[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~crossroad & L for 50th Single~

[jon_the_d]

Go AYU!!!! Woooooot!!!!

[Andrenekoi]

Everyone is a marketing expert on AHS xD

But tons of promotion always help, hit singles like forgiveness and talkin' 2 myself prove it!

[dreamland2.0]

Yay congratz Ayu!!

[rakeru]

I wonder if Seiko watching somewhere, scheming....

But seriously, I wonder how she feels about her legacy almost being eclipsed? Disappointed, bitter, indifferent, happy for Ayu's success?

[Bigtop]

Don't know how will Seiko react - maybe congratulate her?

By the way, she released another compilation album called "Touch Me, Seiko II", but she was out of the top 30...

[jbrat2219]

^ Ouch! After Seiko's record. I wonder how long Ayu will continue to get #1 singles... What if Ayu's new record is unbeatable...?

[adantatu2]

^That will be coool!!!
I'm glad for ayu, she works a lot for this record, just another No.1 single and she is gonna be the winner!!

[freedreamer]

L is the one that breaks the record now what an epic moment

[rakeru]

It's cool that by coincidence the record breaker (presumably) is also her big 50th single. I can't get over how perfect the timing is.

[Ranma Matsuri]

Originally Posted by rakeru

It's cool that by coincidence the record breaker (presumably) is also her big 50th single. I can't get over how perfect the timing is.

It is quite the coinwinkidink isn't it?

Already knew it but congrats to Ayu on her #1 anyway.

So the B'z record is 43? She can probably shorten the gap between them in the next 5 years as she's definitely not going to stop releasing anytime soon but unless they retire or pick a horrible week to release, we're probably just gonna have to be content with her having Seiko's record (which is still pretty damn remarkable on it's own). You can argue about Avex's marketing gimmicks and the picking safe weeks to release or whatever but there's only so much you can do in that arena, the rest falls on the people that support her. As much as this woman pumps out year after year, for 8 years she's managed to have a #1 single. Almost a decade.

[bluegie]

Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri

You can argue about Avex's marketing gimmicks and the picking safe weeks to release or whatever but there's only so much you can do in that arena, the rest falls on the people that support her. As much as this woman pumps out year after year, for 8 years she's managed to have a #1 single. Almost a decade.

Not only avex doing that. B'z company, the Johnnys', Mr. Chlidren's company, etc. are doing the same thing. I dun think B'z can maintain the longest streak if their company doesn't choose safe weeks for them. Groups like AKB48 can totally blow the streak apart.

So, ayu streak will keep on until one day when a new artist kills it off (SCS is a good example).

[Ranma Matsuri]

Originally Posted by bluegie

Not only avex doing that. B'z company, the Johnnys', Mr. Chlidren's company, etc. are doing the same thing. I dun think B'z can maintain the longest streak if their company doesn't choose safe weeks for them. Groups like AKB48 can totally blow the streak apart.

So, ayu streak will keep on until one day when a new artist kills it off (SCS is a good example).

Yeah, I know that's why I said if the B'z get a bad week or something then Ayu has a chance lol. But echoing what Strawbari and njanjayrp said, you just don't get a streak like that strictly through the efforts of your label. You have to have some sort of selling power, less established artists do plenty of promotion, special events and their label offers lots of bonuses and LE's or whatever but they just barely scrap the top ten. Even big sellers like AKB do marketing gimmicks like that and release on quiet weeks at times but it doesn't take away from their accomplishments. At least, I don't think so. Maybe I'm just being naive or just easily impressed since a streak like that is pretty much unheard of and would never happen here in the West. But that's just the way I feel about it.

On-topic: I've already forgotten about last week lol but when can we expect midday sales for L?

[bluegie]

Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri

Yeah, I know that's why I said if the B'z get a bad week or something then Ayu has a chance lol. But echoing what Strawbari and njanjayrp said, you just don't get a streak like that strictly through the efforts of your label. You have to have some sort of selling power, less established artists do plenty of promotion, special events and their label offers lots of bonuses and LE's or whatever but they just barely scrap the top ten.

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

I don't think the ENTIRE record is bs because she had to get #1 and stay there in the first place. It's not like Avex was like OMG LOVE~DESTINY~ GOT #1 LET'S KEEP IT THAT WAY. At some point her popularity over all plays a factor, especially at her peak.

Of course the points are true. Somehow those streaks are not meant to show the artists' selling power. They are just a proof the artists' positions in the music industry. They used to be power sellers, and everything they sold were like golds back in the old days. That's why now they have the power to pick weaker weeks to release stuff. And that is the sarcasm for this "system". Their streaks are real (at least the first half for sure), yet to save the streaks they had to avoid those new power sellers..

That's why I really hope ayu will have a single to sell over 300K in the future. All her recent singles are bought from hardcore fans, and I think probly only 10% or less from those sales are bought from casual listener. I want her to release a song that even the general public love so much and can't resist to buy a physical copy.

Ok back to topic. In about 8 or 9 hrs we'll get the half day sales of L... Cross my finger and hopefully it will have a BIG number .

[bluegie]

Yeah... isn't that more than a coincidence?

[ストロボ・EdGE]

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

Honest question, how does that even help you personally? Does that just make you feel better to see her on a TV screen or in a magazine? I mean she already has a lot of magazines lined up and she performed crossroad at a-nation and on TV, plus she has the 7-day live... what, this weekend??? Seriously, what more do you want? That truck to drive around with her face on it or what? LOL.

No, I want lives on Music Station, Heyx3, etc. It doesn't "make me feel better", whatever it was that you were implying by that. But as long as I've been listening to Ayu, TV lives have been part of the new single out excitement. I love those shows, especially Msta seeing favorite artists together and interacting and then performing their new songs. Ayu performing live is one of my favorite parts of there being a new single out. What's wrong with that? :/

Don't really care for her being on magazines constantly, and I'm not in Japan so I don't care for trucks rolling around with her face on them. But I get it that Ayu is SUPER busy and she has a lot going on, but in any case it isn't like she's the one that books the lives or anything; I just feel these singles should've been performed on TV more, that's all. The Music Station performance of crossroad made me love and appreciate the song so much more when I didn't care for it much. At least it seems to me, a good way to promote your songs is to perform them on TV which leads to this clever comment:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Everyone is a marketing expert on AHS xD

[happiholic★]

Wow, L is going to be a big single for Ayu. Let's all hope for the best!

[Cherry Dynamite]

I bet Seiko Matsuda doesn't even care.

Hopefully L will sell well~

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite

I bet Seiko Matsuda doesn't even care.

Hopefully L will sell well~

lol is not like she could do anything about it anyway

maybe buy 100k copies of crossroad??

[AyuGAME]

^Japanese is really competitive country...i think seiko does care about the record...not that much...but i think she know about this thing going on with her almost breaking record

[TITANIC]

Ok. Ayu is about to break Seiko's record. after that, here's the hope for her to supress Mr. Children with 29 consecutives