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Old 10th August 2018, 08:12 AM
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I am sure there is a meaning for the reversed track list order.... Yet everything is so mysterious... I don't know what to think anymore lol
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Old 10th August 2018, 08:30 AM
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Maybe ayu just can't choose between two covers? She needs to have a reason to release two CD separately. I hope one day we'll see her explanation. Maybe at Music fair?
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Old 10th August 2018, 10:21 AM
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But it's not impossible to release two same CDs with the same cover, so if she just couldn't choose between the two then, even if it's not allowed to sell them in separate listings (Jacket A and Jacket B) she could do like A BALLADS / A BEST / Love Songs: include it randomly.

Has she ever had different jacket versions of a single which had the exact same tracklist btw?
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Old 10th August 2018, 10:22 AM
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Has she ever had different jacket versions of a single which had the exact same tracklist btw?
the singles A and H have multiple covers and the same track list, but to my recollection the multiple covers were released after the official release dates of the respective singles i.e. in commemoration.

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A doesn't have multiple covers; but differently-coloured discs. Source: https://ayumi.primenova.com/cdscans.php
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Old 10th August 2018, 01:17 PM
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the singles A and H have multiple covers and the same track list, but to my recollection the multiple covers were released after the official release dates of the respective singles i.e. in commemoration.

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A doesn't have multiple covers; but differently-coloured discs. Source: https://ayumi.primenova.com/cdscans.php
The A covers were also colored I think?

As for }{, there were 4 different covers released - part of what contributed to it being the only million seller single that year. After it hit a million, they released the commemorative digipack version that had all 4 covers.
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Old 10th August 2018, 10:37 AM
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But it's not impossible to release two same CDs with the same cover, so if she just couldn't choose between the two then, even if it's not allowed to sell them in separate listings (Jacket A and Jacket B) she could do like A BALLADS / A BEST / Love Songs: include it randomly.

Has she ever had different jacket versions of a single which had the exact same tracklist btw?

The CD Code on the disc has to follow the one printed on the label (AVCD____).
Since a different CD is to be pressed they might as well use a different tracklist just so that buying 2 versions feel less like a scam.
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Old 10th August 2018, 10:37 AM
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TROUBLE Tower Records Original Gift

「æternal」lyric postcard (1 of 7 designs)



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Old 10th August 2018, 11:53 AM
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The jacket A is pessimistic and the jacket B is optimistic, basically... Both the covers and the tracklists.
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Old 10th August 2018, 01:48 PM
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TROUBLE mu-mo Limited edition will contain AR photo frame

How to use it:
1. Install "CP Clicker"
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/rico...488018260?mt=8
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....clicker&hl=ja

2. Launch it and hold it over the photocard. Target the A logo on the back of this card and "click" (tap).

▽ Original Photo Frame Images


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Spotify plays from TROUBLE til now:

We are the QUEENS 7.092
aeternal 14.862
WORDS 7.960
W 8.061
The way I am 7.989

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I really think that these numbers are good for the platform. Some songs from Love again, Party Queen or R'n'RC never reached 10k.
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So are we ready to bet that the additional AWA "surprise" is going to be an album with the reverse playlist? LOL.
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Old 10th August 2018, 07:50 PM
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So are we ready to bet that the additional AWA "surprise" is going to be an album with the reverse playlist? LOL.
why did I think the exact same thing


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and I agree I don't think it's a mistake but a conscious decision to convey different feelings
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I find that interesting that the happy cover has The way I am as the first song...
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I find that interesting that the happy cover has The way I am as the first song...
I just listened to the EP in both orders. The EP's feeling is completely different
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^To me, the first one sounds lighter, mellower, even if the ending is sadder.

The 2nd order sounds heavier and darker and more agressive somehow.

I like how she it's done in a way it shows is determined to go on in the end of both tracklists.
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Old 10th August 2018, 08:40 PM
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^To me, the first one sounds lighter, mellower, even if the ending is sadder.

The 2nd order sounds heavier and darker and more agressive somehow.

I like how she it's done in a way it shows is determined to go on in the end of both tracklists.
I just listened to the reverse order while re-reading the lyrics and I agree.

How I see it-
Jacket A: starting with We are the Queens feels like she has her guard up while ending with The way I am shows a growth towards the acceptance that some will abandon her but she will always be here for them.

And with the contrast of jacket B: she starts off with this soft and a bit vulnerable persona, which by the end evolves to become stronger and aggressive.

The determination theme that you mentioned is definitely there and it's very interesting to see the two different ways she created to show it.
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Old 11th August 2018, 08:32 AM
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I totally appreciate what she's doing with the two reversed tracklists. I just don't think it justifies two seperate versions.
She should have done it on streaming sites (maybe it will be ) and for the mu-mo versions.
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Old 11th August 2018, 05:01 PM
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I totally appreciate what she's doing with the two reversed tracklists. I just don't think it justifies two seperate versions.
She should have done it on streaming sites (maybe it will be ) and for the mu-mo versions.
With the two versions she will make collectors happy by having more stuff to collect while other people can buy one version and stream the other.
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Old 11th August 2018, 02:38 PM
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Apparently you can get the album on iTunes already here in Japan.
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Old 10th August 2018, 08:21 PM
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I ought to give "TROUBLE" a reversed tracklist listening as well
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