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Old 20th June 2008, 07:32 AM
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LOL, what a stupid reason to not put Ayu in a CM



Serious, get over it Japan.
That's what we think outside of Japan, but my boyfriend who is from Japan even said that it was a pretty bad offense by Japanese culture standards. It wasn't so much the thing that she said, but the way that she said them which was considered very crude.

I'm glad that Ayu is at least not in the top 5!
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Old 25th June 2008, 06:11 PM
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LOL, what a stupid reason to not put Ayu in a CM



Serious, get over it Japan.

So true
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Old 19th June 2008, 11:10 AM
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Old 19th June 2008, 11:17 AM
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I don't think the survey is "mean". it's just honest. their answer does not mean they don't want Ayu because she's deaf, the reason why they don't want her is because they are worried that she'll distract people from the actual product with people worrying about her condition.

it's not a big deal, most companies won't be able to afford Ayu anyways. and only top level brands use Ayu so they don't have to worry about overshadowing their product.

I wonder tho, will Ayu ever endorse panasonic audio products now that she has the ear problem? she used to do those MD & stereo commercials for panasonic too, all she now does are for lumix.
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Old 19th June 2008, 05:51 PM
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I don't think the survey is "mean". it's just honest. their answer does not mean they don't want Ayu because she's deaf, the reason why they don't want her is because they are worried that she'll distract people from the actual product with people worrying about her condition.
I agree with you =P
Don't think this survey is that bad.. And it's funny to see Koda up there lol Japan doesn't forget things easily =____=
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Old 19th June 2008, 09:46 PM
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I don't think the survey is "mean". it's just honest. their answer does not mean they don't want Ayu because she's deaf, the reason why they don't want her is because they are worried that she'll distract people from the actual product with people worrying about her condition.

it's not a big deal, most companies won't be able to afford Ayu anyways. and only top level brands use Ayu so they don't have to worry about overshadowing their product.

I wonder tho, will Ayu ever endorse panasonic audio products now that she has the ear problem? she used to do those MD & stereo commercials for panasonic too, all she now does are for lumix.
Very well said. Guys, CMs are BUSINESS! Not charity. I wonder why people mix up both This poll is not lame, lame is people complaining about it LOL Obviously there has got to be a reason for ayu to not be wanted on CMs as much anymoree. She doesn't make as many CMs as she did back then. And also, as Halla pointed the interesting question, yeah, I don't think she'll be doing the panasonic audio advertisements anymore.


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O.O i don't know what to say...isn't that discrimination against disability?
Turn on the tv and start watching the commeecials. How many people with disability, paraplegic, blind, deaf, etc do you see on commercial that aren't advertising health products? Almost none. How many people look great and healthy? Many. Is there a reason for it? Obviously. Marketing works with image. They want to give you the feeling that you can look healthy, vigorous and awesome if you buy a certain product. Just imagine someone like Amy Winehouse? Do you think companies would like her to advertise their products? i think se's highly unsuited, mainly because of her image and health problems. Again, marketing is business, not charity and compassion work.

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Even then, I don't agree with that because I think it's false since people don't feel uneasy nor concern when they see Ayu.
Have you made an interview with japanese people to draw that conclusion? If not, you're kinda jumping to a conclusion here. Also, wasn't there a presentation ayu made in one of her concerts in which she was constantly adjusting her left ear headphone and people were getting really uneasy and concerned about it? I believe I read something about that somewhere.


Even if this happens to be fake or w/e, the reasons seem pretty reasonabe imo.
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Very well said. Guys, CMs are BUSINESS! Not charity. I wonder why people mix up both This poll is not lame, lame is people complaining about it LOL Obviously there has got to be a reason for ayu to not be wanted on CMs as much anymoree. She doesn't make as many CMs as she did back then. And also, as Halla pointed the interesting question, yeah, I don't think she'll be doing the panasonic audio advertisements anymore.
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Turn on the tv and start watching the commeecials. How many people with disability, paraplegic, blind, deaf, etc do you see on commercial that aren't advertising health products? Almost none. How many people look great and healthy? Many. Is there a reason for it? Obviously. Marketing works with image. They want to give you the feeling that you can look healthy, vigorous and awesome if you buy a certain product. Just imagine someone like Amy Winehouse? Do you think companies would like her to advertise their products? i think se's highly unsuited, mainly because of her image and health problems. Again, marketing is business, not charity and compassion work.
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Have you made an interview with japanese people to draw that conclusion? If not, you're kinda jumping to a conclusion here. Also, wasn't there a presentation ayu made in one of her concerts in which she was constantly adjusting her left ear headphone and people were getting really uneasy and concerned about it? I believe I read something about that somewhere.


Even if this happens to be fake or w/e, the reasons seem pretty reasonabe imo.
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Old 20th June 2008, 11:23 PM
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I don't think the survey is "mean". it's just honest. their answer does not mean they don't want Ayu because she's deaf, the reason why they don't want her is because they are worried that she'll distract people from the actual product with people worrying about her condition.

it's not a big deal, most companies won't be able to afford Ayu anyways. and only top level brands use Ayu so they don't have to worry about overshadowing their product.

I wonder tho, will Ayu ever endorse panasonic audio products now that she has the ear problem? she used to do those MD & stereo commercials for panasonic too, all she now does are for lumix.
I agree with this.


And regarding Koda, I'm sure she would've been up there no matter what, she doesen't photo very well and she cannot change that.

Of course anything that gets to the public eye will make a spokes person more or less valuable for a company. A spokes person is a commodity, not a person with feelings in this context, just like a foot ball player.

In sales everything counts. Certain products women sell better to men and vice versa or the other way around. It may sound sexist in some context and it may change over time as culture changes. Why doesen't a braid afro-beauty slon on the corner here use caucasian women in their ads? because they want to attract an african audience and putting out somehing else would hurt sales.

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Old 22nd June 2008, 07:43 AM
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I wonder tho, will Ayu ever endorse panasonic audio products now that she has the ear problem? she used to do those MD & stereo commercials for panasonic too, all she now does are for lumix.
I really hope she'll continue to do CMs for lumix. At least in the case of audio products, it would make some sense that the company wouldn't use her for them.
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Old 19th June 2008, 11:28 AM
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She also had the D-snap audio promotion... there just wasn't a song attached to it. Something with her floating in a blue dress. :O
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Old 19th June 2008, 11:40 AM
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O.O i don't know what to say...isn't that discrimination against disability?
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Old 19th June 2008, 11:40 AM
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lol this is so lame that other's are being affected by ayu's deafness more than ayu herself.
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Old 19th June 2008, 12:29 PM
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how on earth Dewi Soekarno is on the list too???hahahaha..
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it's really a weird survey
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hahaha laaaame whatever xD thanks for the info.

I think (maybe) it's because when people see ayu on tv, instead of talking about the item she's promoting, they'll be talking about her deafness. i dont think it's because her deafness is being discriminated against, rather it's something people will talk about instead of the product. i asume they want "problem free" people haha. so if it's that reasoning, i guess it's ok if she's on the list.
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You know, I'm surprised ERIKA isn't on this list. D:
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Old 19th June 2008, 12:56 PM
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She's probably above the list. LOL [aka, she doesn't have to be listed. It's implied. ]~
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Old 19th June 2008, 01:02 PM
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'Hamasaki Ayumi, because her physical condition gives cause for uneasiness and concern.'
Huh?


ahaha Wada Akiko #6? LOL
She deserved the #1!! xD
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Old 19th June 2008, 01:10 PM
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i dont think her deafness can affect for CM or sales
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Old 19th June 2008, 01:29 PM
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To clarify, the reason is not about her deafness directly but for the possible uneasiness and concern due to the deafness. Even then, I don't agree with that because I think it's false since people don't feel uneasy nor concern when they see Ayu. Might as well leave her out of A-nation '08 since she might cause uneasiness and concern there. The real reason is she's expensive or has other things to do. Actually I wanted her to be number 1 where the reason is that she's expensive, because I think it would be funny.
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hmmm... at least itz cuz of her ear and not cuz ppl dislike her
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