[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~Party Queen~ III

[inspire_rmx]

Ayu need another hit single imo. i really hope party queen sales is the lowest point for Ayu (just like Style for Namie) and we can start anticipating a comeback from Ayu! finger crossed

[jang-kun]

Originally Posted by inspire_rmx

Ayu need another hit single imo. i really hope party queen sales is the lowest point for Ayu (just like Style for Namie) and we can start anticipating a comeback from Ayu! finger crossed

if ASB can counter the sales dip, then there's still hope. ayu's ace as of now imo is Y&M and the ToX song. Those two should be EPIC and in a grander scale, something that is released like 12 years ago. Then, we could expect gamers to follow Ayu too, maybe?

[spanishfan]

maybe these (almost) 2 years without singles will boost her next single's sales?

[ayu_ready?]

^ it can have opposite effect too.
avex might think no singles might result in big album sales? crazy

[ayumisrael]

I think that if she releases some singles for an album there are 2 options:
1. There would be a hit/semi-hit and it would help the album to be more popular than what it would be without it to the audience.
2. Maybe even with no hits but multiple singles for an album it still arouse interest more than no singles at all due to tie-ins (even not popular ones) and the single songs are the most recognised or arouse interest in the public.

That's why I think kuu's JAPONESQUE sold a few thousands more than Party Queen (because JAPONESQUE had 3 singles with 6 single songs on it).

Had ayu release at least 1 double a-side physical single I think it could do some more 10,000s with just a decent tie-in.

Maybe if progress would be a single or there would be another single for FIVE it could sell around 250,000 too.
Singles or single songs give more interest towards the general public (even if it's minor) and fans to look at an album.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

I think that if she releases some singles for an album there are 2 options:
1. There would be a hit/semi-hit and it would help the album to be more popular than what it would be without it to the audience.
2. Maybe even with no hits but multiple singles for an album it still arouse interest more than no singles at all due to tie-ins (even not popular ones) and the single songs are the most recognised or arouse interest in the public.

That's why I think kuu's JAPONESQUE sold a few thousands more than Party Queen (because JAPONESQUE had 3 singles with 6 single songs on it).

Had ayu release at least 1 double a-side physical single I think it could do some more 10,000s with just a decent tie-in.

Maybe if progress would be a single or there would be another single for FIVE it could sell around 250,000 too.
Singles or single songs give more interest towards the general public (even if it's minor) and fans to look at an album.

People are focusing too much on the physical release of a single and ignoring that in the end, is the PV, the lives, the CMs, etc that make the song a hit, not the fact that it was released on a physical copy or not...

And both FIVE and Party Queen promotional songs had PVs, were sent to radios and had tie-ins... Her digital singles even get covers, so it's possible to have some print promotion! The only missing thing was the TV lives...

[AwakenedPRO]

Namie's cd reached 272,037 now. Almost outsold Ayumi's "Love Songs" cd. Anyway, I hope it will break the 300,000 mark by the end of the week!

About "Party Queen's" sales and Ayu's overall... Nothing is over! #2 on the chart and a gold certification is still success. Extremely dropped compared to previous works but still ok. There are worse falls like Mai Kuraki, Ai Otsuka etc...

[TeamAyu2004]

I wonder what made the single 60s70s80s so big for namie??
I mean he album before that was so low and then BAM!
I think the single and the Best album brought her back into the spot light.

Was there a lot of promotion for the single and album??
I think Ayumi's team could take a few notes on that.

[ExodusUK]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

I wonder what made the single 60s70s80s so big for namie??
I mean he album before that was so low and then BAM!
I think the single and the Best album brought her back into the spot light.

Was there a lot of promotion for the single and album??
I think Ayumi's team could take a few notes on that.

It was the VS tie-in, there was so much promotion..CMs, billboards and even dolls for each PV.

[Rocky Raven]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

I wonder what made the single 60s70s80s so big for namie??
I mean he album before that was so low and then BAM!
I think the single and the Best album brought her back into the spot light.

Was there a lot of promotion for the single and album??
I think Ayumi's team could take a few notes on that.

Actually the BAM u mentioned had been coming firstly & quietly since 'Queen of Hip Pop'(2005), with Pink Panther as the album art theme, it was her most commercially successful effort in five years before Play was released.

Later it came a little bigger with single 'Baby Don't Cry' & then album 'PLAY'(2007). Plus 'PLAY' sales(541k) at that time weren't low at all.
So after 'PLAY', everything officially started.

I mean, it's not like her peak came out of nowhere, it did need time and a fine catalyst for long-tearm success

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Rocky Raven

Actually the BAM u mentioned had been coming firstly & quietly since 'Queen of Hip Pop'(2005), with Pink Panther as the album art theme, it was her most commercially successful effort in five years before Play was released.

Later it came a little bigger with single 'Baby Don't Cry' & then album 'PLAY'(2007). Plus 'PLAY' sales(541k) at that time weren't low at all.
So after 'PLAY', everything officially started.

I mean, it's not like her peak came out of nowhere, it did need time and a fine catalyst for long-tearm success

Yeap.. Namie's 2nd peak was showing for a while before Best Fiction... But most western people who were jpop fans in the 2000s didn't really now about her, most who knew about her just thought she was some has-been 90s singer, theyweren't following her moves and didn't pay attention until not paying attention was impossible^^

[Yumsushi]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Yeap.. Namie's 2nd peak was showing for a while before Best Fiction... But most western people who were jpop fans in the 2000s didn't really now about her, most who knew about her just thought she was some has-been 90s singer, theyweren't following her moves and didn't pay attention until not paying attention was impossible^^

I'm not sure what you're saying but how are you speaking for all Western Jpop fans? And even if what you're saying is true, that doesn't change the fact that her second coming began with Queen of HipPop. I mean Mr Children is a huge band in Japan and I personally have chosen to ignore their existence in my 10 yrs plus of J-fandom. That doesn't change the fact that they've always been popular.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Yumsushi

I'm not sure what you're saying but how are you speaking for all Western Jpop fans? And even if what you're saying is true, that doesn't change the fact that her second coming began with Queen of HipPop. I mean Mr Children is a huge band in Japan and I personally have chosen to ignore their existence in my 10 yrs plus of J-fandom. That doesn't change the fact that they've always been popular.

I'm explaining why a lot of the western jpop fans believe Namie's comeback came out of nowhere during Best Fiction: Because most of them weren't paying attention to her before it.

But, as I also stated, she was growing bigger for a while when the best actually happened...

[ayu_ready?]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

I wonder what made the single 60s70s80s so big for namie??
I mean he album before that was so low and then BAM!
I think the single and the Best album brought her back into the spot light.

Was there a lot of promotion for the single and album??
I think Ayumi's team could take a few notes on that.

I have to disagree with this. the boom was not sudden and Namie's second peak is all the result of her hard work, effort, commitment and management & promotion team. also. she did change her composers at the time.

60s70s80s is a great single, with 3 different PVs, quite good, WHAT A FELLING is a super hit song, and New Look was really well-recieved by the Japanese, they really like the song

bringing the topic of JAPONESQUE, it sold without any promo included, fyi, if Kuu didn't get sick because of her pregnancy & cancelled it all it might have sold even more

[mizuki-7]

60'70'80' has been heavily promoted for sure a lot of live where she was singing the three songs etc... + promotion vidal sassoon + a lot of promotion pics in tokyo etc... great great promo ^^

[TeamAyu2004]

See, ayumi needs to do something like that.
Have A Best 3 with 3 new songs and promo out of the ***.
I want so much promo that I want to slap her and say NO.

[brener]

I'm so happy for namies sales and rly think ayu could boost her sales with great promo!!

[Andrenekoi]

^If changing the game was as easy as people over here thinks, people like Seiko Matsuda would still sell millions...

[TeamAyu2004]

^ It may also have to do with the fact of if she wants to or not.
I think Sekio has gotten to the point that she releases music because this is what she loves to do.

[ayu_ready?]

Namie's sales keep on burning~
1st Week Sales: 292,098
Total now: 304,488
if she hits 350K+ this week I'll be OMG