[2006] Black Cherry vs. Secret (oh yes, I went there!)

[PSYCHEDELICOdust]

If there's a BEST for her in 2007, that'll be her peak. I feel it coming. That and I don't want to have her singles this year setting the tone for a new original album D:

[ayu_fan929]

^True. I think I'd rather have her release a BEST now, then in late 2007/2008. imo, this year's Ai singles is just lacking something compared to 2005.

[Mad_Cactuar]

^ Same here, her singles of 2006 are quite different from the 2005 ones. Her music has been less dramatic, less memorable (still very memorable though) from the earlier singles, Yumekui excepted. But the simplicity works for me in songs like Ren'ai Shashin.

[Yarumi]

well, I was really looking foward to Black Cherry.. I have been in a Koda phase lately... well during her second session... and Juicy... but the last singles have just been okay... and the album is certainly not something I'd buy unfortunately... I do like a few songs on there... but the majority is iPOD skippage material. I know I have been a major Ayumi fan forever but I really do feel that Secret is way better. It has a nice rock sond but variety... Black Cherry is covered with ballads and although some of her ballads are quite lovely... some are just stale.

Koda may sell more than Ayumi because the sexy style is really in right now... but as far as quality... Ayumi's got that one in my book.

[drahcirpiy]

secret all the way for me lol...black cherry's covers r awesome and beautiful...but the album songs rn't tat great...and i never really liked WON'T BE LONG and it had 2 version in the album lol

secret however, i thought had really good album songs and the flow was really good

[atomicguy]

Secret

Kumi needs to learn how to make fresh original music, you can sing almost every other song on the intrumental of another one, i used to love her, but shes so repetitive, and i think ayu went there but she came with this amazing album

Kiss O' Kill probably kills anything Koda ever recorded aside from D.D.D (it's her only tune i think it's really original but its sounds a LOT like Lady Marmalade)

[WillofDusk]

ayu really show her talent again in Secret by writing and singing in only 2 month to complete a whole Secret album.She deserve a real artist award.
Koda should learn more to become a real artist who sings and sings with their real talent . For now, Koda's sucess is equal promotion and sexiness type

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by mizu_akira_ayu

Koda should learn more to become a real artist who sings and sings with their real talent . For now, Koda's sucess is equal promotion and sexiness type

No. Not really.

[ImpactBreaker]

I LOVE both albums. Unlike most people, I think both albums are very unoriginal to begin with , but I don't care, the songs are catchy and it didn't take much time to get into most of them (exception for KK 4 HOT WAVE single songs, but I like them all now).

Originally Posted by mizu_akira_ayu

ayu really show her talent again in Secret by writing and singing in only 2 month to complete a whole Secret album.She deserve a real artist award.
Koda should learn more to become a real artist who sings and sings with their real talent . For now, Koda's sucess is equal promotion and sexiness type

By the rate koda kumi has been releasing stuff, I'd say she's the one to beat that record, not ayu (popping out several stuff in a short ammount of time). I believe most songs had already been made by ayu. C'mon there was a long break between the BLUE BIRD single release and Secret, she was definitely producing songs at that time (I don't believe the few weeks bull). Some of the songs were even made way before Startin'/Born To Be... was released (It Was, which was supposed to be in (miss)understood), and just got refined.

[WillofDusk]

oh?
How do ya know it was was made before startin'/borntobe?
Team Ayu really has announced about the changing of mini to full album.
Even it was made already, recording and checkin on each songs really needs time and hard working.and so as filming the two PV 1LOVE and momentum at the time, you should know it already,1LOVE was made just less than 1 month before the release day and we just accidentally know it, I believe Ayu really has to work on those new release song very hard.That's why I chose Secret
This also the first time I see an album that go with a drama, whole promotional tricks.
It's time I'm outta here,I always the starter of many fight in other forum (hoho) sorry if I had alread started one/

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by mizu_akira_ayu

oh?
How do ya know it was was made before startin'/borntobe?

ayu said that on her official description about "It Was"

It's time I'm outta here,I always the starter of many fight in other forum (hoho) sorry if I had alread started one/

LOL don't worry, I don't consider this a fight, it is just a discussion.

[Mad_Cactuar]

Since she beat ULTRA BLUE's first week by a small margin, I predict an 830,000 overall sales.

[kiseki89]

After listening to both... Black Cherry has some great ballads but with Koda's voice... no offence, it's not my taste.
Secret is better [my preferred voice sense] and the songs are great too, no hate song for me, even my not so favoured until the Day... is growing on me.
Whereas koda's album, I only like at most 5 songs and that's when i ignore her voice

[shadow*puppet]

well, I'm always up for a debate... it's always nice to test out your opinions against other people's

but honestly, it strikes me as a bit sad that it is when koda has finally come into her own and been recognized as an artist of her own making, that's when people compare her endlessly to ayu, even her fans... why does she always have to be in the shadow of ayu or hikki? why does her identity have to be constantly linked to that of someone else? her similarity with the previous "queens" is really only superficial at best...

it would be nice if koda's music would be debated on for itself and by itself, without finding its value only through comparison with other artists...

that said, secret is better

[..:Hot:Like:Wow:..]

Human Nature.

[Kodayumi]

Originally Posted by Kingofpop

Human Nature.

LOL haha

[Mirai Noah]

I voted for Secret, because I like more tracks on it than I do on Black Cherry.

[ayu_fan929]

^Well the "extras" in Otsuka's singles are the PVs since they only appear on the single CD+DVD and not on the album.

[Kagome-chan]

Secret..Secret..Secret

I don't like black Cherry

[tenshi no hane]

I like all the tracks on Secret and only a few on Black Cherry, so I chose Secret