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Old 14th December 2004, 02:29 AM
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Daybreak is an album-cut single. If low sales relative to other singles released around it's time is your reasoning to calling it a failure, then call all her other album-cut singles failures. The preluding and following single after the previous album-cuts have all sold large sums.

SEASONS 06/00 1,367,400 1 21
SURREAL 09/00 417,210 - Album Cut
AUDIENCE* 11/00 292,950 - Album Cut
M 12/00 1,319,070

Boys & Girls 07/99 1,037,950 1 17
A 08/99 1,630,540 1 18
appears* 11/99 290,550 - Album Cut
kanariya* 12/99 289,200 - Album Cut
Fly high * 02/00 299,540 Album Cut
vogue 04/00 767,660

And where is that figure of 'Free & Easy' from? If you have access to sales figure of something more recent, please provide at least an up-to-date sales figure of Daybreak to back up your argument. One minute you decide to quote your stats from Hamasaki Republic, the next you take it your stats from elsewhere with higher values for other releases.

Hamasaki Republic

Call it a failure if you want, but it's perceptions like these where tabilod articles like "Hamasaki falls", "Hamasaki looses popularity", "Hamasaki drops crown to BoA" sprouts from when her sales are still relatively high to other artists.
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Old 14th December 2004, 11:09 AM
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M 12/00 1,579,970
evolution 01/01 1,087,690
NEVER EVER 03/01 802,580
Endless sorrow 05/01 826,010
UNITE! 07/01 656,030
Dearest 09/01 859,270
Daybreak 03/02 194,610

Free & Easy 04/02 541,130

when you compare the singles from i am album, m and evolution sold over 1 million each. dearest, the single before daybreak, sold over 800000. then a few months later, daybreak comes along and sold less than 200000. then the single after, free & easym sold over halk a million. so how can daybreak not be classified a failure?
An album cut single is a single released after an album has been released am I correct? If so...Daybreak's sales cannot be compared to those of all the singles on I am...?
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Old 14th December 2004, 12:44 PM
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Daybreak is an album-cut single. If low sales relative to other singles released around it's time is your reasoning to calling it a failure, then call all her other album-cut singles failures. The preluding and following single after the previous album-cuts have all sold large sums.

SEASONS 06/00 1,367,400 1 21
SURREAL 09/00 417,210 - Album Cut
AUDIENCE* 11/00 292,950 - Album Cut
M 12/00 1,319,070

Boys & Girls 07/99 1,037,950 1 17
A 08/99 1,630,540 1 18
appears* 11/99 290,550 - Album Cut
kanariya* 12/99 289,200 - Album Cut
Fly high * 02/00 299,540 Album Cut
vogue 04/00 767,660
kanariya, fly high, appears and audience are limited to 300,000 copies. hence it only sold as much as there are enough copies available. but daybreak hasnt even reached 300,000. so your argument cant even stand.

and i believe my figures are recent. they are the collaborative efforts of this forum in the thread 'the ultimate sales thread' which i started.

i dont see why you are getting so mad. you have to be rational and stop protecting ayu all the time.

here's the data in the ultimate sales thread, in case you are too lazy to dig it up.

singles

poker face 04/98 43,150
YOU 06/98 78,260
Trust 08/98 181,820
For My Dear... 10/98 74,440
Depend on you 12/98 131,460
WHATEVER 02/99 189,610
LOVE ~Destiny~ 04/99 648,340
TO BE 05/99 324,500
Boys & Girls 07/99 1,037,950
A 08/99 1,630,540
appears* 11/99 290,550
kanariya* 12/99 289,200
Fly high * 02/00 299,540
vogue 04/00 788,350
Far away 05/00 510,460
SEASONS 06/00 1,505,040
SURREAL 09/00 502,830
AUDIENCE* 11/00 292,950
M 12/00 1,579,970
evolution 01/01 1,087,690
NEVER EVER 03/01 802,580
Endless sorrow 05/01 826,010
UNITE! 07/01 656,030
Dearest 09/01 859,270
Daybreak * 03/02 194,610
Free & Easy 04/02 541,130
H 07/02 994,480
Voyage 09/02 695,930
& 7/03 616,100
Forgiveness 9/03 252,400
no way to say 11/03 382,000
moments 3/04 301,843
inspire 7/04 329,145
carols 9/04 301,275

ORIGINAL ALBUMS
A Song for XX 01/99 1,451,910
LOVEppears 11/99 2,562,130
Duty 09/00 2,904,420
A BEST 03/01 4,281,620
I am... 01/02 2,424,710
RAINBOW 12/02 1,716,360
A ballads 03/03 912,600
memorial address 12/03 1,220,000

REMIX SINGLES
the other side ONE: Hex Hector* 12/00 9,660
the other side TWO: Junior Vasquez* 01/01 54,380
the other side THREE: Thunderpuss/Soul Solution* 01/01 49,530
the other side FOUR: System F/Vincent De Moor* 01/01 53,840
poker face (re-issue) 02/01 23,570
YOU (re-issue) 02/01 36,230
Trust (re-issue) 02/01 24,470
For My Dear... (re-issue) 02/01 22,270
Depend on you (re-issue) 02/01 28,450
WHATEVER (re-issue) 02/01 27,560
LOVE ~Destiny~ (re-issue) 02/01 39,080
TO BE (re-issue) 02/01 28,850
excerpts from ayu-mi-x III: 001* 11/01 20,560
excerpts from ayu-mi-x III: 002* 12/01 17,810
excerpts from ayu-mi-x III: 003* 12/01 17,350
excerpts from ayu-mi-x III: 004* 12/01 17,180
excerpts from ayu-mi-x III: 005* 12/01 15,650
excerpts from ayu-mi-x III: 006* 12/01 16,010


REMIX ALBUMS

ayu-mi-x 03/99 385,680
SUPER EUROBEAT presents ayu-ro mix 02/00 724,990
ayu-mi-x II version US+EU 03/00 276,870
ayu-mi-x II version Acoustic Orchestra 03/00 200,750
ayu-mi-x II version JPN 03/00 162,990
ayu-mi-x II version Non-Stop Mega Mix 03/00 505,410
ayu-mi-x III Non-Stop Mega Mix Version 02/01 314,040
ayu-mi-x III Acoustic Orchestra Version 02/01 183,760
Cyber TRANCE presents ayu trance 09/01 386,270
SUPER EUROBEAT presents ayu-ro mix 2 09/01 445,760
ayu-mi-x 4 + selection Non-Stop Mega Mix Version 03/02 210,310
ayu-mi-x 4 + selection Acoustic Orchestra Version 03/02 96,160
Cyber TRANCE presents ayu trance 2 09/02 278,320
Rmx works ayu-ro mix 3 09/03 ???? (250,000 combined)
Rmx works ayu-mi-x V Non-Stop Mega Mix Version 09/04 ???? (250,000 combined)
Rmx works cyber trance 3 09/03 ???? (250,000 combined)


a song is born 12/01 441,410

ayumi hamasaki COMPLETE LIVE BOX A: 87,500
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Old 14th December 2004, 12:48 PM
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One minute you decide to quote your stats from Hamasaki Republic, the next you take it your stats from elsewhere with higher values for other releases.

the figures for the other releases are higher than hamasaki republic because they are more recent, as you demanded me to show!!!

one minute you criticise my data for not being recent, the next you criticise them for being too recent.

k, it is nothing personal, i am just expressing my opinion that daybreak is a failure and i have figures to back my claim.
& sorry for hijacking the thread

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Old 14th December 2004, 12:56 PM
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ok, ovbiously you two ARENT gonna see each others' way, so can we say the sales of Daybreak, whether they did good or bad, is an opinion? Even though compared to other singles its lower, to some people selling over 100,000 copies is still a feat in itself.

So quit arguing. Please?
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Old 14th December 2004, 02:58 PM
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It is a remix single after all, so that would have naturally prevented it from selling much. And given it's a remix of an album cut, it would naturally sell low - defining whether it's a success or a failure would depend on what you originally expected of it, I guess.

So chill, Kev and extepan.

m-a-z-e: Yes. Technically, it can't be compared, because it's a remix of lower quality than the original version, and it's just a cheap way for Avex to make more money off Ayu's name.
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Old 15th December 2004, 03:02 AM
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So quit arguing. Please?
ok kristen, since you are so nice, i will listen to you
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Old 15th December 2004, 03:12 AM
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singles:
forgiveness

albums:
a song for xx
duty
A BEST
I am...
Rainbow
Memorial Address
A BALLADS

remixes:
Ayu-ro mix 3
Ayu-mi-x 5
Ayu-trance 3

and 3 posters...
the RAINBOW one, A one where she is sitting on a big speaker and theresa pink heart chair, and one where she has the cooolest guitar ever.
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Old 18th December 2004, 07:24 AM
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Here are some pics I will take more pics of the rest later. And im still waiting for Cd's and Dvds to come. I Removed all Obis and put them in a safe folder.


Koda Kumi




Utada


Namie Amuro




Hitomi Shimatani ,Boa ,Mika Nakashima ,Aile ,Xbs ,Luna Sea,Kokia ,Dabo ,Every Little thing, Hi-D, S-word,


Lee Soo Young, Def Jam,Max,Hitomi Shimatani


Move ,Morning Musume ,Heartdales ,Hitomi Shimatani ,M-flo Love Boa ,
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Every Little Thing,Do As Infinity, and Dream cards



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Old 18th December 2004, 08:12 AM
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Edit:the Pics are to big for attachments, I'll post them later...
Sorry my pictures are all smushed together..><

1.Do As Infinity-Gates of Heaven [not pictured]
2.Do As Infinity-Shinjitsu no Uta
3.Do As Infinity-Do the Best
4.Ayumi Hamasaki-A Ballads
5.Ayumi Hamasaki-Concert Tour 2000 B DVD+OBI
6.Ayumi Hamasaki-Memorial Address [Not Pictured]
7.Every Little Thing-Many Pieces 2003 Tour DVD
8.Every Little Thing-Every Best Single 2 CD+VCD [Not Pictured]
9.Every Little Thing-Time to Destination
10.Ai Otsuka-Kingyo Hanabi CD+DVD+OBI
11.Ai Otsuka-LOVE JAM CD+picture book+OBI
12.Ai Otsuka-LOVE PUNCH CD+DVD+OBI
13.Utada Hikaru-Deep River [Not Pictured]
14.Namie Amuro-think of me/no more tears [Not Pictured]
15.the brilliant green-the Winter Album+OBI
16.Aikawa Nanase-R-Shitei+OBI
17.Mika Nakashima-LEGEND (1st Pressing)+OBI
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CDs/DVDs for X-mas (already saw and touched Yesasia package!!!)

18.Mika Nakashima-LOVE FINAL 2004 Concert DVD
19.Do As Infinity-DEEP FOREST 2001 Concert DVD
20.Yaida "YAIKO" Hitomi-Air/Cook/Sky
21.Chihiro Onitsuka-the Ultimate Collection
22.Every Little Thing-commonplace (from girlfriend )

I'm also going CD shopping this Tuesday in LA.

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Old 18th December 2004, 11:56 AM
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i was like wow at those who posted those long long lists great collection tho it does costs alot of money from time to time i hope i will make up to a Ayu fan but currently i've only got S.H.E CDs
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Omg everyone has waaay more than me. It's kinda hard to get CDs here since my parents don't trust the internet with credit cards. xDD All I have is Rainbow. T__T
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Old 18th December 2004, 01:58 PM
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Akurei? Is this an real autograph on you RAINBOW poster?
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Old 18th December 2004, 11:47 PM
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Akurei? Is this an real autograph on you RAINBOW poster?
Nope it's not, Akurei mentioned it earlier in the thread. I thought it was real at first too ^^;;

and OMG SASAI WHERE DID YOU GET THE CAROLS POSTER!! They have it on eBay for FORTY FIVE DOLLARS!!! *thud*
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Old 19th December 2004, 06:30 PM
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Calendar 2005
The Other Side "ONE"
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3 Concert Tour 2000 Vinyls (very rare)
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The back of vogue Vinyl with Real hand signed Ayu Autograph! *g*[/quote]
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Haha Angel that's funny
Wah I'm so excited for my vinyl to arrive alternatively for getting it on christmas eve
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I don't have pictures of the rest of my collection. :3
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I got some more stuff I will post more Pics soon
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