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Old 1st June 2011, 04:46 PM
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Holy **** discussion o.0

I was saying that melodies on Gaga's album sound random, that was NOT a quality statement. Random does NOT mean bad in this case. If I like the album or not is another thing. Random notes are a stilistic device in, for example, trance music. And clashig notes, which tends to happen if something sounds random, are used in some rock, metal and classical/neoclassical music on purpose to create an effect. See "Art of Life" by X-Japan for that.

I was simply pointing out that "progress" follows all the traditional rules of songwriting to the person that called it random. And if something follows rules it is not random. There are 2 possibilities. Either "progress" is random but just happens to have all notes be harmonic(highly unlikely) or it is NOT random.
While some songs on Gaga's new album do not appear to do that, I was not saying either one is bad. I used Gaga's new album because it is one of the few pop albums I can think of that have that and are popular and new enough for people to remember the songs.

And Ayumi has had clashing notes before, mostly in her CREA-era, doesn't mean the songs were bad(though for some IMO it amde them worse), it just showed that she was an amateur songwriter, a VERY talented one, but amateur.
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Old 1st June 2011, 05:23 PM
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And Ayumi has had clashing notes before, mostly in her CREA-era, doesn't mean the songs were bad(though for some IMO it amde them worse), it just showed that she was an amateur songwriter, a VERY talented one, but amateur.
Then why didn't you just compare Ayu to Ayu instead of Gaga in the first place if you wanted to make a point? Any time you compare Ayu's music to another (popular) artist, it's going to start trouble even if you didn't intend for it to be a negative statement on either part lol. We either have a bashing thread for the mentioned artist or we have a "this artist is better than Ayu" thread. Either way the fans get *****y so it's best to leave Gaga & Co. out of this.


So what example do you have of clashing notes from CREA's works?
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Old 1st June 2011, 05:02 PM
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Oh GAWD, apparently Gaga is the new Kuu for everyone to compare about.

Wouldn't it be awesome if the PV for progress had some action in it? Kind of like how Rule was slightly thematically like Dragon Ball.
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Old 2nd June 2011, 06:27 AM
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I really don't get the sending mail comparisons. I mean, sending mail's chorus is very repetitive - not much change in melody. Repeat, repeat, repeat. I love sending mail, don't get me wrong (2nd fav on Love songs next to November) - but I am not hearing the comparison.
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For some reason this song just screams "GREEN" at me and the chorus sounds like a more upbeat and "upside-down" version of GREEN's chorus xD

I think I would have preferred Ayu to be a voice in the game than this song, it's kind of underwhelming. Hoping it will grow on me instead :3
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Old 1st June 2011, 10:19 PM
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time for me to buy PS3. lol...
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That sounds not too good =(

I hope it will grow on me again^^
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I actually really like it. There's a sound about it that reminds me of her older works. And there certainly is a distinct quality in her voice that's different... I wonder if she's taken different measures to improve. I'm curious and excited. Thank you for sharing!
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Old 2nd June 2011, 01:44 AM
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Haven't been much into Ayu and when I hear a new song that sounds exactly like songs from a few years ago... well, let's just say that it is disappointing.
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Haven't been much into Ayu and when I hear a new song that sounds exactly like songs from a few years ago... well, let's just say that it is disappointing.
Exactly like what songs from a few years ago? Don't tell me it reminds you of HEAVEN or part of Me?

While the first few seconds of the verse do remind me of blossom all the similarities with the other songs end there for me.
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Can't even peoples here...omg

I SWARE you're never happy or??
It's even better than the previous one I really like it.

You are all boring.
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Old 2nd June 2011, 04:42 AM
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thanks misa-chan for the translation!!

i can't wait for the full version. have been repeating the chorus part whole day lol.

i think the opening sounds abit like Duty.
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Old 2nd June 2011, 05:16 AM
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This is really an "Ayu-ish" song. Some parts of the chorus (melody) remind me of "GREEN" and some "Blossom".

I love the last part of the song which gives me goosebumps. The piano and melody part reminds me of Koda's 1000 no kotoba.

This is good. Can't wait for the full version.
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Not overly impressed..gona wait for the full song
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love the song but do not the like "cute" voice in the verse, but i loveee this song, very promising!
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If Ayu can have songs, such as ANGEL'S SONG and fairyland, which apparently sound similar (I never heard the similarities), then progress can sound like blossom.
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Old 2nd June 2011, 11:59 AM
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If Ayu can have songs, such as ANGEL'S SONG and fairyland, which apparently sound similar (I never heard the similarities), then progress can sound like blossom.
the only similarity i found are only glitter and BLUE BIRD, which are mixed in the mashed up mega mix (not sure the name).

i do hear a little bit of blossom in the verses of progress.
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Old 2nd June 2011, 04:50 PM
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If Ayu can have songs, such as ANGEL'S SONG and fairyland, which apparently sound similar (I never heard the similarities), then progress can sound like blossom.
The way the beat is and the progression of the song in the verses really is similar to blossom though.
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