singers poeple like here.

and it's funny to see people here not liking kpop because it's "mainstream" when all their japanese singers they listen are mainstream too

[Yumsushi]

The problem for me with Kpop is that most of the boy or girls bands are one or two hit wonders; they these songs that are seriously amazing and the rest is all mediocre and only the bands 'personality' or attitude is what keeps them in the public eye. But I think the same thing of certain aspects Jpop like Johnny's or other idol groups like AKB or morning musume (except imo the Kpop idols have better hit songs than the equivalent Japanese groups)

[primavera♥]

I think lots follow it like a trend. Like my good friend.

I treat mainstream kpop like I treat johnnys and japanese idol groups...I find it all quite overrated just because I don't think they're amazing. At all
Or consistent for that matter.

I used to just avoid kpop but then I asked for some in a thread here. And I listened to a ton. I came out only loving one artists and hey were k-indie lol
I love most types of music. Even "generic mainstream" music. If its good its good.
Most kpop groups and artists just have music I can't like. Not even catchy. Annoying.
But good songs can be produced. Like G-dragons Butterfly imo.

Even BoA I already loved BoA before HV. I got into her when I got into jpop. She was catchy and fun and generally lovely. I still like some of those songs
HV just made me lose hope in loving BoA songs. I mean. Even BoA was just like any other mainstream kpop artist. just a solo one
There's another female artists who I feel the same about

Oh well~ I'm sure ill find another one of those songs I love within the mainstream kpop that most fans obsess over.

But I DO like K-indie now. Some good stuff there.

But I'm happy kpop exists as with any music. If peoe are enjoying it then that's fantastic

As for kpop fans....lol....the only thing that somewhat bothers me is when i see some so harsly criticizing american mainstream artists and denying them having any talent or being too generic or copies etc. Its like very ironic to me. XD

[bluegie]

Originally Posted by MirrocleHeaven*

and don't know how people can say kpop idols aren't talented. They're trained for years (yes,, for years, day & night, sleeping just 3 or 4 hours a day). When they debut, it's almost the same. They need to make 3/4 live performances a week in music shows.

I dunno about other people, but I dun think KPop idols are unskilled. Their dancing is quite a thing actually, and some boy or girl groups do have better vocals compared to johnnys or momosu or AKB48. But.. I dunno, I like dance songs, but all the boys and girls are doing dance music, and even their line ups are in similar format. I believe that there are solo acts that are talented in vocals, but they are underwhelmed by the boy/girl groups that keep flooding out dance songs. It does get people bored sometimes..

[Polyrhythm]

Err.......talent≠skills learned in training. Talent is natural. If you teach a dog to sit that doesnt make it talented at sitting

Anyway, I think a lot of people here have really good points. I agree that kpop idols could really be anyone. They're constantly scouting out people with good looks and converting them into popstars.

[hearted]

^^the thing is.. boybands and girlgroups release catchy songs just to be recognized. korea likes catchy songs. they arent gonna look at you if you release a ballad (though there are some exeptions). a mini or full album almost always exist of the main-song, which is almost always catchy and dancable, and then there are some other songs on it that showcase their real vocal talent, and these idols can SING!!! seriously, some of these girls/boys have amaaaaazing voices and its kinda a shame that they cant really show it to the public

[Kingdom]

I love most k-pop but I agree it's overrated, and I love to read the comments on allkpop because the people are so stupid!

[Calico]

Originally Posted by MirrocleHeaven*

wait.. why is people pissed about calling comebacks comebacks?
they're coming back with new music @_@ it's normal to call it a comeback

Because "comeback" implies that they've been gone for years. Like BoA in Korea. Obviously the market is always changing, but when it's only been a few months/a year since your last release I hardly call that a "comeback". But that's the k-pop market I guess.