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Old 5th January 2005, 01:08 AM
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well i wouldn't say that juzzzzz yet...because i can list a lil number of good unaffected HK pop singers..but note...the number is less than 15>.<
i heard that all these talentless singers are all signed to the same record company!!!and the company is supported by a triad!!!
and one more thing..yes sometimes the "singers" are not that pretty..but they juz have to sleep with the right person to get famous....like Yumiko...i heard that she had an affair with the owner of the record company!omg and some of these singers are excessively skinny!!!anerexic!!!like Emme..shes not even pretty!!!she got nth but bones these days...not only her but other skinny bones too...
It's true. The company is called Emperor Group and it's CEO is called Yeung Sau Shing, who is said to be involved in heavy crime and triad business. And after Joey Yung went to a hotel with him, she suddenly got famous. And Yumiko is indeed with the same record label, but I don't know anything about her relationship with the boss.

Hong Kong music business is all about "support". and that support most often, if not always, means criminals and triads. Just look at Juno, he looks like a monkey, he sings like.... I don't even know how to express it... But his father buys, literaly buys, fans for him. $200 to scream his name, $300 to carry his banner, $400 to chase his car...

The whole hongkong showbiz industry is controlled by triads, and I think everyone knows it, and those who deny it, are just fooling themselves. You can see how much "support" Joey Yung has. Once, there was this tv show, i think it was EYT, and there was this small time guy, who was very good at imitating people, and he imitated, and of cource ridiculed, after all, it's an entertainment show, Joey Yung. Not long after, he was assaulted by Emperor's henchmen.
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Old 5th January 2005, 01:32 AM
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"Ayumi however......"

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Old 5th January 2005, 01:49 AM
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I knew about the Triads control of EEG, didn't know about the boss and Joey's night-in...
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Old 5th January 2005, 02:13 AM
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You're definitely not alone in this! I agreed with everything you have said. I'm from Hong Kong by the way and i am so tired of people like Twins, Boyz, Edison, Cookies etc.!! They cannot sing, and they're very famous. When you look at them, you would think "Hey they're very good looking, i'll buy their CDs" And after you listened to the whole CD, you would really want to complain to the company. Most of the new artists DO NOT write or compose ANY of their songs, they don't even try.

One good point my friend told me some time ago, she told me MOST of the hong kong singers were MODELS. You get the point? The companies hired them not because of their singing skills, rather because of their looks! Just listen to Edison. OMG, he cant' even speak CANTONESE when he came out and he released like album after album. Just because he's good looking and is RICH, he gets to do things that many other talented people deserves to. That's why i resort to listen to Japanese songs, most of the HK people don't know..how to sing at all. There are a few HK oldies who are still out there who i acknowledged to be REAL singers. They are Miriam Yung, Kelly Cheng, GiGi Leung, Faye Wong of course.

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i agree with the songs being mediocre..im not saying they ALL are...but a lota chinese songs i hear just...bore me..
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Old 5th January 2005, 02:38 AM
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sorry if i forgot to bring this up but umm
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And Deep is actually a pretty good live singer
IMO his name is kinda... Deep Ng? Juz a random fact:When I mention his name(and note only his name my sis starts cracking up XD!

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You're definitely not alone in this! I agreed with everything you have said. I'm from Hong Kong by the way and i am so tired of people like Twins, Boyz, Edison, Cookies etc.!! They cannot sing, and they're very famous. When you look at them, you would think "Hey they're very good looking, i'll buy their CDs" And after you listened to the whole CD, you would really want to complain to the company. Most of the new artists DO NOT write or compose ANY of their songs, they don't even try.
woot i'm not alone!!!!not only that they didn't compose the songs...they can't even read music themselves...these days...*sighs* so disappointed at the mediocracy
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And after Joey Yung went to a hotel with him, she suddenly got famous. And Yumiko is indeed with the same record label, but I don't know anything about her relationship with the boss.
wow didn't know that..but now...it has made me madder!!!that reminds me..every once in a year those stars that got signed to this record company get out and throw a show(as i mentioned before my mommy luvs that kinda shows...i juz think thats pieces of crap)and when i went outside for some water...i hear this 3 girls(one of them was yumiko) singing a trio...and i was like "omg!!how can they put that on tv??its worse than karoke"
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Just look at Juno, he looks like a monkey
lmao!!!yes he does!!and i thought he got arrested for drugs...or someone else did..cant remember..they all sound like the same

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I was flipping through channels once and saw a Chinese music video on the International Channel.. man.. they all sound alike or they can't sing at all..

Eh... a reason why that some of the singers in Asia don't exactly 'grow up' to become adults/sound like adults/dress like them.. is because cuteness (I don't know if it exists in China, but it sure does in Japan.. the typical high pitched voice and good manners, etc such thing) is considered good. I can't stand listening to singers with voices that are sugar coated.. I admit that I don't really listen to a lot of Ayumi's old stuff because some of her songs kind of blew my ear drum out on several occasions.. but it does get annoying listening to people with those kind of voices..

How the hell do they find these people to sing anyway? Not just modeling.. but come on
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I was flipping through channels once and saw a Chinese music video on the International Channel.. man.. they all sound alike or they can't sing at all..
yep..there's no escape from the wrath of bad-qualitied singers on Chinese satellite!!!that's why i'm always in my room!!!!on the comp!!!
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How the hell do they find these people to sing anyway? Not just modeling.. but come on
lol maybe a show like American Idol??Just don't let the guy from the record company host it....but then again..HK might vote for a pretty face with no talents rather than a talented person with a plain face
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have any of you heard of The Marshmallow Kisses? They're pretty new and released their EP not too long ago ... I really like their music .. its very chilled .. though in English
Oh, someone else has heard of them. I'm surprised, I really like their stuff. 'Chet Lam', 'My little airport' and 'at17' has some nice chill music too.
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I must say, most of the new HK or Taiwan artist is CRAP. They are most likely to be popular because they are cute, pretty or hot. And they have other offer (acting) because they are popular. Best example? Twins. They play in a tons of chinese movie but yet, they have no acting skills. They have no talent whatsoever when it comes to songwritting and vocally either. The new artists right now are just, not good. Plus, they lip synch. Ew.

I love older Chinese songs, so much better. (From artist that have been out there for long. (Andy Lau, Kelly Chen and other...) Not some talentless teen.) The new chinese artist suck. My mom think so too. She's always "Where the hell did all those teen artist came out? Their music is so bad." HAHA, i love my mom!

Personally, i'm 15 and i prefer those older chinese songs. The ones that everybody knows. The classics. Those are amazing.
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"Ayumi however......"

Are you attempting to insult ayumi without causing an uproar?
To whom was this aimed?

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To whom was this aimed?
I think it was aimed to me. but the logic of it escapes me.

First, bates, lets get 1 thing straight; If I would like to insult Ayumi, I would do it openly, as I am not a person afraid of "causing uproar", and, I would do it in the appropiate thread. If I wanted to insult her, you wouldn't even used the word "attempting". you would know it for sure.

Second, I know it's hard to see the *extremely* faint border between "cantopop" and "ayumi", but at least try to find it.

And if it wasn't aimed at me, tough luck

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I favor the oldies too. The only "modern" artists I like are Kelly and HoCC. Imo the old songs were composed, written and sung in far superior quality compared to nowadays. Good old days with Anita Mui, Roman, Lesie etc etc.
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The older singers in China look like they have a lot of experience and such.. and are well liked. however, with new people coming out, people just look at how pretty they look and when they hear them sing.. it's like OUCH MY FREAKIN ears.. I guess it's.. appearances is what matters in the Chinese singing industry..
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The older singers in China look like they have a lot of experience and such.. and are well liked. however, with new people coming out, people just look at how pretty they look and when they hear them sing.. it's like OUCH MY FREAKIN ears.. I guess it's.. appearances is what matters in the Chinese singing industry..
Yeah, i agree. I prefer the older singers from China...
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I guess it's.. appearances is what matters in the Chinese singing industry..
yep yep that and sleeping with the right person(eg. the guy that runs the record company)and also being rich enough to literally buy fans!
omg this aggrivates me so much!!!they keep on putting those mvs on my channels and here i'm stuck in my room cause of that!!those peoples are talentless and should just quit the entertainment showbiz!i mean..don't they feel guilty about their fame???guess not...i don't care if the dude that runs the record company send out his assassins to come and kill me for saying this...but i have to say it:" THOSE GUYS NEED TO GET OFF THE STAGE AND THE GUY THAT RUNS THAT RECORD COMPANY SHOULD RETIRE!!!AND THEY NEED TO HIRE BETTER TALENT SCOUTS AFTER FIRING ALL THOSE SO CALLED SINGERS!!!"
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Nicholas Tse, Jay Chou, LMF anyone?
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yep yep that and sleeping with the right person(eg. the guy that runs the record company)and also being rich enough to literally buy fans!
omg this aggrivates me so much!!!they keep on putting those mvs on my channels and here i'm stuck in my room cause of that!!those peoples are talentless and should just quit the entertainment showbiz!i mean..don't they feel guilty about their fame???guess not...i don't care if the dude that runs the record company send out his assassins to come and kill me for saying this...but i have to say it:" THOSE GUYS NEED TO GET OFF THE STAGE AND THE GUY THAT RUNS THAT RECORD COMPANY SHOULD RETIRE!!!AND THEY NEED TO HIRE BETTER TALENT SCOUTS AFTER FIRING ALL THOSE SO CALLED SINGERS!!!"
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Nicholas Tse, Jay Chou, LMF anyone?
Nicolas: He has pretty good songs, but I don't like his attitude (so this is a personal feeling, nothing to do with his qualities, or lack op them). Not much to say about him though.. has no special qualities, nor severe lacking in certain qualities. I guess you could say he's above average.

Jay: I still love his song, QiLiXiang, but most of his song don't appeal me much. he can sing tho.. unlike many others. (On a sidenote: Jay isn't really cantopop. He doesn't sing in cantonese, and is from Taiwan)

LMF: LMF is just funny. I have their album LazyMotherF.., you guys can guss what F stands for. I quite liked them. Not so much anymore, but that's because the only songs I have are like 3 years old.. they're getting worn out. Back in the days when they started to get popular, they shook things quite up in Hong Kong . People were completely shocked that there could be such thing as non-mainstream . This was never seen before. "omg, they use foul language! This is completely bad music". Radiostations try to ban them. From then on, people started to get weird. And I started to see Slipknot and KoRn T-Shirts on the street. weird sight, i guarantee, especially in HongKong, where mediocre mainstream music flourishes like never before.
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Jay Chou definitely stands up to his name. He writes and composes MOST of his songs, unlike many of the other chinese artists who doesn't give a damn about writing or composing even one of their songs!
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Jay Chou!ya he's one of the few who can actually sing in HK..but ya he sings in Mandarin..so he doesn't really count..but hes GREAAAATTT
well about Nic Tse...well in '97(the yr he debutted in)i was 7 yrs old and i heard that he was caught lip synching in a live performance and then he got mad and throw the mic and yelled at the DJ ppls...he was like "i already told dad we shouldnt put this tape on..."something like that...
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