ARENA TOUR 2012 A ~HOTEL Love songs~ information thread [III]

[AyuWorld]

Originally Posted by chu-lips

was it because she didn't want to
take a bow to Thailand's princess?

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I think the Thai thing was made up, haha. Why is that rumor still a thing anyway?

From 2003:

Spoiler:

Pretty sure it was as true as the "Timmy" boyfriend thing with a Tiffany ring/bracelet or whatever back in 2006. The 'source' is one of those tabloids that tends to report on Ayu's multiple abortions and such.

omg i REALLY that the news is not true at all, i mean really?? why must she was so reluctant to see the Princess?and she didnt want to meet the fans? it seems not so ayu the way the told the story,i think this is the same year as Uraayu photobook had been published,remember saw the making of where people run for her like crazy even on the streets,i think shes enjoy the fact that people were chasing after the "Queen of Jpop Hamasaki Ayumi"

Originally Posted by chu-lips

anyway
is there any of member here having pictures when Ayu was in Thailand?

got a thread bout that here,but no pics http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2783

Originally Posted by polka-dot-jewel

This could easily be a rumor, I thought Ayu couldn't do a concert in Singapore because the cost would be too much? That's what I remember reading back in 2007 or 2008, anyway. I'm sure her net's gone down a bit so the cost of having her perform would be down a bit.

I'd like to see her explore a bit more of Asia myself as well and perform in Singapore, Taiwan, Philippines, Malaysia, etc. Of course, the US would be nice, and I'm sure she would love to perform here, or at one point wanted to, but realistically speaking, she'd perform in Asia before anywhere else.

yea i hope that she will explore other parts of Asia too,especially South East Asia,come one avex should fans been waiting for her for years to visit there, she even just went to Singapore for like once? im sure she will get to learn something new visiting various places other then LA,Hawaii,NY,UK,China,HK

[freedreamer]

she needs an epic asia tour next year T.T

[tiffanytgs]

I hope SM Town will make Avex change their mind and come Singapore for the concert!!~ Hopefully her next destination is outside Japan, then that will be my next travel destination ><" or i have to keep going back to that expensive japan T.T!

[freedreamer]

Originally Posted by tiffanytgs

I hope SM Town will make Avex change their mind and come Singapore for the concert!!~ Hopefully her next destination is outside Japan, then that will be my next travel destination ><" or i have to keep going back to that expensive japan T.T!

let's just pray hard it can happen. if she performs at the floating platform, that would be so EPIC

[MeyChan]

OOHHHGG!! I needed to listen Next Love live version...
I love this song... Ayu sounds great...

[truehappiness]

I think the Thai thing was made up, haha. Why is that rumor still a thing anyway?

From 2003:

Spoiler:

I know this is old news, but .....
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/membe...20030202tc.htm

She didn't really want to go. "What do I have to go to Thailand for?" she grumbled. Even the prospect of an audience with a royal princess failed to rouse her. Was she herself not royalty? The queen of J-Pop? The mainstay of a sagging music industry? The first, second and last word in teen and post-teen fashion? God herself, to her millions of fans?

Ayumi Hamasaki, at 24, is all these things, and this quasi-diplomatic mission to Bangkok, where she would have to kneel before a mere princess by blood, left her cold. But the Thai-government was keen to host her, and her record company was keen to send her, and so, sullenly resenting that all the worship she commands has not made her mistress of her own fate, she went. It would have been better if she'd stayed home.

Shukan Bunshun recounts the fiasco.

The prime mover, with staunch Thai government backing, was the Thai Gem and Jewelry Traders Association. Thailand's biggest market for its gem exports is Japan. Who better than Hamasaki to implant in Japanese young people a craving for Thai rubies?

The arrangements that took shape called for her to spend four days in Bangkok. On Day Three she would take part in a palace ceremony and present Princess Ubonratana, the eldest daughter of King Rama IX, with the 3.6 million yen collected by the TGJTA for the princess' narcotics eradication program.

Hamasaki left Narita for Bangkok on Nov. 26. Trouble began before the Thai Airways plane was off the ground. Her luggage, with its 100 outfits, took time to load. Her protests over the seating arrangements took time to deal with -- she was not pleased to learn the first-class seat next to hers would be occupied. When the plane finally took off, 40 minutes late, the seat in question was taken -- reports Shukan Bunshun -- by Hamasaki's teddy bear.

At Bangkok's Don Muang Airport, the star snubbed a troupe of Thai dancers on hand to welcome her and brushed past a pack of reporters into a waiting limo, which whisked her along streets cleared of traffic to her $2,600-a-night accommodation at the Peninsula Hotel.

For the next two days she behaved as if her mission entailed offending as many people as possible, giving short shrift to reporters, abruptly canceling a scheduled TV appearance, and indulging in the sort of conspicuous consumption that is an outrage to less privileged members of our species.

Then came the "main event." One of 10 VIP participants, Hamasaki was ushered into a palace waiting room to await a rehearsal. There were formalities to master: the proper bow, the proper deportment (don't look higher than the princess' eyes). The rehearsal duly began -- but where was Hamasaki? When had she slipped out?

The ceremony was over before she reappeared, looking perfectly composed. Adding insult to injury, one of her staffers snapped a photo of the princess.

"It's a rather embarrassing story," a record company spokesperson tells Shukan Bunshun. "Hamasaki simply refused to take part. She said she wouldn't kneel to the princess. Her staff tried to make her see reason, but it was no use. 'I don't want to, and that's that,' she said."

With that she flounced out through a back exit and took refuge, apparently, in a parked bus. Just an over-pampered kid in a bad mood, you might say. True -- but Shukan Bunshun wonders if Hamasaki realizes how close she came to getting herself arrested. The Thai royal family enjoys a quasi-divine status, similar to that of Japan's prewar emperor. An insult to the royals is no laughing matter. On the contrary, it's generally a police matter. Hamasaki got away with it, the magazine speculates, only because Princess Ubonratana has a soft spot for performers.

I'm half Thai, so I suppose I automatically felt kind of insulted. My grandparents were nobility in Thailand, and there, nobility is something that is EARNED by a person's merits, not something one is born into. Ayu is just as much a commoner as the princess. It's a slightly more egalitarian and meritocratic way of life than Ayu's used to, I suppose ....

I couldn't believe it when I read it, that Ayu could be so rude to her hosts. I HIGHLY respect and love Ayu, and to hear tell of her being so childish and petulant kind of bothers me .... I hope she's not like that anymore ....

Pretty sure it was as true as the "Timmy" boyfriend thing with a Tiffany ring/bracelet or whatever back in 2006. The 'source' is one of those tabloids that tends to report on Ayu's multiple abortions and such.

[Delicious n Bold]

I'm a bit late, but thanks for sharing the YouTube vids.
Not to be blunt... Oh forget it, lets be blunt. Ayu RUINED 'appears'!
#dead
I think I'm gonna cry for a few days in a corner...

[JEWELian]

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

I'm a bit late, but thanks for sharing the YouTube vids.
Not to be blunt... Oh forget it, lets be blunt. Ayu RUINED 'appears'!
#dead
I think I'm gonna cry for a few days in a corner...

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She sang it flawlessly at all three dates I went to...
People also really responded well to the song. The first time in Shizuoka there was a whole group of girls in the row in front who all just screamed "natsukashii~~~~~~~~"

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by JEWELian

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She sang it flawlessly at all three dates I went to...
People also really responded well to the song. The first time in Shizuoka there was a whole group of girls in the row in front who all just screamed "natsukashii~~~~~~~~"

Yup. I don't think that she could've done it better. People loved it and so did I.

[Chris85]

Originally Posted by JEWELian

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She sang it flawlessly at all three dates I went to...
People also really responded well to the song. The first time in Shizuoka there was a whole group of girls in the row in front who all just screamed "natsukashii~~~~~~~~"

I must say that this song is one of my favourite performances of the show. I got so excited when the song intro started :-))
She sang it really, really good on 08/11, but on 08/12 she was out of tune the whole song, so it's not fair to say that she sang it flawlessly during both shows in Fukuoka.

[chu-lips]

anyway
is there any of member here having pictures when Ayu was in Thailand?

[Jawdarna]

I'm pretty sure she should do a show here in Australia! (technically we should be considered South-East Asians, and thus, an eligible stop for an Asian tour!)

I'm surprised she hasn't visited yet (or has she?).

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by Jawdarna

I'm pretty sure she should do a show here in Australia! (technically we should be considered South-East Asians, and thus, an eligible stop for an Asian tour!)

I'm surprised she hasn't visited yet (or has she?).

With how far apart people live I don't think she will go. Even though it may technically be considered part of Asia(never heard of that before, btw), it's a country with western culture and language, the vast majority of people have never heard about Ayumi and the density of people living there is so low it's logistically a bad idea to go unless you know for a fact you have many fans that will come.

[Jawdarna]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

With how far apart people live I don't think she will go. Even though it may technically be considered part of Asia(never heard of that before, btw), it's a country with western culture and language, the vast majority of people have never heard about Ayumi and the density of people living there is so low it's logistically a bad idea to go unless you know for a fact you have many fans that will come.

Haha, no, we're considered Oceania but due to our position geographically, we should really be considered South East Asia. Regardless, I've met quite a few people here who know who she is (no where near as well known as Namie Amuro though). I think it would be possible for her to come here; but she would be confined to Sydney/Melbourne. Are you actually Australian/live in the Eastern states? (I used to live in the West and nobody knows who the hell she is there).

Anyway, back on topic. I really hope she does do a world tour, even if it's not for her 15th, perhaps her 20th?

[Yukitora]

Originally Posted by Jawdarna

Haha, no, we're considered Oceania but due to our position geographically, we should really be considered South East Asia. Regardless, I've met quite a few people here who know who she is (no where near as well known as Namie Amuro though). I think it would be possible for her to come here; but she would be confined to Sydney/Melbourne. Are you actually Australian/live in the Eastern states? (I used to live in the West and nobody knows who the hell she is there).

Anyway, back on topic. I really hope she does do a world tour, even if it's not for her 15th, perhaps her 20th?

I live in WA. and considering 80% of WA seems to be Asian (I have no idea where everyone else is, seriously. At the beach maybe?) people certainly know her here. Heck, I see her face in magazines every time I ride through past the City.

[Jawdarna]

Originally Posted by Yukitora

I live in WA. and considering 80% of WA seems to be Asian (I have no idea where everyone else is, seriously. At the beach maybe?) people certainly know her here. Heck, I see her face in magazines every time I ride through past the City.

I lived/was born in country WA, so that would explain why!
( I lived there for nearly my entire life; nobody listens to anything different there but from what they listen to on the radio, but I'm sure that it is the same everywhere in country Australia, the amount of immigrants/people with origins outside of Australia just don't seem to flock there like they do in cities).
I know!!! It's the same over here at the moment.
I think she could definitely pull the numbers for a concert here.

I actually have seen quite a few users on AHS from Perth, but I thought I had better comment on my own experience of nobody knowing her (but like I said before, it is flawed considering I have not yet lived in Perth).

[douggn]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

With how far apart people live I don't think she will go. Even though it may technically be considered part of Asia(never heard of that before, btw), it's a country with western culture and language, the vast majority of people have never heard about Ayumi and the density of people living there is so low it's logistically a bad idea to go unless you know for a fact you have many fans that will come.

Australians don't live far apart from each other and Australia is only a 9hr flight from Melbourne to Tokyo. And Iv guess you never seen the citys now a days. They are basically made up of Asian's now a days along with other cultures, with ayumi stuff not that hard to find in the city's, if you know where to look Australia also has a tie to Japan going back ages. The town I live's sister city is Takasago

[JEWELian]

Originally Posted by douggn

Australians don't live far apart from each other and Australia is only a 9hr flight from Melbourne to Tokyo. And Iv guess you never seen the citys now a days. They are basically made up of Asian's now a days along with other cultures, with ayumi stuff not that hard to find in the city's, if you know where to look Australia also has a tie to Japan going back ages. The town I live's sister city is Takasago

Er what part of Australia do you live in? We DO live far apart from each other, we're a freaking huge country and it's not the easiest thing to simply just travel interstate for a concert. 10% of Melbourne's population is Chinese and even then some really popular Taiwanese and HK singers have a hard time selling out concerts or only do the one date in a small venue.

For someone like ayumi to come here she wouldn't sacrifice her stage and show. She would also need a fanbase and if she were going to start anywhere it'd be America.

Wait why are we even talking about this? She hasn't even shown any inkling towards wanting to branch outside of Asia, and even then she hasn't been active outside of Japan for a few years now (aside from work related trips for photoshoots).

[FoxyPinkGirl]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

With how far apart people live I don't think she will go. Even though it may technically be considered part of Asia(never heard of that before, btw), it's a country with western culture and language, the vast majority of people have never heard about Ayumi and the density of people living there is so low it's logistically a bad idea to go unless you know for a fact you have many fans that will come.

Actually Asian music is booming here in North America. People are starting to grow tired of the same old and want something new. In fact there are some K-Pop and Japanese artists touring here in the US right now and are really gaining a following and getting noticed. So Ayu can really tap into that. Its not thàt she can't, she never tried. Look at all the other successful forgien artists who've been successful going international, Ayu could be amongst them.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by FoxyPinkGirl

Actually Asian music is booming here in North America. People are starting to grow tired of the same old and want something new. In fact there are some K-Pop and Japanese artists touring here in the US right now and are really gaining a following and getting noticed. So Ayu can really tap into that. Its not thàt she can't, she never tried. Look at all the other successful forgien artists who've been successful going international, Ayu could be amongst them.

Korean pop is mostly produced by European and American producers so it's not really anything new and the same goes for many jpop artists, at least the ones doing mainstream stuff. I don't think any of them will ever become really famous world wide while they are singing in their native languages. Yes some may succeed in having a single smash hit, but that's prolly as far is it will go.