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Old 10th April 2007, 06:44 PM
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Which is exactly why we shouldn't make this a huge deal...

First of all, if you've seen the video, Eason only said it in a non-arrogant tone.
It's how the news media manipulated it, that made us feel the way we are now.

So please, if you guys just think about it, flaming him and all will only damage Ayu's reputation, not heal it.

Think optimistically, we all know that Ayu rarely lip-sync, and no matter what other people say, it will not disrupt our love for Ayu's music.
Nice sensible thoughtfulness.
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Old 10th April 2007, 06:34 PM
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I gues there's no point continuing this thread. Lols~
Whether there will be a public apology or not, it's purely up to EC...
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Old 10th April 2007, 07:04 PM
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what's the big deal?
lyp-synchned or not...
I don't care at all
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Old 10th April 2007, 07:27 PM
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Just saw easons record label website and it seems like eason, jade kwan, Jill, etc are from the same company. I guess the company got them the tickets?

http://www.eolasia.com/

Theres a thread at jpm asking ppl to send in their complaints here:
eolasia@gdeasia.com

so for those of you that would like to complain to the company can do that. Im writing it now

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[大公報4/11]Eason遭步姐迷轟表現平靜

由陳奕迅(Eason)與楊千嬅主演的電影《阿妙的十年》正式改名為《每當變幻時》,他們昨日並到主景聯和 墟舊街市拍攝。日本天后濱崎步日前在紅館舉行演唱會,Eason公言懷疑她「咪嘴」,雖然不只他一人懷疑, 但只有他一人夠膽說出來,以致他在網上備受網民抨擊兼聲言罷買其唱片,昨日提及此事時,他表現平靜道:「當 日我也有說她是一個聲色藝俱全的歌手,其他事我不想再回應,不想是非愈搞愈大。」 千嬅:不會咪嘴千嬅當日亦有去欣賞步姐演出,她則表示看得很精彩也很開心,不用太斟酌,總之是值回票價。而 十月千嬅也會舉行演唱會,屆時亦會勁歌熱舞,但看完步姐一邊跳熱舞一邊唱勁歌,也替步姐覺得難,所以拍完《 每》片後,她決定全身投入練氣。問她可會「咪嘴」?她道:「當然不會,都說拍完戲就練氣,否則也不用練啦! 」
Eason and Mariam yeung was filming outdoor for a movie. Regarding about the incident about eason suspecting ayu lipsyncing in her concert, which caused alot of net ppl refusing to by his records. When eason was asked about the incident, he responded: that day I said she was a demeanor skill complete singer, other matters I do not want again to respond, I dont want to expand the matter.

Mariam yeung: who doesnt lip sync, went to ayus concert said the show was specticular and she was very happy, worth the money. In October, she will also have a concert, with hot dancing and singing. After watching ayu hot dancing and singing, she thinks what ayu did is difficult. Mariam also said, after filming the movie, she will completely go train breath/air. (I guess go get trained how to control and build up air while singing and dancing, etc) when she was asked if she would lip sync, she responded : ofcourse not, I will go to training and if I will lip sync what is the point of training and practicing?!

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Old 10th April 2007, 07:49 PM
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Eason can go screw himself... fobby old man trying to gain some publicity for himself. *snooooze*
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Old 10th April 2007, 08:12 PM
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On the radio this morning, this incident was mentioned. The show was called: 茶小? fast news, the host:茶小? who also went to the concert, (the tv news spotted her attend and showed her leaving) mentioned: the ayu drunk showing bra incident, and also mentioned about eason accusing ayu lip sync incident.

She said: Earlier eason, after attending Japan queen ayumi hamasakis HK concert, he openly told the media he suspected ayu to lip sync 1/3 of the concert. This incident caused 90% of ayu fans in HK very angry and together they are not going to buy his albums till he publically apologizes to ayu, and also wants ayus record company to sue him. (Host comments: she doubt the company would. usually record companies will not do that unless its a big issue) After that she said easons manager said eason always say things very straight forward. he will not apologize (I dont know if he is refering to the manager himself or eason) (Host comments: lip synching or not, no one knows for sure. Even though he is not the only one of accusing her of lip sync, he was the only one to accuse her so openly to the media. That was not a smart move when he doesnt have any evidence. Only spectulating. For sensitive issue like this, its better not to say stuff like that and should keep it to yourself, especially something like this where you cant prove she did or not, and if she didnt he could get a lot of trouble from her record company.)

My opinion, if he continues to talk before thinking, its just the matter of time till he gets in crap from another record company. This is not the first time he critized a artist. I also agreed it wasnt a smart thing to do. Smart thing is what mariam yeung did. Dont get involved! stupid old fart grasshoppers

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Old 10th April 2007, 08:36 PM
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On the radio this morning, this incident was mentioned. The show was called: 茶小? fast news, the host:茶小? who also went to the concert, (the tv news spotted her attend and showed her leaving) mentioned: the ayu drunk showing bra incident, and also mentioned about eason accusing ayu lip sync incident.

She said: Earlier eason, after attending Japan queen ayumi hamasakis HK concert, he openly told the media he suspected ayu to lip sync 1/3 of the concert. This incident caused 90% of ayu fans in HK very angry and together they are not going to buy his albums till he publically apologizes to ayu, and also wants ayus record company to sue him. (Host comments: she doubt the company would. usually record companies will not do that unless its a big issue) After that she said easons manager said eason always say things very straight forward. he will not apologize (I dont know if he is refering to the manager himself or eason) (Host comments: lip synching or not, no one knows for sure. Even though he is not the only one of accusing her of lip sync, he was the only one to accuse her so openly to the media. That was not a smart move when he doesnt have any evidence. Only spectulating. For sensitive issue like this, its better not to say stuff like that and should keep it to yourself, especially something like this where you cant prove she did or not, and if she didnt he could get a lot of trouble from her record company.)

My opinion, if he continues to talk before thinking, its just the matter of time till he gets in crap from another record company. This is not the first time he critized a artist. I also agreed it wasnt a smart thing to do. Smart thing is what mariam yeung did. Dont get involved! stupid old fart grasshoppers

Is this the radio show your talking about? I think they are mention somthing about Ayu and Eason in it...
http://download.yousendit.com/28ED08735A1BF325
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NNG3E56O
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Old 10th April 2007, 08:02 PM
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I always liked Miriam and she's very classy. She's not like Eason, she speaks the truth and is always fun to watch her perform. I'm glad she didn't resort to Eason's level.

And I think it's great that so many HK fans are not buying Eason's CDs anymore. It is encouraging for Ayu that so many people are on her side.
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Old 10th April 2007, 08:45 PM
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Japan has so many live music shows on TV, their artistes have so many opportunity to perform live and train their stamina as well, plus with all the stringent training and all that. And we also know that Japan has advanced technologies and they are very particular about quality.

Well, a lot of chinese artistes who don't have good singing (even when they are popular) have their studio recording edited so that they can sound good on their CDs, well this is sad when the real good singers usually do not get the recognitions they deserve.

And chinese singers always attend concerts by fellow singers. Why? Either they are really supporting their peers or they just want to be mentioned in the news that so-and-so was at this concert, see how supportive he/she is with the performer. And they always get front row seats. Even if they buy the most expensive tickets, special arrangements must be done to ensure them front row seats. Especially when the artistes are from the same company, you would have guessed their company got the tickets for them from the concert organizer even when they are not interested at all. They just go for the sake of their names getting mentioned in the news.

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Old 10th April 2007, 08:48 PM
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He should give excuses to the public for what he said >.<

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He should give excuses to the public for what he said >.<

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Old 10th April 2007, 09:16 PM
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This has all been manipulated by the media...there's not reason to flip out and send hate mail to his company. This isn't going to hurt ayu in any way.
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Old 10th April 2007, 09:21 PM
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Well, the translations of what he did say are kind of "wtf?" to me..

Like, "You can't sing and dance and sound that good! You just can't!"

It's like, have you met Namie Amuro? And can you even make that judgement when you aren't even a "fan" of the singer you're watching and you haven't even heard 90% of the songs in a CD quality form?
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Old 11th April 2007, 03:27 AM
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Well, the translations of what he did say are kind of "wtf?" to me..

Like, "You can't sing and dance and sound that good! You just can't!"

It's like, have you met Namie Amuro? And can you even make that judgement when you aren't even a "fan" of the singer you're watching and you haven't even heard 90% of the songs in a CD quality form?
LOl that's so true. Namie sounds perfectly like the CD even when she's dancing like crazy.

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I didn't read all the posts, but I can't help it, i need to say that I want to go to a Eason Chan concert (if there's any nowadays), get a front row seat, take a white blanket with a big red A mark and a pillow. And sleep. During the whole concert.
LOL!

I don't see a need to close this thread at all. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but don't go overboard like cursing him death or such..

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Old 10th April 2007, 09:39 PM
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The link has nothing to do with Eason Chan or any part of his management. I don't see why people should be writing to an organization that will not be doing anything.

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And yeah in 02-03 her voice was pretty bad, though I did like Heartplace^^.As for BoA's concerts, all the 3 arena tours and the LIVE seemed very much LIVE, though I was suspicious about Midnight Parade performance, but nothing is impossible,
I think it was With U (and maybe DO THE MOTION?) wasn't live in her BEST OF SOUL tour. And according to Japanese fans, 5 songs aren't live in the MADE IN TWENTY tour.

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That's misleading, since singers from HK have just as much appeal there as in Taiwan, Singapore, and the mainland. Unless they barred his CD from being sold outside the city, which i doubt.
Regardless, the 40k figure is for HK only. Plus, Cantonese pop has close to 0 appeal in the Mandarin speaking areas.

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Old 10th April 2007, 10:43 PM
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Is this the radio show your talking about? I think they are mention somthing about Ayu and Eason in it...
http://download.yousendit.com/28ED08735A1BF325
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NNG3E56O
Ok I tried translating it as good as possible.

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Male guy: Todays headline: Local 8 main headlines all concentrate their fire power to publish Ayumi Hamasakis one and only show, changes in 8 concert outfits sings and dances.

Female host: April 9, Monday. Today is last day of easter holiday. Do you feel like you have to think about what to do at work tomorrow and feel headache? Be ready tomorrow and make sure you dont be late to work. Ok now for todays headlines.

Male guy: Todays headline: Local 8 main headlines all concentrate their fire power to publish Ayumi Hamasakis one and only show, changes in 8 concert outfits sings and dances. Mariam yeung, niki chow and 茶小? (the female host) all prased the concert with one exception from eason chan saying the opposite. Not only did he fell asleep while watching, he also suspect ayu of lip synching
1/3 of the concert. Eason half dreaming half awake still can bust her. Even in his condition, this cant excape from the corner of his ears. definitely a music person (musician)

Female host:
Japan queen ayu sister (thats what they call her) ayumi hamasaki, was at HK for a concert show. If you look at the headlines, all you can see is just the same 2 pictures even though they are all in the main headlines in the newspaper. Thats because everyone who enters inside the concert, the reporters, all have to give up their cameras till after the concert ends when they leave and the cameras will be given back to them. Even the fans have to do the same. No exception. Everyone had to allow the security guards to open their bags to check. If theres cameras they wll take it away. Even though the show started half a hour late, but the crowd atmosphere quickly covered the whinning noise. Ayumi Hamasakis show can be said as almost perfect. Its believeable that one of the audience, 白雪仙 (the old chinese opera lady) can definitely get some ideas from this...because that fushia with cranes kimono is really so beautiful. I think next time if 白雪仙 have a show, she might have a similar outfit.

As for the dancers outfits, they were important and thoughtful. The materials are expensive. There was a person in the audience who have knowledge and studies textiles said: woah they give these outfits with such materials for dancers to wear? its unbelieveable!

There was also 2 females and 2 males in aerial hula hoops performance also made the whole crowd crap their hands very hard. From the stage set up, sound quality, lighting, fire blast,fireworks, lasers all moved to the HK colliseum and was seen at the concert. What you wanna see can be seen in the show. The sponsor Lam?? in the backstage told me there should of been a water fountain but the stage couldnt fit it so they had to cut it out. That was too bad. Ayus seriousness, and even her animation logo clip was carefully perpared. Just by watching the animation clip alone, everyone watched it very happily. Also the ribbons that fall from above have ayus signature on it as well. Every details was carefully correctly calculated. At the last performance, there was 4 huge glowing flashing heart shape frames, moved from left and right to the center to form a extreme flashing giant heart. Also adding ayu and the dancers huge colorful feather dance outfits, really wah, you want to see colorful you get colorful.

This ayu show, it looks like ??something x modern version concert combination. It was extremely exciting visually. We were at the audience seats and our eyes kept getting bigger and bigger. see this is what a great show is. I dont understand how eason can fall asleep in the concert. but he is good. Once he opens his eyes, he caught her lip synching. The whole show was cleanly done. Ayu from start to finish did not say anything besides sing, dance, change outfit, sing, dance, change outfit till encore, she changed into t-shirt and jeans and walked out casually, then used english and cantonese and said I am ayumi hamasaki to treat her fans. After that, with tears all over her face, she thanked the fans support.

This grand production is a 3 side stage meaning you can only sell about 7000 tickets. I thought the sponsor of this concert would lose money but the backstage boss, lam?? told me seriously, hey its not gonna lose money. Looks like beside thanking ayu, all the ayu fans, the backstage boss sponsor, and also tin?? (a guy from government or something?), ayu didnt want to leave HK from all the fun, delayed from going back to Japan. Ayu using action to help promote HK tourism. tin?? please write a thank you letter to ayu for this.
ok Im not sure if she was serious or being sarcastic when she said eason was good. Once he opens his eyes, he caught ayu lipping. I also thought it was interesting that she said according to the backstage sponsor boss that there should of been a water fountain but the stage couldnt fit it so they took it out. I also think that was too bad D=

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Old 10th April 2007, 11:23 PM
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Ok I tried translating it as good as possible.
Thanks for the excellent translation Ayumiko!

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Old 11th April 2007, 01:25 AM
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ok Im not sure if she was serious or being sarcastic when she said eason was good. Once he opens his eyes, he caught ayu lipping.
I listened to the interview and I didn't hear her say Eason was good, I just heard "Once Eason opened his eyes he caught Ayu lip syncing."
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Old 11th April 2007, 01:56 AM
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I listened to the interview and I didn't hear her say Eason was good, I just heard "Once Eason opened his eyes he caught Ayu lip syncing."
she said it right before that part. about 3:53. After when she said I dont understand how he can fall asleep. but eason is good. Direct translation should be: "but eason is truly smart." but I chose good coz it makes more sense than truly smart.

"I dont understand how he can fall asleep. but eason is good. Once Eason opened his eyes he caught Ayu lip syncing."

I dont get why she said that. Did she mean it like praise him for catching it right away when he woke up coz hes good/smart or sarcastic like wow u know right away after waking up and not paying attention? I dunno.

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Old 11th April 2007, 02:13 AM
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"I dont understand how he can fall asleep. but eason is good. Once Eason opened his eyes he caught Ayu lip syncing."

I dont get why she said that. Did she mean it like praise him for catching it right away when he woke up coz hes good/smart or sarcastic like wow u know right away after waking up and not paying attention? I dunno.
they certainly weren't being sarcastic IMO, they said it like "Eason totally caught her, he is 100% a pro musician -_-"
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