[news] Ai Kago suspended indefinitely from H!P for smoking - Page 2

aiko_hoshi · #21 9th February 2006, 11:29 PM

it's not tsunku's fault kago was caught.
anyways, it's ufa that makes the rules.
kago was dumb enough to get caught, she needs to deal with the consequences.
she knows what she can and cannot do. it's no one's fault but hers.

Brittany · #22 9th February 2006, 11:37 PM

Yup. It was her fault she decided to pick up smoking and got caught. She knows that she's underage, yet she still decides to do it. She's got to live with the concequences. But with H!P suspending her is too far. She probably got fined by the ones that caught her .. but that's really REALLY too far. Not many follow smoking and drinking rules in Japan (and anywhere else..

), but Japan has to crack down on the cigarettes & alcohol in vending machines and need to card people.

I hear one can just go into a store and buy alcohol without an ID.

***ImpactBreaker*** · #23 9th February 2006, 11:40 PM

Guys how are you even sorry? Her suspension was a great thing and I hope they won't be easy on her just because she's famous. If in Japan it is against law to smoke underage, then why break the laws?
I hope the suspension will make the girl think about the consequences of smoking. I also hope this will serve as a lesson to other japanese people since she's famous and the news are probably widespread by now.

superdonut · #24 9th February 2006, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe - with a - L

I hope the same thing won't happen to Kago as it did with Mari

What happened to Mari~? Did she smoke too?

Brittany · #25 9th February 2006, 11:46 PM

I think Mari was caught with a guy or something. Not sure.

I think that suspending her was wayyyyy overboard. Look, singers/actors are 'role models,' but I feel they aren't because, they are normal people as well and are human. They make mistakes and pay for them in the end. They live and learn.

It's like saying celebrities in America or any place else isn't banned from acting if they get accuations of doing drugs.

#26 9th February 2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nmskalmn

You can live without smoking. That law applies to every 18 yr old in Japan, not just Hello! Project members.

And what about Mari Yaguchi dating?

aiko_hoshi · #27 10th February 2006, 12:05 AM

idols have different rules than just a singer or actor/actress. they are supposed to be pure and innocent.

kago getting suspended, imo, isn't that big of a deal. it's just a road she has to take and hopefully she realizes if she's gonna smoke, she'll do it in the privacy of her own home.

and mari knew she wasn't allowed to have a boyfriend. again, it's the rule of an idol and she KNEW that. at least, if she was gonna have a boyfriend, try harder not to get caught.
she had lied to her company earlier and said she didn't have a boyfriend when asked. it's better to come clean then to end up getting caught.

it's just what comes along with being an idol. you go into the industry, no matter what you have an image you HAVE to uphold.

orenji_jaro · #28 10th February 2006, 12:21 AM

ai kago doesn't look like someone who could smoke or do that... >___<"
what happent o her... she's over now... danger danger!
kotoko!!!

***ImpactBreaker*** · #29 10th February 2006, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brittany

I think Mari was caught with a guy or something. Not sure.

I think that suspending her was wayyyyy overboard. Look, singers/actors are 'role models,' but I feel they aren't because, they are normal people as well and are human. They make mistakes and pay for them in the end. They live and learn.

It's like saying celebrities in America or any place else isn't banned from acting if they get accuations of doing drugs.

She commited a crime. Some people actually get fired from certain jobs when they become criminals. It's not overreaction, we should be gkad she was only suspended.

Plus do we even know what was written in the terms when she signed in for the job? The terms were probably clear enough that she should stay away from problem. Since she's underage the company could get sued by the family accusing the company for the fact the girl ended up starting smoking. It was more than fair and definitely not an overreaction. (what if the other Hello! Project! girls parents get worried about their underaged daugthers working along people who break laws such as Ai and decide that their children shouldn't work for the company anymore? There are way too many issues that could justify the reason for her suspension. It was not random.)
And yep, I agree she's just like normal people. Normal people could get fired or suspended from their jobs for breaking laws so the same things should stick to artists.

#30 10th February 2006, 12:35 AM

Its illegal for minors to buy cigarettes in my state, but not to smoke them.

elepop · #31 10th February 2006, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by j_nerd

Their rules are ridiculous, these girls aren't allowed to live.

Are you kidding me? Smoking basically means you have a huge chance to, well, die. Smoking is not "cool" and should be taken seriously. Especially when you're still young.

walking proud · #32 10th February 2006, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by superdonut

What happened to Mari~? Did she smoke too?

Mari Yaguchi was caught with a guy (by a weekly magazine called "Friday"), and since H!P wanted her to have the "single" image, they all decided it was best she left Momusu. She pinned it on something like "it's time to move on" in her last interview, though.

stardusties · #33 10th February 2006, 05:31 AM

oh man that's not cool, I don't know how serious Japan takes on smoking, [i really don't know how they take it here in the states either, they seem to let stuff go easily...] but i do know Asian countries, or atcually..any country OTHER than the US is very strict on their rules with pretty much all illegal activity.
So I think her getting away with just a suspension is maybe not as marsh as it should be. Nacchi was suspended on terms of plagarism, but i don't know which is worse of the two..smoking or plagarism....

eh, anyway, maybe she is doing it for the weight loss, but the best+most effective way for her to do that is to get rid of her kuso girl title and start working out and excersizing because smoking is extremely unhealthy. and She needs to learn that,

Kikaru · #34 10th February 2006, 06:16 AM

Well, to be honest, she kind of brought it upon herself. First of all, smoking is not healthy anyways, and I do hope it quites, just for the sake of her health. Second of all, it's not just a H!P rule, but like someone said before, it applies to everyone in Japan. Had she been at some other job, she would have faced the same consequence. But I do hope she's not suspended for too long. W songs are rather growing on me.

With the Mari issue, I do think that was a little overboard. Sure, she knew, but she was over 21 at that point, and she should be able to make her own decisions.

starr5245 · #35 10th February 2006, 09:36 AM

That's pretty sad!!! Since she's in the group for years, it seems to abrupt to end her career in Morning Musume now...

bluegie · #36 10th February 2006, 10:21 AM

I think suspension is good enough for aibon. Honestly I hate people smoking. I dun see how COOL you can be when you smoke. If you smoking because you love smoking, I have nothing to say except "take care yourself." If you do that because of the former reason, I will definitely say that you can go to hell you are not cool at all. If aibon smokes because she wanna lose weight (which I kinda doubt), she's a moron as well. What's the point of losing weight when you use some methods that will actually damage your body? It's really nonsense anywayz..

I think she deserves for the outcome. How do you define IDOLS? You can't deny that IDOLS are a group of people worshipped by many people, especially the youngsters. What the idols do are being watched by thousands of people. Let's say aibon smokes and some girls thought, "OMG... she looks really cool for that...," "Oh... my friends follow aibons and they start smoking... I will look stupid if I dun..." You know some teenagers really have those thoughts, and how do you stop them? They may think the older ones against them, and/or may even argue with the statement "I look outdated if I dun do blah blah blah." So I dislike idols doing things that have a negative effect on their fans.

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Originally Posted by walking proud

Mari Yaguchi was caught with a guy (by a weekly magazine called "Friday"), and since H!P wanted her to have the "single" image, they all decided it was best she left Momusu. She pinned it on something like "it's time to move on" in her last interview, though.

Hmmn... I read on a MM forum and some people said that she had done this in purpose. She wanna leave MM (or the upfront management?) to move on... that's why she let the paparazzi took the pictures.. I dunno..

walking proud · #37 10th February 2006, 04:13 PM

I think that she deserves the same treatment as everyone else in Japan, but suspension is a bit far....

andre2907 · #38 10th February 2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by walking proud

Note: In Japan, the legal smoking age is 20.

ROFL. 20?! It's scary how in Japan you see many many 12-14 year old smoking. REALLY young kids smoking, lots and lots of them. Even in schools you can see Jr. High students smoking. It's quite surprising the legal age there is 20.

Plus, I think it's true, this girls aren't allowed to live!! Geez, she's 18, she made a mistake, why is she being fired? It's not like you can't see underage kids in Japan smoking in almost every corner and public place. And WTF, Mari Yaguchi being fired because she was IN A SUPERMARKET WITH A GUY? Please, give me a break! And Ami Suzuki being blackmailed? In US, younger celebrities do much worst things and nothing happen to them..

superdonut · #39 10th February 2006, 06:10 PM

Hmm... I think they are being a little harsh... probably because where I'm from, so many young kids smoke. To me, I just think it's stupid, but if you want to do it to yourself... go ahead... ^^; I never really thought about it, but I suppose idols do have to be pure... so smoking, no boyfriends... but they are human...

Also... Ai is suspended... does that mean that she'll come back? Because, even though she was a bit stupid in smoking (and getting caught... haha ^^ ) I really like her...

#40 10th February 2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bluegie

Hmmn... I read on a MM forum and some people said that she had done this in purpose. She wanna leave MM (or the upfront management?) to move on... that's why she let the paparazzi took the pictures.. I dunno..

Regarding Mari, I think that's just hate talk because a lot of her (former) fans started booing her at appearances because after her leave from MM, she was getting more on-air time by herself. From the clips I've seen, Mari was genuinely upset about leaving and there's a possibility that she was pressured to make an announcement since she is an idol.

As for Kago, I think she's adorable but breaking the law is and should be punishable. The suspension isn't surprising (tons of idols get suspended for one reason or another, look at the recent NewS debacle, although that is more serious) and I doubt that it will affect her career in H!P. She'll probably bounce back after months of not working because Tsunku does keep the girls in the family even after a scandal.