How messy was the divorce?

[isthisLOL?]

Wow, people are jumping to the conclusion that he is a horrible person and never loved Ayumi from this? Seriously? It definitely wasn't a good idea from his side to post this, but some form of hostility towards Ayumi is just one of several possible explanations. The most likely one being he simply found it funny.

Also, I don't think you would refer to the same person as lost love in one sentence and a psycho the next to be honest, the statement seems more like "it's better to be in a short but loving relationship than being in a bad one for long" since it does talk about love having been there.

[PoetGirl]

Honestly, my opinion is, even if it doesnt have to do with his real life (lets put it that way) just.. when you LOVED someone, you WOULD NEVER EVER PUT THAT AS A JOKE. 'cause it can be interpreted in a negative way, and you NEVER EVER want your beloved one to be hurt.

he's a horrible person for thinking thats funny.

Im glad ayu ran away from this pathetic loser.

[bondingo]

This thread needs to be closed. People are overanalyzing something they know absolutely nothing about based on a few clues gathered from social networks.

[happiholic★]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

Wow, people are jumping to the conclusion that he is a horrible person and never loved Ayumi from this? Seriously? It definitely wasn't a good idea from his side to post this, but some form of hostility towards Ayumi is just one of several possible explanations. The most likely one being he simply found it funny.

Also, I don't think you would refer to the same person as lost love in one sentence and a psycho the next to be honest, the statement seems more like "it's better to be in a short but loving relationship than being in a bad one for long" since it does talk about love having been there.

That's not how I interpret the joke, personally. To me its saying, its better that you lost your loved one, because they were psycho anyway. The company that makes these joke e-cards is known for being incredibly mean in their jokes. So, because of that, I'm pretty sure this joke was meant to insult the ex, in this case, Ayu.

That's not to say he never loved her, or anything like that, but I do find this joke to be a tad tasteless.

[Machiko]

Originally Posted by PoetGirl

Honestly, my opinion is, even if it doesnt have to do with his real life (lets put it that way) just.. when you LOVED someone, you WOULD NEVER EVER PUT THAT AS A JOKE. 'cause it can be interpreted in a negative way, and you NEVER EVER want your beloved one to be hurt.

he's a horrible person for thinking thats funny.

Im glad ayu ran away from this pathetic loser.

Amen to this.

I really can't believe some Ayu fan's opinions I've seen (not here), saying that Ayu was a ****** so Mannie has all the right to be pissed at her and that Ayu just used him. I just can't understand how a fan can say things like that.

[Mai82Go]

Uuuhm? Somehow I find this funny. I don't really think it means what people obviously think it means. But if it does...whatever.....he's gone from her life, what do we care?

[isthisLOL?]

We can't know what he intended to do with this, so calling him a pathetic loser and horrible person, seriously?

I do agree that posting it was a mistake though.

[PoetGirl]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

Anyone calling someone a "pathetic loser" for making a mistake on the internet is a pathetic loser in my book tbh.

he's not a kid. there's no place for 'mistake on the internet', especially knowing that you dated a celebrity.

[koumori]

Originally Posted by bondingo

This thread needs to be closed. People are overanalyzing something they know absolutely nothing about based on a few clues gathered from social networks.

Yup. It's just a pass-around comedy picture, calm down people. He's allowed to have a sense of humour.

[bondingo]

@PoetGirl: Oh please. If this was posted by a different person in the same situation and wasn't about Ayu you wouldn't give two craps.

And any relationship that ends sour can leave people with extreme feelings. It's understandable. Ultimately he just posted a lighthearted joke probably to share with friends, not a bunch of weirdos who friended the guy because they only care about his wife and not him.

[PoetGirl]

I dont know whats worse, him or people who try to defend his ass.

[RayJason]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

Anyone calling someone a "pathetic loser" for making a mistake on the internet is a pathetic loser in my book tbh.

Way to be nice to fellow forum-mates... I wonder what gave you the thought or rather what gave you so much backup to claim that his post was a 'mistake'.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by PoetGirl

he's not a kid. there's no place for 'mistake on the internet', especially knowing that you dated a celebrity.

You do know that isn't really an argument, right? We are discussing if he is a "horrible person" or not and that is based on intention purely. However, we do not know his intention because nothing he did clearly shows his intention. The card itself is NOT clear, seen by how different people interpret it differently. It was rather stupid to put this online after a divorce, yes, but stupid does not equal evil and it is a joke-card.
Calling someone you don't even know a "horrible person" and "pathetic loser" for something he posted of which the meaning is unknown in circumstances we do not know seems like a rather big overreaction.
He could be a horrible person, yes, that's entirely possible. It could be about Ayumi. But the thing is, we don't know and it might as well be the opposite and he just didn't consider that people may interpret it differently. So just jumping to the conclusion that he MUST be evil?

[Machiko]

There a line between a joke and an insult. Do you also call your ex's, or other people you're not good friends with, with names on the internet and say "i'm allowed to have a sense of humor"?
I don't.

[PoetGirl]

me neither. I would never potray the people I dated in any negative light. Thats so low.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by Lady Dynamitez

There a line between a joke and an insult. Do you also call your ex's, or other people you're not good friends with, with names on the internet and say "i'm allowed to have a sense of humor"?
I don't.

The thing he: he is not calling Ayumi any names.
The card is ambiguous. Different people interpret the meaning as polar opposites, namely either:
"It's better to divorce a psycho than to stay with him/her." or
"It's better to be in a short, loving relationship than in a long one but with a psycho."

I can see how people could jump to the first and be hurt by it. IF the first is meant I agree it's a horrible thing to do and incredibly mean, but we don't know if it is.

[Marseille]

Originally Posted by kotora

Yes he is, and that is the reason why I want to add him on my facebook.

LOL! too funny. But seriously, for Ayu's sake, I hope he didn't mean this about her.. but if he did, especially since he made the post public, he's such a creep.

Either way, I never liked him, he always seemed *off* but I wished them happiness when the marriage happened. *shrugs* It doesn't really matter about him being a douche now though since they're divorced.

[Machiko]

I think a "psycho" is pretty much "calling with names". I don't know better word for that, but something that's supposed to be insulting, you know? I think it's pretty obvious he was referring to Ayumi. Yes, we don't know that for 100%, but you really can't blame us for getting mad at him for posting that. I think it's pretty damn obvious that that was no a mistake or a random joke on facebook.

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by Lady Dynamitez

I think a "psycho" is pretty much "calling with names". I don't know better word for that, but something that's supposed to be insulting, you know? I think it's pretty obvious he was referring to Ayumi. Yes, we don't know that for 100%, but you really can't blame us for getting mad at him for posting that. I think it's pretty damn obvious that that was no a mistake or a random joke on facebook.

I know that calling someone a "psycho" is insulting. The thing is that the sentence structure actually points towards the "psycho" and the "lost love" not being the same person. You wouldn't call someone your "lost love"(that one is clearly Ayumi with their recent divorce) and then a "psycho" in the very next line, would you? If you are going to call someone a psycho you won't admit you loved that person until recently. He is not saying "I was with a psycho", he is saying "I was in a loving relationship for a short time, it's better than being in a bad relationship for a long time" Of course my interpretation doesn't have to be correct either, but to me it says "I have been in love, it's over now, but it was a great, albeit short, relationship. Better than a long one with someone you don't love." and that's the point, it can mean that, too. What if that's what he meant?

[saigodansu]

@isthisLOL

LOL

that saying has been used many different ways for as many years as I've been alive and more and it is all referring to the same person