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Old 9th February 2006, 08:50 PM
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Teen smoking is a big problem everywhere. Tsunku should take the stick out of his butt and let her stay.
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Old 9th February 2006, 09:03 PM
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Perhaps she's doing it to loose weight and become as thin as the second half of W.
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Old 9th February 2006, 09:29 PM
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Teen smoking is a big problem everywhere. Tsunku should take the stick out of his butt and let her stay.
Are they supposed to throw out all their standards because this girl thinks she is too good for the rules? No doubt she knew what the consequences could be. I don't understand why you guys feel sorry for her.
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Old 9th February 2006, 09:36 PM
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Are they supposed to throw out all their standards because this girl thinks she is too good for the rules? No doubt she knew what the consequences could be. I don't understand why you guys feel sorry for her.
Their rules are ridiculous, these girls aren't allowed to live.
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Old 9th February 2006, 09:37 PM
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Their rules are ridiculous, these girls aren't allowed to live.
You can live without smoking. That law applies to every 18 yr old in Japan, not just Hello! Project members.
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Old 9th February 2006, 10:47 PM
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You can live without smoking. That law applies to every 18 yr old in Japan, not just Hello! Project members.
And what about Mari Yaguchi dating?
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Old 9th February 2006, 11:21 PM
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ai kago doesn't look like someone who could smoke or do that... >___<"
what happent o her... she's over now... danger danger!
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Old 10th February 2006, 08:13 PM
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You can live without smoking. That law applies to every 18 yr old in Japan, not just Hello! Project members.
Yes, but the problem is that law is almost never enforced. I would say at least 50% of underage highschoolers in Japan smoke. Japan is a smoking country, it doesn't have the same negative stigma to it that is attached to it in the US and some other countries. Only now are they starting to get a little bit more smoking conscious. The only reason Kago is getting in trouble for this is because she is an "idol." Which is one of the many reasons why I'm glad Ayu got out of that business.

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She probably got fined by the ones that caught her .
No she didn't. Law enforcement or any legalities have not gotten involved at all. The only people making a big deal out of this is her own Agency and the crazy fan boys.

She is an 18 year old girl who made a mistake and had a cigarette. She does not in any way deserve the way she is being treated now. W's album and single have even been cancelled. I'm thinking there might be something else going on behind the scenes for Up Front Agency to be having this big of a reaction. (It's primarily them that make these decisions, not Tsunku as far as I know.)

In short, cut the girl some slack. She is allowed to have a rebellious streak at her age - if she didn't, she would be sub-human. Let these girls live and make their mistakes.

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I think that she deserves the same treatment as everyone else in Japan, but suspension is a bit far....
If she got the same treatment as a normal person in Japan, nothing would happen to her. After having lived in Japan, trust me, most people consider this law a joke. It was created in 1900(!). I've seen teens smoke all the time on school grounds, with teachers around and the most anyone ever does is tell them to put it out.(but even that is rare, usually because the teachers themselves are smokers^_^)

And of COURSE Kago knows smoking is bad for you. But smoking isn't the problem, it is the symptom of a problem. Her just quitting smoking won't solve the original problem be it stress or weight issues or what not. I personally believe she started smoking a few months ago because you saw her slim down a bit. You'd be suprised how many girls take up smoking to lose weight rather than dieting because it is a quick fix. And really, with the amount of pressure that there is to be petite in Japan(even more so than the US), I can understand the reasons why she would. Not that it is right, but I can put myself in someone elses shoes and understand.

Obviously I'm passionate about this subject. It just bugs me that so many "fans" can be so devoted to these girls, but the second that they make any sort of mistake people turn their backs on them. They really aren't allowed to make mistakes and be human.

As I've said before, I think the whole idol industry needs a major change because as it is now I think any psychologist would tell you it is emotionally and mentally unhealthy for the girls in the long run. Mari had the right idea to get out.

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Old 10th February 2006, 11:40 PM
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You can live without smoking. That law applies to every 18 yr old in Japan, not just Hello! Project members.
I unfortunately have to agree. It is a ridiculous rule, of course, but it is a rule that must be obeyed. While underage smoking is a problem everywhere, Ai also had to realize that smoking is against the rules of H!P. As we all know, they can't do lots of things. If they appear "tainted," then 50 year old men won't be as willing to pleasure themselves thinking about the girls. And that is the most important thing about H!P (for the people in charge at least).

As sad as it is, those girls sign away their souls when they join, and if they break a rule, punishment must be enforced.
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Old 12th February 2006, 02:57 AM
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Ai Kago you serious? Looks can be deceiving, man she's so cute. Heh
good on her for smoking, and underage too. Bad ass chic.
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Old 12th February 2006, 07:05 AM
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You can live without smoking. That law applies to every 18 yr old in Japan, not just Hello! Project members.
i agree... at first when i heard she was getting in trouble, i thought it was silly. but then i realised that in japan, it's not until you turn 20 (and considered an adult...they even have a special day celebrating all 20 year olds once a year!) that you can do things like smoke, drink, drive, vote, etc. i don't see why people are getting angry with tsunku and the upfront agency... it's not as though they are doing anything outlandish, more like following the laws and making a point to show people everywhere that idols are NOT above the law. also, if it is a direct violation of the agency's contract with said idol (which i heard, in this case, it is), then that's also something that they are allowed to take action against. and no one is forced kago to sign that contract, she did it out of her free will (as we know it anyways), so if she agrees to the terms, she has to follow them. I'm not anti-kago by any means, i love her and will be sad to not see her around for a while... but i mean, rules and rules, and they are created for a reason - to be followed, not to be broken.
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Old 13th February 2006, 11:58 PM
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Thats to bad. Ai's my fave member of MM. I bet she feels bad though getting in trouble over something like that. I'm very supprised though. Those outfits looks so cute.
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Old 10th February 2006, 02:29 AM
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Their rules are ridiculous, these girls aren't allowed to live.
Are you kidding me? Smoking basically means you have a huge chance to, well, die. Smoking is not "cool" and should be taken seriously. Especially when you're still young.
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Old 9th February 2006, 10:29 PM
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it's not tsunku's fault kago was caught.
anyways, it's ufa that makes the rules.
kago was dumb enough to get caught, she needs to deal with the consequences.
she knows what she can and cannot do. it's no one's fault but hers.
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Old 9th February 2006, 10:37 PM
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Yup. It was her fault she decided to pick up smoking and got caught. She knows that she's underage, yet she still decides to do it. She's got to live with the concequences. But with H!P suspending her is too far. She probably got fined by the ones that caught her .. but that's really REALLY too far. Not many follow smoking and drinking rules in Japan (and anywhere else.. ), but Japan has to crack down on the cigarettes & alcohol in vending machines and need to card people.

I hear one can just go into a store and buy alcohol without an ID.
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Old 9th February 2006, 10:40 PM
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Guys how are you even sorry? Her suspension was a great thing and I hope they won't be easy on her just because she's famous. If in Japan it is against law to smoke underage, then why break the laws?
I hope the suspension will make the girl think about the consequences of smoking. I also hope this will serve as a lesson to other japanese people since she's famous and the news are probably widespread by now.
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Old 9th February 2006, 10:46 PM
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I think Mari was caught with a guy or something. Not sure.

I think that suspending her was wayyyyy overboard. Look, singers/actors are 'role models,' but I feel they aren't because, they are normal people as well and are human. They make mistakes and pay for them in the end. They live and learn.

It's like saying celebrities in America or any place else isn't banned from acting if they get accuations of doing drugs.
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Old 9th February 2006, 11:28 PM
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I think Mari was caught with a guy or something. Not sure.

I think that suspending her was wayyyyy overboard. Look, singers/actors are 'role models,' but I feel they aren't because, they are normal people as well and are human. They make mistakes and pay for them in the end. They live and learn.

It's like saying celebrities in America or any place else isn't banned from acting if they get accuations of doing drugs.
She commited a crime. Some people actually get fired from certain jobs when they become criminals. It's not overreaction, we should be gkad she was only suspended. Plus do we even know what was written in the terms when she signed in for the job? The terms were probably clear enough that she should stay away from problem. Since she's underage the company could get sued by the family accusing the company for the fact the girl ended up starting smoking. It was more than fair and definitely not an overreaction. (what if the other Hello! Project! girls parents get worried about their underaged daugthers working along people who break laws such as Ai and decide that their children shouldn't work for the company anymore? There are way too many issues that could justify the reason for her suspension. It was not random.)
And yep, I agree she's just like normal people. Normal people could get fired or suspended from their jobs for breaking laws so the same things should stick to artists.
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Old 9th February 2006, 11:05 PM
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idols have different rules than just a singer or actor/actress. they are supposed to be pure and innocent.

kago getting suspended, imo, isn't that big of a deal. it's just a road she has to take and hopefully she realizes if she's gonna smoke, she'll do it in the privacy of her own home.

and mari knew she wasn't allowed to have a boyfriend. again, it's the rule of an idol and she KNEW that. at least, if she was gonna have a boyfriend, try harder not to get caught.
she had lied to her company earlier and said she didn't have a boyfriend when asked. it's better to come clean then to end up getting caught.

it's just what comes along with being an idol. you go into the industry, no matter what you have an image you HAVE to uphold.
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Old 9th February 2006, 11:35 PM
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Its illegal for minors to buy cigarettes in my state, but not to smoke them.
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