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Old 9th July 2015, 09:30 PM
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The performance of WARNING was so damn good.

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Old 10th July 2015, 02:58 AM
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Well wasn't it reported in mixi that in the first two dates at Saitama Super Arena, quite a few sections were completely blocked off? You can't blame the casual Ayu fan though, she practically has been using the same stage since 2005 with minor variations here and there. Premium Showcase was different but not usable everywhere, and the 4-sided stage was only ever going to be used once. She also recycles a shit tonne of stuff in her shows. All the concert staples, even this year, Forgiveness, recycled, GAME+ my name's WOMEN, recycled, A Song For XX, that arrangement has been done many times. Don't get me wrong, I LOVED seeing all of those performances, but for the casual fan that wants something different and new each year? Why would I bother going every year for a predictable show?
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Old 10th July 2015, 03:16 AM
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Well wasn't it reported in mixi that in the first two dates at Saitama Super Arena, quite a few sections were completely blocked off? You can't blame the casual Ayu fan though, she practically has been using the same stage since 2005 with minor variations here and there. Premium Showcase was different but not usable everywhere, and the 4-sided stage was only ever going to be used once. She also recycles a shit tonne of stuff in her shows. All the concert staples, even this year, Forgiveness, recycled, GAME+ my name's WOMEN, recycled, A Song For XX, that arrangement has been done many times. Don't get me wrong, I LOVED seeing all of those performances, but for the casual fan that wants something different and new each year? Why would I bother going every year for a predictable show?
Ermm this year's arena consist of too many songs and you can't expect them to come up with new arrangements for all songs in 1 concert. they needed more time for the rehearsal so it's easier to do things that they had done before.
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I think casual fans want to see the older stuff. It's a bit jarring unless you are a hardcore fan to have tons of new material in a show.
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Old 10th July 2015, 04:07 AM
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Ayu wouldn't have added two more final dates if she is just giving away tix for 1000yen LOOL
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Old 10th July 2015, 04:37 AM
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J-netizens need to start showing the receipts before they talk out of their butt. They already have conspiracy theories that there was buyback for the ABL live album
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Old 10th July 2015, 09:10 AM
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J-netizens need to start showing the receipts before they talk out of their butt. They already have conspiracy theories that there was buyback for the ABL live album
There were theories around that album? I wasn't following Ayu around that time, would anybody be willing to explain that a bit please?
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Old 10th July 2015, 07:36 AM
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it's sad how most people just believe everything they read somewhere without there being actual proof -___-
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Old 10th July 2015, 10:52 AM
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^^ has anyone ever told you that your fixation on which tracks are sung live and which are performed with playback has moved past curiosity and borders on an unhealthy level of obsession?
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Old 10th July 2015, 10:59 AM
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^^ has anyone ever told you that your fixation on which tracks are sung live and which are performed with playback has moved past curiosity and borders on an unhealthy level of obsession?
No, otherwise I would make tons of posts regarding this matter, I mean if I were obsessed, which is not the case. We have speech freedom, so I don't plan to censor my thoughts just because they happen to bother you. People go to Ayu's concerts for different reasons. I go not for the show, but to enjoy live vocals, so it's only natural if like to figure out what was live and what wasn't.
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Old 10th July 2015, 11:52 AM
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No, otherwise I would make tons of posts regarding this matter, I mean if I were obsessed, which is not the case. We have speech freedom, so I don't plan to censor my thoughts just because they happen to bother you. People go to Ayu's concerts for different reasons. I go not for the show, but to enjoy live vocals, so it's only natural if like to figure out what was live and what wasn't.
I think u missed my last post regarding ur lipsync proving fetishism.
I wonder how difficult it is for a singer to sing a similar track to her own song. And how reliable is ur software. It doesn't says 100% ritez? And who the crowd cheering and environmental sound, if ur program says 100% accurate, I highly doubt it's accuracy too.
When u go to a concert, have fun and go home with a good memory. Instead of going home n doing csi to prove whether it's lipsync or not.
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Old 10th July 2015, 11:10 AM
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^^Maybe they didn't tell you what they think, but I'm sure a lot of people think the same chocopockymaster told. lol
I've seen post telling you sure have lot's of free time in order to be able to compare tracks. But in the end we are free to do anything we want, right?

Why sing live the final? maybe because the whole team, not only ayu, is more confident about making it perfect; it's the final leg of the tour, the most important dates... there are lots of reasons, I don't know.
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Old 10th July 2015, 11:21 AM
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^^Maybe they didn't tell you what they think, but I'm sure a lot of people think the same chocopockymaster told. lol
I've seen post telling you sure have lot's of free time in order to be able to compare tracks. But in the end we are free to do anything we want, right?

Why sing live the final? maybe because the whole team, not only ayu, is more confident about making it perfect; it's the final leg of the tour, the most important dates... there are lots of reasons, I don't know.
Well, first of all that comment about my time was kind of insulting. If someone dislikes some message, there's no need to be rude. It's like as if I told someone "no, you can't discuss certain matters on AHS, like her album covers". Would it make sense? Would it be correct? Lip syncing seems to be very sensitive topic for a lot of users here.
Yoyogi dates were not final ones.
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15th Anniversary TOUR ~A BEST LIVE~ (11.05, 12.05 (Yokohama), 15.05, 16.05 (Osaka)
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Old 10th July 2015, 12:15 PM
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Isn't it? Do we really need to discuss here what bothers us? I have a looooot of things to say.

I'm 100% sure ayu didn't sing the whole concert. She always did it before, always. Why would she stop at so long concert.
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Old 10th July 2015, 01:36 PM
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Isn't it? Do we really need to discuss here what bothers us? I have a looooot of things to say.

I'm 100% sure ayu didn't sing the whole concert. She always did it before, always. Why would she stop at so long concert.
Not always. You're exaggerating. Pretty sure early 2000s concert ain't lipsync. And POM? I doubt so too.
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Old 10th July 2015, 12:28 PM
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^It's not entirely true AT 2010/CDL 10-11/AT 2011/CDL 11-12/AT 2012 & CDL 12-13 are all fully live even the last one seems to me fully live too but yeah this discussion over and over again ... enjoy the show Ayumi is not the first and will not be the last one to use pre recorded tracks... even the biggest vocalists in the world lip sync !! and what about musicians lol?
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Old 10th July 2015, 02:11 PM
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If they did it on LINE and Twitter, shouldn't it be obvious? We DO have users who live in Japan here and they should be able to verify such claims.
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Old 10th July 2015, 02:23 PM
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If they did it on LINE and Twitter, shouldn't it be obvious? We DO have users who live in Japan here and they should be able to verify such claims.
I guess you are right, it seems to be rumours coming from haters, most stuff is really negative about Ayu on that ch.
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15th Anniversary TOUR ~A BEST LIVE~ (11.05, 12.05 (Yokohama), 15.05, 16.05 (Osaka)
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COUNTDOWN LIVE 2015-2016 A ~MADE IN TOKYO~ (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2016-2017 A『Just the beginning -20-』(29.12, 30.12)
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Old 10th July 2015, 06:49 PM
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It's been known for years that 2ch is full of haters in general, and ayu/kuu are example for few of their favorites to troll. They hate their guts there. I wouldn't even look there since it's a dead pool of negativity.

They would invent anything to downgrade ayu. Now things are making sense.
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Old 10th July 2015, 09:26 PM
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Here is the live recording of the final date in Yokohama that I recorded (including previews of the 2 new songs).

Please don't share anywhere else. Thank you and enjoy.

https://mega.co.nz/#!cBZR0b5a!9AdMUo...fD8MGlsz6ZNEgs
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