Ayu's dancer Hide has changed sex from man to woman

[freedreamer]

OMG SERIOUSLY?!?!
never expected this.

[happiholic★]

Super happy for her~!! Homegurl looks fab.

[AyuGAME]

wow...i thought that maybe Gomi will do this...never expect that Hide did this...

[ayumisrael]

congrats She was good looking as a man.

[emi♡]

lol Personally I used "him" to denote that the "him" from before, did something good for himself.


Now that she's a girl, I'll always refer to her as a girl.

I don't think it's okay because she's biologically male. I use pronouns by personal identification.

[truehappiness]

I remember Hide retired or something from dancing...

Good for her!

[isthisLOL?]

Understanding a factual statement without the necessary context as "rude" just is a sign of jumping to conclusions too quickly to me.

She is both male and female now. I respect that she identifies as female and that she prefers that pronoun, but I see no reason for the truth to be offensive. The pronoun the person identifies with is, of course, preferable, but the other one remains correct. That said, the "he" in my first post was not done purposely, but simply because for years I have known of that person as "him", I would obviously use "she" if I personally knew her and/or was personally talking to her, simply because it is probably her wish.
In the end, today nobody can fully change their gender(it will hopefully become possible one day), they might identify with another one, but will remain at least biologically of their original gender with elements of the other gender(some purely visual, some functional). It's nothing disrespectful, rude or ignorant, - it's nothing to look down on either - it's simply truth. How that truth is treated - with acceptance or without - is the question, but ignoring it won't do anything.

But to get back on track:
I am hopeful that she will have a more fulfilled life after this. I really cannot say more since I only know her from being Ayumi's former dancer.

[jean-baptiste]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

^ it? lol, although that might be offensive to some.

the english language is to homophobic to have a gender neutral pronoun... although it might not be homophobic and more 'label obsessive.'

I don't think it's too "homophobic." Whether someone went through a sex change or not, there is only male and female. What I mean is either a man changing to a woman or the opposite, it's still only those 2 genders. There isn't some random third gender. You can't blame the language for only having "he" and "she" if there IS only he and she.

Originally Posted by norwegian blue

Most people are normal in the sense that women are born with a female brain and a female body, while men are born with a male brain and male body. Sometimes, though, it happens that people are born with a female brain and a male body or a male brain and a female body.

I'm honestly not homophobic, I'm just really curious about this topic. Unlike homosexuality, transsexualism isn't exactly explained or talked about as much. Technically, in this case, from what you're saying, if she has a "female brain" but a male body wouldn't it technically be considered an abnormal psychological phenomenon? This question goes to anyone who think they know the answer. I don't know if my question makes sense, but I was very meticulous with how I worded it for the sake of offending people.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by jean-baptiste

I'm honestly not homophobic, I'm just really curious about this topic. Unlike homosexuality, transsexualism isn't exactly explained or talked about as much. Technically, in this case, from what you're saying, if she has a "female brain" but a male body wouldn't it technically be considered an abnormal psychological phenomenon? This question goes to anyone who think they know the answer. I don't know if my question makes sense, but I was very meticulous with how I worded it for the sake of offending people.

"Everyone" have those 3:

Physical gender: Male or Female
Psychological gender: Male or Female
Sexual orientation: straight or gay

You can have any combination of those 3, so, even if Hide for example changed her sex to become a girl, she can still be into girls... Her case is not album how she feels about others, but how she feels about herself. The prejudice name on this case would be "transphobia".

It's not considered to be an mental illness or something cuz only stuff that hurt the person themselves and people around them can be considered such (that's why homossexuality can't be considered an illness either).

And neutral pronouns are useful cuz not everyone is either male or female, the most rare it is, you have a lot of people who are in between, this is called intersex. On this cases, usually the person stick to the role of one of the 2 genders, but it's difficult to apply one gender since childhood to those people because it's not uncommon for them to grow up and discover they identify with the other gender.

[Kanzaki]

Congratulations! I bet this is a big relief for her

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Wow, she's really inspiring and very brave indeed.

I hope that she can be happy, although I'm sure that she feels a million times better now than before


Soo interesting to be able to follow the lives of these people who are part of our fandom! My best wishes for her!

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

Wow, she's really inspiring and very brave indeed.

I hope that she can be happy, although I'm sure that she feels a million times better now than before

Pretty much.

Still people around here tend to make an argument out of everything...

[relmy]

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

Wow, she's really inspiring and very brave indeed.

I hope that she can be happy, although I'm sure that she feels a million times better now than before


Soo interesting to be able to follow the lives of these people who are part of our fandom! My best wishes for her!

You put it perfectly!

Congrats, I'm so happy for her. ♥

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by isthisLOL?

Understanding a factual statement without the necessary context as "rude" just is a sign of jumping to conclusions too quickly to me.

She is both male and female now. I respect that she identifies as female and that she prefers that pronoun, but I see no reason for the truth to be offensive. The pronoun the person identifies with is, of course, preferable, but the other one remains correct. That said, the "he" in my first post was not done purposely, but simply because for years I have known of that person as "him", I would obviously use "she" if I personally knew her and/or was personally talking to her, simply because it is probably her wish.
In the end, today nobody can fully change their gender(it will hopefully become possible one day), they might identify with another one, but will remain at least biologically of their original gender with elements of the other gender(some purely visual, some functional). It's nothing disrespectful, rude or ignorant, - it's nothing to look down on either - it's simply truth. How that truth is treated - with acceptance or without - is the question, but ignoring it won't do anything.

But to get back on track:
I am hopeful that she will have a more fulfilled life after this. I really cannot say more since I only know her from being Ayumi's former dancer.

But I think it is important to set sex apart from gender. Today you can fully change your gender, not your sex. That has nothing to do with ignoring the truth. It's just that in this world most people wouldn't accept the change of one's sex and by calling Hide now she instead of he one can show acceptance.

[Larien]

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan

But I think it is important to set sex apart from gender. Today you can fully change your gender, not your sex. That has nothing to do with ignoring the truth. It's just that in this world most people wouldn't accept the change of one's sex and by calling Hide now she instead of he one can show acceptance.

I think that's the point people are trying make, yeah, in that sex and gender are two different things. Sex is a word we use to describe a set of biological characteristics, whereas gender is a social construction that is performed and reaffirmed through action and interaction. According to Judith Butler, (1988, though essentially the same definition was given by scholars West and Zimmerman in 1987):

Gender is an identity specific to a particular place and time, demonstrated to the outside world through a stylized repetition of acts, the reenactment and re-experiencing of a set of meanings already socially established.

So while our society has established the dual structure of male/female as definitive and all-encompassing, this is not necessarily true for all societies across the globe (I'm not necessarily applying this to Japan in particular, where this binary is accepted by most parties in the modern day), and additionally, sex and gender need not necessarily be in accordance with one another.

Does that make sense? >.<

[JackieRos]

oh wow this is nice.


not relevant but the man who directed the matrix also turned into a woman.
also this guy from a hispanic band did the same thing.

[happiholic★]

Originally Posted by JackieRos

oh wow this is nice.


not relevant but the man who directed the matrix also turned into a woman.
also this guy from a hispanic band did the same thing.

I head about the Matrix director. One of the Wachowski brothers, but I don't remember which one. Or their individual names.

I know that a member from a Visual Kei band got one not too long ago, after the band broke up. Then she became a prostitute. It made me sad, because I thought she was in a relationship with one of the members and I thought they were so freaking cute.

[TeamAyu2004]

Oh, wow... how interesting...

[TeamAyu2004]

Holy crap, I cant believe that.

there is a HUGE difference between SEX and gender. You can be male (sex) but feel and be female (gender) and vice verse. To say that people can not or to not even acknowledged the fact is inhumanly gross.

also, one can completely change their SEX and gender.

About about the he/she talk... it all depends on the person. HIDE might not find it offensive at all to be still called a HE by his/her's friends... or even people that HIDE as just met, (although I don't know why HIDE would go by male if he is female to new people?)

I have know transgender people go by both because they understand that it is a HUGE adjustment. and the point of it is to make it as easy as possible for yourself and loved ones.

[Bigtop]

Eh...?

(Also, the images seems to be hotlinked...)