[News] New Album TROUBLE on 15th August

[Aderianu]

I can't see any concept here. All 3 covers are completely different and don't match with each over

[xLuna&1LOVE]

However the Deluxe cover is not really my cup of tea, I like the photoshoot that comes with it but holy damn, that is expensive. Google calculated that it is about 142 euros and no please... that is extremely expensive for what you are getting.

Also so what is te difference between jacket A or B? Just the cover?

Edit; oh wait. Apparantly I have the most expensive version calculated. The others are 71 euro. Still expensive, that is food for a month.

[KittyKathy]

I don't like deluxe cover. I couldn't believe what I was looking at.

[aliceshields]

Thou I don’t have any expectation, but, I really didn’t expect the cover... I’m confused by the deluxe cover when I first look at it, is it for TROUBLE or mag ads or poster at CK store? I don’t know

[Chibi-Chan]

Someone here said this release looks like haters would have predicted her releases would look like in the future. Unfortunately this is very true.
This release is a total scam in every aspect and how on earth Ayu can release this without being ashamed is beyond me.

First of all, after two years, there are only three new songs on this so called "album". And no need to compare this to Memorial address, since this mini wasn't released after two years of nothing but with a very tight release schedule.
I couldn't care less about that there is no real theme behind the covers, because let's be honest, the times of great cover art are long long gone. But that she basically did an ad for CK this time is not even funny anymore. It's as if she doesn't respect her music and art at all anymore. I'm sure she gets paid for this kind of advertisement and has some kind of contract. Regarding the price for the box set this is more than just greedy. This is what bothers me most. It's so heavily overpriced I don't even know what to say anymore.
It's common for a lot of artists to release the same album with different DVD editions, so no hard feelings there. I'm always buying both DVD editions for Acid Black Cherry's albums, for example, who is also under avex by the way and who's sales are better than Ayu's (I'm saying this so that no one can say that this is normal for artists less popular than Ayu or has something to do with avex). But normally a full studio album plus a concert DVD plus deluxe packaging plus a normal booklet plus another booklet, with drawn pictures and a story that goes with the album, costs me around 5000¥. TROUBLE, which is a mini album, costs twice as much. Adding a key chain isn't an excuse for another 5000¥.
This is beyond greedy and I'm disappointed that Ayu actually decided to release this.
She could as well release a 3 A-side single, with WATQ and WORDS as different bonus tracks for different versions. That would actually be a normal and fair release.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan

Someone here said this release looks like haters would have predicted her releases would look like in the future. Unfortunately this is very true.
This release is a total scam in every aspect and how on earth Ayu can release this without being ashamed is beyond me.

First of all, after two years, there are only three new songs on this so called "album". And no need to compare this to Memorial address, since this mini wasn't released after two years of nothing but with a very tight release schedule.
I couldn't care less about that there is no real theme behind the covers, because let's be honest, the times of great cover art are long long gone. But that she basically did an ad for CK this time is not even funny anymore. It's as if she doesn't respect her music and art at all anymore. I'm sure she gets paid for this kind of advertisement and has some kind of contract. Regarding the price for the box set this is more than just greedy. This is what bothers me most. It's so heavily overpriced I don't even know what to say anymore.
It's common for a lot of artists to release the same album with different DVD editions, so no hard feelings there. I'm always buying both DVD editions for Acid Black Cherry's albums, for example, who is also under avex by the way and who's sales are better than Ayu's (I'm saying this so that no one can say that this is normal for artists less popular than Ayu or has something to do with avex). But normally a full studio album plus a concert DVD plus deluxe packaging plus a normal booklet plus another booklet, with drawn pictures and a story that goes with the album, costs me around 5000¥. TROUBLE, which is a mini album, costs twice as much. Adding a key chain isn't an excuse for another 5000¥.
This is beyond greedy and I'm disappointed that Ayu actually decided to release this.
She could as well release a 3 A-side single, with WATQ and WORDS as different bonus tracks for different versions. That would actually be a normal and fair release.

It's really hard to disagree...I don't mind the random product placement that much, but if there are really only 5 tracks this is really showing that they have no respect for their customers, albeit no one is making us buy anything.

Considering the venues she'll be doing, the concert tickets are over-priced as well.

[LOGMAN]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

It's really hard to disagree...I don't mind the random product placement that much, but if there are really only 5 tracks this is really showing that they have no respect for their customers, albeit no one is making us buy anything.

Nah pretty easy to disagree; 1900 for a mini-album isn't that over-priced. 8000 for a concert blu-ray in a deluxe box is fairly standard. I've paid more for about the same.

We're not dealing with a rational fan, though. This is someone who has already said they hate the music, the photos and declared the whole release a fail before any of these details were even announced. Yet she'll still spend 20,000 on it all, then when it arrives she'll barely listen to it or look at the photos and then come here to complain about how awful it all is and how mad she is at Au for making her spend so much money on something she never wanted.

This is not 10,000 for 5 songs. No one is being forced to spend that much on something they are't interested in. If someone buys this with good intentions and then finds when it arrives they are disappointed with the quality of the workmanship, the video/audio quality of the DVDs/blu-rays, then for sure they can complain about spending so much and getting a subpar item. But until, complaining about the price and contents just seems redundant.

[xLuna&1LOVE]

Originally Posted by LOGMAN

We're not dealing with a rational fan, though. This is someone who has already said they hate the music, the photos and declared the whole release a fail before any of these details were even announced. Yet she'll still spend 20,000 on it all, then when it arrives she'll barely listen to it or look at the photos and then come here to complain about how awful it all is and how mad she is at Au for making her spend so much money on something she never wanted.

I don't feel personally attacked, even though I have written as well that I think this release is really expensive. But this post is clearly directed towards a certain member, and I can guess who. I just want to say, that this post has a very mean untone towards her, (calling her out as a being a not-rational fan already set that tone) which I find completely unnecessairy, especially since she never did anything to you. So, please... keep it friendly?

[LOGMAN]

Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE

I have written as well that I think this release is really expensive.

I agree it is expensive - I find blu-rays and box sets like this in Japan are generally far more expensive than most western releases (I say most, because I often see some absolutely obscenely priced releases in other countries).

Certainly, I had hoped for more. I think most of us did.

Recently, I purchased a box that contained one concert on blu-ray and the concert again on CD (plus another concert on CD) - all for 11,000. Felt like a bit of a fool spending so much, but the quality of the set really made up for it and that's the hope I have for this, right now.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by LOGMAN

Nah pretty easy to disagree; 1900 for a mini-album isn't that over-priced. 8000 for a concert blu-ray in a deluxe box is fairly standard. I've paid more for about the same.

We're not dealing with a rational fan, though. This is someone who has already said they hate the music, the photos and declared the whole release a fail before any of these details were even announced. Yet she'll still spend 20,000 on it all, then when it arrives she'll barely listen to it or look at the photos and then come here to complain about how awful it all is and how mad she is at Au for making her spend so much money on something she never wanted.

This is not 10,000 for 5 songs. No one is being forced to spend that much on something they are't interested in. If someone buys this with good intentions and then finds when it arrives they are disappointed with the quality of the workmanship, the video/audio quality of the DVDs/blu-rays, then for sure they can complain about spending so much and getting a subpar item. But until, complaining about the price and contents just seems redundant.

Just looking at the pricing of the old singles...The CD+DVDs were set to 1800 yen, the CD only was 1000 yen. So I guess you are right, 1900 yen for 5 songs isn't that much considering we used to pay 1000 for 2.

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by LOGMAN

Nah pretty easy to disagree; 1900 for a mini-album isn't that over-priced. 8000 for a concert blu-ray in a deluxe box is fairly standard. I've paid more for about the same.

We're not dealing with a rational fan, though. This is someone who has already said they hate the music, the photos and declared the whole release a fail before any of these details were even announced. Yet she'll still spend 20,000 on it all, then when it arrives she'll barely listen to it or look at the photos and then come here to complain about how awful it all is and how mad she is at Au for making her spend so much money on something she never wanted.

This is not 10,000 for 5 songs. No one is being forced to spend that much on something they are't interested in. If someone buys this with good intentions and then finds when it arrives they are disappointed with the quality of the workmanship, the video/audio quality of the DVDs/blu-rays, then for sure they can complain about spending so much and getting a subpar item. But until, complaining about the price and contents just seems redundant.

I can't believe this. What is it that you think you got the right to be that mean? Calling me non-rational, as if I'm crazy and stupid.

First of all, like I already said, I have a right to my opinion, like everyone else. I also argued why I think this is overprized. And it is. A DVD only release is more expensive in comparison than a CD+DVD release. Same goes for a CD only release compared to a CD+DVD release. Because the production of two items combined costs less than having to produce them seperately, so the combined product costs less. Also DVDs don't really sell, they even sell worse than CDs, to make more profit, they are sold for more. Because if someone is willing to spend money on a DVD, they will probably buy it anyway. This is why most CD+DVD versions of CDs cost around 5000¥, sometimes 6000¥ to 7000¥, whereas DVDs or Blurays cost the same or more.
Since a lot of artists still sell their DVD versions of their albums with concerts attached, in deluxe packaging as first press, together with other first press stuff, for 5000¥ to 7000¥, it is overpriced.

I never called the release a fail before those details were announced, this is a mean lie to discredit me and you know it. I also never said I'll buy it. What I definitely will not.
The price at which some items, Ayu's included, are sold today, is in my honest opinion immoral, for reasons I don't need to discuss here, because it's not the place. But being disappointed as a fan, that Ayu decided to sell her stuff that overpriced, when there still would be enough money made if she sold it for like 6000¥-7000¥, is my right. I explained why I feel this way in detail. You have no right to respond the way you did.

The way you responded is mean and vile, you should feel ashamed that you thought sitting in front of a screen and treating another person like this would be appropriate. I demand an apology.

Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE

I don't feel personally attacked, even though I have written as well that I think this release is really expensive. But this post is clearly directed towards a certain member, and I can guess who. I just want to say, that this post has a very mean untone towards her, (calling her out as a being a not-rational fan already set that tone) which I find completely unnecessairy, especially since she never did anything to you. So, please... keep it friendly?

Thank you for your support, I really appreciate it. =)

[indigochild]

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan

I can't believe this. What is it that you think you got the right to be that mean? Calling me non-rational, as if I'm crazy and stupid.

First of all, like I already said, I have a right to my opinion, like everyone else. I also argued why I think this is overprized. And it is. A DVD only release is more expensive in comparison than a CD+DVD release. Same goes for a CD only release compared to a CD+DVD release. Because the production of two items combined costs less than having to produce them seperately, so the combined product costs less. Also DVDs don't really sell, they even sell worse than CDs, to make more profit, they are sold for more. Because if someone is willing to spend money on a DVD, they will probably buy it anyway. This is why most CD+DVD versions of CDs cost around 5000¥, sometimes 6000¥ to 7000¥, whereas DVDs or Blurays cost the same or more.
Since a lot of artists still sell their DVD versions of their albums with concerts attached, in deluxe packaging as first press, together with other first press stuff, for 5000¥ to 7000¥, it is overpriced.

I never called the release a fail before those details were announced, this is a mean lie to discredit me and you know it. I also never said I'll buy it. What I definitely will not.
The price at which some items, Ayu's included, are sold today, is in my honest opinion immoral, for reasons I don't need to discuss here, because it's not the place. But being disappointed as a fan, that Ayu decided to sell her stuff that overpriced, when there still would be enough money made if she sold it for like 6000¥-7000¥, is my right. I explained why I feel this way in detail. You have no right to respond the way you did.

The way you responded is mean and vile, you should feel ashamed that you thought sitting in front of a screen and treating another person like this would be appropriate. I demand an apology.

Of course you have a right to an opinion, but people also have a right to call out your opinion. It goes both ways. Like right now, I think you're taking this a little TOO personally especially with your last paragraph. You said in another comment if people don't like what you say to block you, yet here you are demanding an apology because you don't like what someone said about you. Just block them. It's the internet. Don't take it so seriously. You're not going to meet this person. Live your life. Move on. The fact that this is a thing for you is the very reason why a lot of people seem to take issue with you as of late. Now me? I don't give a fuck. AHS is small little corner of the internet and no one here is "my friend" nor "my enemy". But I'll call people out when the mood strikes and the opportunity arises. It's not an attack on you so don't take it personally, it's an "opinion" through observation.

[LOGMAN]

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan

I never called the release a fail before those details were announced, this is a mean lie to discredit me and you know it.

When the only the pre-order links were live and upon the reveal of the first cover:



And then 12 hours later the further details were revealed via Arama and posted here by Machiko:



I demand an apology!

[rikku1994]

Originally Posted by LOGMAN

We're not dealing with a rational fan, though. This is someone who has already said they hate the music, the photos and declared the whole release a fail before any of these details were even announced. Yet she'll still spend 20,000 on it all, then when it arrives she'll barely listen to it or look at the photos and then come here to complain about how awful it all is and how mad she is at Au for making her spend so much money on something she never wanted.

This is not 10,000 for 5 songs. No one is being forced to spend that much on something they are't interested in. If someone buys this with good intentions and then finds when it arrives they are disappointed with the quality of the workmanship, the video/audio quality of the DVDs/blu-rays, then for sure they can complain about spending so much and getting a subpar item. But until, complaining about the price and contents just seems redundant.

Drag her lmao

I love the deluxe box tho still bummed out no new MV's or more songs. Oh well it'll end up on Spotify (hopefully) so I'll just support her there (unless the DVD lives are good). Kinda wonder what other plans they have tho for Ayu's 20th.

[jbrat2219]

Such flawless covers wasted on only 5 songs...

[~angel*ayumi~]

I get the complaining about the lack of new songs, I get the complaoning about the CK "AD" (altough it doesn´t bother me that much) but I srsly don´t get the complaining about the price.
1944¥ (Mini Album, normal price) + 7,884¥ (Blu-Ray, took price from MiJ) = 9828¥
So that makes 540¥ for the Box and the goods.

[xLuna&1LOVE]

Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~

I get the complaining about the lack of new songs, I get the complaoning about the CK "AD" (altough it doesn´t bother me that much) but I srsly don´t get the complaining about the price.
1944¥ (Mini Album, normal price) + 7,884¥ (Blu-Ray, took price from MiJ) = 9828¥
So that makes 540¥ for the Box and the goods.

Because... that is about 60 euro for a Blu-Ray? Idk, I think that is pricy.
I could understand that DVDs cost more than CDs, but these ones are at another level. Especially... considering that you would probably watch it 3-4 times, to be optimistically.

Wait... that is good to mention.. The theme: #metoo movement???????
Someone who has power used to harass ayu sexually???? Look at that expensive watch.. it symbolizes the guy is wealthy and grab her boobs (deluxe cover) and she pretends she is ok (smile cover) but in deep she is not (serious half face cover)???

If this is theme, it makes sense why We are the QUEENS is in the track list.

Most likely she shot this, got through all the pics and picked out where she looked great, including this one. Who knows.. maybe it will end up in something conceptual like this, but I believe she just wanna look pretty and badass.

[roxaskh2fm]

Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE

Because... that is about 60 euro for a Blu-Ray? Idk, I think that is pricy.
I could understand that DVDs cost more than CDs, but these ones are at another level. Especially... considering that you would probably watch it 3-4 times, to be optimistically.

I think i have watched my PoM DVD over 30 times til now. I really really watch her concerts very often.

That's why i'm a little mad about this realease. I don't need the goodies and boxes and 2 versions of the mini. I just want the concerts!!! XD

[KittyKathy]

Her face on the Deluxe version is very disturbing. I don't know what to think.

[Chris_Duvall]

Could anyone tell me, if there is a different version for TeamAyu members?
I've been thinking about joining for quite some time now and a special TeamAyu package of the new (mini-) Album would be very nice.