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Old 25th July 2007, 11:32 AM
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I dont think its the leaking thats the problem. I just think the promotion wasnt well =x
I'm just asking, what would have you done different from what avex trax did?
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Old 25th July 2007, 11:46 AM
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Here is the Planet Chart ranking... no sales numbers, but they count CD+DVD and CD edition as different products. I guess we could assume that CD+DVD edition sold ~75k and CD edition around ~35k [Altough if i remember correctly Planet Chart numbers were usually slightly lower...]

#1 - Porno Graffitti - Link
#2 - Ayumi Hamasaki - glitter/fated (CD+DVD)
#3 - ORANGE RANGE - Ikenai Taiyou
#4 - Ayumi Hamasaki - glitter/fated (CD)
#5 - Acid Black Cherry - SPELL MAGIC

[Planet Chart]
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Old 25th July 2007, 12:30 PM
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whoa...Ayu dominating two spaces...haha cool!
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Old 25th July 2007, 12:45 PM
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2nd Day of 2nd Week

Position: #5

Not a big drop in chart.
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Old 25th July 2007, 02:12 PM
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I'm just asking, what would have you done different from what avex trax did?
Yes, I mean, it don't make no sense, the promotion was the same as every other Ayu release and bigger than most J-pop acts: appearence on every main music show, billboards and magazine covers, there's not much else to do.

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Ayu is a famous artist and doesn't need 4 PVs to promote the single, and we all know that neither A nor H had any PVs yet they sold like crazy^^.
The truth is: music videos don't make ANY difference in Japan. They don't watch music videos at all, since the vast majority of people in Japan don't have cable TV and so they don't have MTV or any other music channel and music videos don't air on TV, except for the 30 second clips in music shows. So yeah, it makes no difference if the PV is bad or not because people won't see it anyway.

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ummmmm.... congratulations on ayu for being no.1 and I dont think ayu herself think very much about the number, music nowadays is in a big big big big decline in sales.... but dont get me wrong, glitter is good, fated is good also.... >.< but I think you know, for some people glitter is such a mediocre, repetitive song... I mean... compare it to the fairyland & Blue bird, it does not have any big differences, I mean... its another summer-mello-bubble-pop >.<

but we have to appreciate every other opinion... thats the way ayu are now, we have to accept it because we are only her fans, not her teacher or business-consultant... As long ayu comfortable with those sings, we just can be happy and gladly received her with open arms & open hearted...

I know, some of you might want ayu getting back to the spotlight (no.1) stealing the headline and something like she used to do, but over the course of time, people have the ups and downs, I mean, thats the fact, koda or any other artists are more shining than her, but just like her songs in the secret album, she says the she doesnt care with what people say about her because right now for ayu, all of she has to do is proud of herselves.... Whatever she do, the public praise her

Just imagine, how come if glitter is sung by other artist, then I will surely doubt that his/her single will sell as well as ayu...

right now, just accept the fact hehehehehehe ^^ peace! no fight please, this place is used to be a peaceful site ..
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Old 25th July 2007, 02:38 PM
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ummmmm.... congratulations on ayu for being no.1 and I dont think ayu herself think very much about the number, music nowadays is in a big big big big decline in sales.... but dont get me wrong, glitter is good, fated is good also.... >.< but I think you know, for some people glitter is such a mediocre, repetitive song... I mean... compare it to the fairyland & Blue bird, it does not have any big differences, I mean... its another summer-mello-bubble-pop >.<

but we have to appreciate every other opinion... thats the way ayu are now, we have to accept it because we are only her fans, not her teacher or business-consultant... As long ayu comfortable with those sings, we just can be happy and gladly received her with open arms & open hearted...

I know, some of you might want ayu getting back to the spotlight (no.1) stealing the headline and something like she used to do, but over the course of time, people have the ups and downs, I mean, thats the fact, koda or any other artists are more shining than her, but just like her songs in the secret album, she says the she doesnt care with what people say about her because right now for ayu, all of she has to do is proud of herselves.... Whatever she do, the public praise her

Just imagine, how come if glitter is sung by other artist, then I will surely doubt that his/her single will sell as well as ayu...

right now, just accept the fact hehehehehehe ^^ peace! no fight please, this place is used to be a peaceful site ..
I agree with everything you said, with all of ayu's money I doubt she cares from high sales anymore and just wants to release whatever she really likes even if avex has to push her to do some stuff like summer single but ayu enjoys writing and singing it!

About your last sentence, it used to be a peaceful place because there used to be a lot of people that are her fans or actually like her, now there a lot of people that dislike most of her stuff, or just like her but not fans so they won't fight for finding good things to say, or want her to get down because they hate her or they have another favorite artist that want him/her to be better than ayu, sadly... I mean people can freely adore another artist (or some together) but being happy about bad things or talking bad about another artist isn't nice at all...

So finding good things to say or just avoiding constantly complain (not talking about sometimes complaining) is not an option for them, and that's why it's not a peaceful place as it used to...

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Old 25th July 2007, 03:03 PM
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Position: #5

Not a big drop in chart.
Yeah, I do think it's not a big drop as well, cause there are a lot of new singles but she can still on top 5 that's great!
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Old 25th July 2007, 03:04 PM
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Well I think the PV for glitter was kind of a turn off XD I wouldve just made them 2 seperate PVs. Im not saying the movie was bad, but it didnt really promote glitter as a song. I also think that they shouldve used a japanese actor instead of a hong kong one so more people in japan will be drawn to it. But hey thats just my opinion XD At least ayu still hit number one and barely dropped in the 2nd week =D
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Old 25th July 2007, 03:05 PM
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Well, This single has a big promotion, a 18 min. movie, considerable tv appearences, a lot of cover magazines and publicity with her recent break-up. It has more promotion than Startin'. The early leak might be the problem.
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Old 25th July 2007, 03:21 PM
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Well Startin' was in a PS2 game and Born To Be... was in the Winter Olympic games ending on TV which I think is more than a kiwi cm and movies tie-ins by a bit...

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Well Startin' was in a PS2 game
Err... in my opinion "Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams" is not a good game... nevertheless I don't like it -__- But... I've bought it because of Ayu's song...
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Hmmm, this is following the same path that FREAKY did...that single was also #5 the second day of the second week. Well, I think Ayu is still doing fairly well and hopefully she doesn't drop out of the Top 10 too soon.
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Old 25th July 2007, 11:07 PM
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Well, at least she has another #1.
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Old 26th July 2007, 08:35 AM
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and not at #2! When she gets a #2, that's when we all should be frantic and go mad, that avex broke her streak of #1s again.
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God, the day that happens I think AHS will go super crazy it wouldn't be the same it would like burn to the ground then Heaven will come to earth. And a piggy will fly.
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i hope can stay at #1 for 3 weeks but i'm not sure
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Old 26th July 2007, 11:42 AM
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^Well this week it won't be #1 already...
But it might be 5/4.

Today glitter/fated is #6

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are there no daily indicators after first week sales ? :*(
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Old 26th July 2007, 12:53 PM
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Soundscan numbers!

#1 83,186 PORNO GRAFFITI - Link
#2 80,526 Ayumi Hamasaki - glitter/fated (CD+DVD)
#3 53,359 ORANGE RANGE - Ikenai Taiyou (first press)
#4 26,934 Acid Black Cherry - SPELL MAGIC
#5 24,931 Ayumi Hamasaki - glitter/fated (CD-only)

So that's a total of 105,457 for glitter/fated.
According to Soundscan, FREAKY's opening week was 84,313 + 22,788 = 107,101.

I'm not 100% sure, but wouldn't Soundscan numbers be more accurate than Oricon ones? I mean... doesn't Soundscan track down every single purchase while Oricon just gets sales reports from a certain amount of shops and then just multiplies it or something o_o?
(And to minimize confusion, I'm not talking about the 1.7 indicator.)
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