[2006] Black Cherry vs. Secret (oh yes, I went there!)

[Kodayumi]

Secret.

Black cherry is not bad, but when it is to be compared with Secret. It loses.

[thinkingoutloud89]

I cna´t belive you did it...I hoped nobody in ehre would be THAT STUPID! you are horrid XD I´ll never vote for this...

[freedreamer]

Ku's album aint bad..its fresh, Get Up&Move!!! & PUPPY are my fav new songs...because they are upbeat..something Ayu doesnt always do..these r&b stuff...

Ku's rock is definetely not as gd as Ayu's.

Ballads wise..both are gd and bad pts. Ayu's wan lack bridge and her ballads this time round are calmer but somewhat powerful too. Ku's vocals aint that gd on her ballads but still acceptable to be (ballads i mean Yume no Uta & Unmei..the rest mehh)

Ku has more variety which makes the album not flow well..Ayu has a focused album and flows well. Ku overuses Eng in her songs and AYu has a just right amt..

BUT ku's album didnt really disappoint me though i was looking forward to it because i really like most of the single tracks...but those tracks i dont like..forget them...it will make both albums just as awesome...

Hence, going by the number of MEMORABLE tracks, Secret WINS

[omgpeachsnapple]

Secret. Black Cherry was such a disappointment, as much of a Kumi fan as I am.

[ayu_fan929]

Black Cherry by a bit. Secret's album tracks were pretty good but I felt that there was a "umph" factor in BC that wasn't in Secret.

[wenjing1688]

Of course SECRET!
Black Cherry has some good track. 1 or 2, but then, the other, since were released in her singles, and which I didn't like that much, so actually, there's not much songs that I live from Kuu's new album.
But SCRET is soo good!! I like it a lot!

[ImpactBreaker]

Wow, one thing I have learned in life is, experiment the things on your own instead of just passively listening to others. By reading the coments about Black Cherry, I was indeed expecting a totally awful album. I was actually scared to listening to the WON'T BE LONG Black Cherry Ver. That song actually doesn't sound a quarter bad as some of the comments make it sound. I kinda like it, and it's "urban" feel (a la "Heat" and "JUICY") does a good follow up for JUICY. I've learned to like the 4 HOT WAVE songs, specially "I'll be there".
And c'mon this album has the best song released in 2006: "koi no tsubomi", I just love that song to death! This album already gets a 10 from me just because it has that song, no matter how much the others might suck heh.

Not saying this album is the better than Secret (I only still listened to it up to track 12), but I sincerely hope you guys didn't first listen to this album (BLACK CHERRY) directly comparing it to ayu's Secret as that would be kinda stupid. Both albums sound so different. I don't critize comparing both, just hoping no one listened to BLACK CHERRY for the first time directly comparing it to ayu's Secret.

[MsMiyabi]

AHHHH! My worst nightmare. .........Black Cherry I guess. MY head hurts ******* I don't know.

[Rickumi]

I don't critize comparing both, just hoping no one listened to BLACK CHERRY for the first time directly comparing it to ayu's Secret.



That´s not fair. It´s not like they sing the same kind of music to compare. Ayu´s Secret is just a pack of updated songs such as Evolution, M, Independent, (Carols - moments - no way to say)

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[~X2RADialbomber~]

I know I voted for Secret, but I bet half the people who did vote for Secret hadn't even listened to Black Cherry.

[ImpactBreaker]

Twinkle Twinkle, Uh Uh La La Lai!

Originally Posted by Rickumi

That´s not fair. It´s not like they sing the same kind of music to compare. Ayu´s Secret is just a pack of updated songs such as Evolution, M, Independent, (Carols - moments - no way to say)

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I know it's not fair. Both albums are very different. The comparisons would be made anyway
Also, you complain, but you're comparing. Some of the songs in BLACK CHERRY were upgrades too. The INTRODUCTION sounds like all her other introductions. Get Up&Move!! has elements of both Candy and JUICY. unmei is an upgrade of Gentle Words. Both albums are EVEN in that aspect.


RANDDOM:
It's it me or does koda say "C'mon twinkle, why don't you crap your hands"!??????????????

Catchy song LOL

[s1012h]

^exactly what i said about the whole "inevitable" part
it's just what it is
it's not as if one person can be like "STOP COMPARING AYU TO KODA", and then everyone will listen and stop
it's been going on ever since the beginning of 2006.
yes they have different styles of music, but they're both similar to the fact that they're two of the biggest Japanese music acts in the world.
a title like that is bound to cause some comparison.

but anyway
I actually listened to Black Cherry alot of times, but it still didn't click for me
Secret just clicked the moment I heard Not yet, and continued to please until the final song

[Rickumi]

Both are good on it´s own way

I said ayu did a pack of upgrades but it was not an offence. Kumi did that too. Its their style of song.... It´s not gonna change too much from what we aready know so.....

u know what

I really wanna hear ayu and kuu singin together.
and yes, she sings "crap your hands" ¬¬ poor girl lol

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by Rickumi

I really wanna hear ayu and kuu singin together.
and yes, she sings "crap your hands" ¬¬ poor girl lol

another song+nation? hehe It would be interesting! But I have the feeling theoir vocals would clash LOL But I'd definitely like to see that, and alsO:

mflo loves ayumi hamasaki
mflo loves Koda Kumi

c'mon, they loved BoA, why can't they love the queens?

[Rickumi]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

another song+nation? hehe It would be interesting! But I have the feeling theoir vocals would clash LOL But I'd definitely like to see that, and alsO:

mflo loves ayumi hamasaki
mflo loves Koda Kumi

c'mon, they loved BoA, why can't they love the queens?

i love u lol
" why can't they love the queens?" lol
yeaaah

I dunno if a song+nation would work..... too much fancy...lol
maybe a comemorative single..... Pick an Ayu song to Kumi, and a Kuu song for Ayumi. would be cool.
I´d like to see koda´s Real me.....lol
And Ayu´s Yume no Uta.

[Keishi]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

no one listened to BLACK CHERRY for the first time directly comparing it to ayu's Secret.

Too bad. Considering this is an Ayu forum, you can expect a giant amount of votes on Secret. Both albums may be great to each of the fans. Secret may appeal much to Pop-Rock lover Ayumi Hamasaki fans. While Black Cherry may appeal much to Urban R&B Pop Koda Kumi fans. You can expect a lot of bad reviews from this forum, why? Because majority is Ayumi Hamasaki fans. Who OF COURSE prefer Secret. They have to ensure their queen have most votes. (And also, because their musical preference is of course, Ayumi Hamasaki)



Check out Honey Flash's thread about Black Cherry.
http://honeyflash.cloudwalking.net/v...id=2151&page=1

You can see how impressed those Koda Kumi fans with Black Cherry. Because their musical preferences are to Koda. If we put similar poll, I'm sure Black Cherry will conquer Secret.





So...........an accurate poll comparing J-Pop artist, shouldn't be done in any specific artist forum. Where's the fairness in that?
Poll like this should be going on general jpop forum. Not in Hamasaki Ayumi forum.








Just my two cents.

[ImpactBreaker]

Well, I don't like these comparisons either. But some people here have listened with proper attention to both albums and given an honest opinion. Just because the majority won't bother to make it proper, doesn't mean everyone will do so

[ll moments ll]

i actually like "Black Cherry". :] i wasn't expecting much, but it turned out great! same thing happened to me with Ayu's "Secret" too, LOL. both have their stand out tracks ("Get Up&Move!!" and "kiss o' kill") and not so good ones ("With your smile" & "Beautiful Fighters").

i choose "Secret" though. it had a stronger "WOW" factor to me. most of the songs off "Black Cherry" were released as singles! i think it would've been better if "Cherry Girl/Unmei" wasn't released prior. the album would've been more "fresh".

but i think i like both albums quite equally.

[LacusClyne]

Originally Posted by Keishi

Too bad. Considering this is an Ayu forum, you can expect a giant amount of votes on Secret. Both albums may be great to each of the fans. Secret may appeal much to Pop-Rock lover Ayumi Hamasaki fans. While Black Cherry may appeal much to Urban R&B Pop Koda Kumi fans. You can expect a lot of bad reviews from this forum, why? Because majority is Ayumi Hamasaki fans. Who OF COURSE prefer Secret. They have to ensure their queen have most votes. (And also, because their musical preference is of course, Ayumi Hamasaki)



Check out Honey Flash's thread about Black Cherry.
http://honeyflash.cloudwalking.net/v...id=2151&page=1

You can see how impressed those Koda Kumi fans with Black Cherry. Because their musical preferences are to Koda. If we put similar poll, I'm sure Black Cherry will conquer Secret.

So...........an accurate poll comparing J-Pop artist, shouldn't be done in any specific artist forum. Where's the fairness in that?
Poll like this should be going on general jpop forum. Not in Hamasaki Ayumi forum.

you're right. someone should really start this thread in jpopsuki or other forum, then we shall see the result.

anyway, lucky i did not have my hopes too high for black cherry, i'm most intereted to see the drama more then anything, so i find the album not bad.
i had already like 'koi no tsubomi', 'With Your Smile', I'll be there', 'Ningyo hime', 'Unmei', 'Cherry Girl'. 'Won't be Long just sound weird without EXILE while 'Twinkle' could be better with kuu's pronouce. i don't think i will understand it if i don't have the lyrics!!!!! from the album track, i love 'Get Up & Move', the others i still have to get another listen.

while ayu's Secret, i had like all 4 single tracks. then, i was hooked to the whole album with all the album tracks too. ayu's vocals is stronger and better, i was very impressed that 'Secret' was recorded in a take!!!!!

overall, i'll vote for Secret.

[LacusClyne]

Originally Posted by Keishi

Too bad. Considering this is an Ayu forum, you can expect a giant amount of votes on Secret. Both albums may be great to each of the fans. Secret may appeal much to Pop-Rock lover Ayumi Hamasaki fans. While Black Cherry may appeal much to Urban R&B Pop Koda Kumi fans. You can expect a lot of bad reviews from this forum, why? Because majority is Ayumi Hamasaki fans. Who OF COURSE prefer Secret. They have to ensure their queen have most votes. (And also, because their musical preference is of course, Ayumi Hamasaki)



Check out Honey Flash's thread about Black Cherry.
http://honeyflash.cloudwalking.net/v...id=2151&page=1

You can see how impressed those Koda Kumi fans with Black Cherry. Because their musical preferences are to Koda. If we put similar poll, I'm sure Black Cherry will conquer Secret.

So...........an accurate poll comparing J-Pop artist, shouldn't be done in any specific artist forum. Where's the fairness in that?
Poll like this should be going on general jpop forum. Not in Hamasaki Ayumi forum.

you're right. someone should really start this thread in jpopsuki or other forum, then we shall see the result.

anyway, lucky i did not have my hopes too high for black cherry, i'm most interested to see the drama more then anything, so i find the album not bad.
i had already like 'koi no tsubomi', 'With Your Smile', I'll be there', 'Ningyo hime', 'Unmei', 'Cherry Girl'. 'Won't be Long just sound weird without EXILE while 'Twinkle' could be better with kuu's pronouce. i don't think i will understand it if i don't have the lyrics!!!!! from the album track, i love 'Get Up & Move', the others i still have to get another listen.

while ayu's Secret, i had like all 4 single tracks. then, i was hooked to the whole album with all the album tracks too. ayu's vocals is stronger and better, i was very impressed that 'Secret' was recorded in a take!!!!!

overall, i'll vote for Secret.