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Old 6th July 2008, 09:10 AM
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Oh, WONDERLAND was composed by CREA? Never knew that, haha.
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Old 6th July 2008, 09:11 AM
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Oh, WONDERLAND was composed by CREA? Never knew that, haha.
Composed and arranged.

Kind of surprising, but it's so simplistic. :p
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Old 6th July 2008, 09:12 AM
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Oh, WONDERLAND was composed by CREA? Never knew that, haha.
haha

I'm guessing you don't have the hard copy of MY STORY , Jacky ?

If not you would have known about it
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Old 6th July 2008, 09:18 AM
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Well, prior to GUILTY, she'd broken up with Nagase, and after coming back from the initial recording sessions, her aneki had passed away, so I imagine there were some sort of feelings there. Do you think she wasn't feeling anything at the time? D:

I mean, I never said I knew what she was feeling, just that there were obviously feelings that could've produced something. D:
Lots of people have feelings, but they just don't create music off them.

I believe, she feels a bit different than just "normal" feelings when she gets the inspiration to compose a song herself. Unless of course like with M, her composers sucked at conveying her message properly.
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Old 6th July 2008, 09:20 AM
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Well, prior to GUILTY, she'd broken up with Nagase, and after coming back from the initial recording sessions, her aneki had passed away, so I imagine there were some sort of feelings there. Do you think she wasn't feeling anything at the time? D:

I mean, I never said I knew what she was feeling, just that there were obviously feelings that could've produced something. D:
You don't know how she's feeling, but she obviously has feelings that can produce something?

Her break up with Nagase was on good terms if I remember. Ayumi has gone through a lot of things in her life, so she's feeling things all the time. Maybe she just likes writing lyrics more than composing? Or maybe she likes her composers and trusts them to do something good? I'm sure if she really wanted to compose something, she would.

But to say the feelings were there and ready for a masterpiece? I don't know about that.
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Okay, fine. She had no feelings before GUILTY. No feelings at all! Is that what you want me to say? Are you happy now? D:

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Ayu seems to also have sensed the major differences of this album from the others. We had felt something has been created in an inspiring way. For AYU who is going to be celebrating her 10-year-old career in 2008, What kind of an existance of the album "GUILTY" is to you?

You can say that it is a miracle. There's virtually no inspiration at all at the time of composing this album from the start. Frankly speaking, I really didn't have much energy to create a new album in the year 2007. There is no meaning at all if I force myself to squeeze out something even if I can't do that. I was thinking that it is better off doing the album in a laid-back attitude, because it would make everyone unhappy, and do no good to myself should I bulldoze it, it's true.
No inspiration at all. :|
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Old 6th July 2008, 09:35 AM
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Well no wonder I hate that album then
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Maybe she's taking a break,or refreshing her ideas?
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Well, it seems like she started composing because she felt a little frustrated that the songs didn't quite fit with her vision when others did them - I think something about M in its early stages didn't sync up with how she saw it? Or was that evolution...

Either way, she must be happy with the compositions others give her and how they 'fit', so she probably doesn't feel compelled to try her hand at it anymore. Though she did compose a few songs on MY STORY. Granted that was 3 albums ago, but still lol.

Since Ayu didn't go to any sort of musical school and has admitted that she lacks that knowledge I think it's a little harder for her to do it than some of us might think. I do hope she goes back to it, even if it's just a song or two. I'd love to hear whatever she can come up with for her next record
i agree. for the case of M, ayu composed it because none of the melodies had the "feel" so probably ayu will only write her own melodies when the composers didnt provide her with any melodies that has the "feel".

but since that case, ayu might as well compose every song herself since every song she compose herself will have the "feel".
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Old 6th July 2008, 03:49 PM
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Oh, but don't forget that she had one composition after My Story - Will! (Yeah, it's Crea + DAI, which means we don't know how much Crea is really in there, but still...) I love that song, even if it is simplistic.
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I personally think she has too much work to do and doesnt have time to write lyrics.(afterall, it's not easy) subtracting, recording, magazine, cm, promotion, concert, preparation, and stuff. i don't even think she'll have to time to sit down for a tea XD
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I personally think she has too much work to do and doesnt have time to write lyrics.(afterall, it's not easy) subtracting, recording, magazine, cm, promotion, concert, preparation, and stuff. i don't even think she'll have to time to sit down for a tea XD
Agree. I remember reading something maybe a interview translation and Ayu said that during composing NEVER EVER she became so exhausted she just started crying.
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IMO Ayu doesn't really have a musical background from an early age, so I think she really started to compose out of need rather than skill. Like Evolusean said, in the beginning she might have tons of inspiration and after those dried out I guess a composer have to rely more on training and skills which while Ayu might have accumulated some during her career she still lacks the foundation built from a very early age (like say, Otsuka Ai, who started playing piano at 3).
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Old 8th July 2008, 08:34 AM
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I felt really bad when she never compose her very own songs like on I Am... days.
Her very own composed songs are much better and really good to listen.
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Guess i should know more about this topic but as a classical musician, i don't really understand the difference between composing and arranging a modern pop song. Is composing just creating a melody for the lyrics or deciding the notes for the guitar, piano etc. to play as well? Or is instrumentation under arrangement?

What does it mean for CREA to compose say M? Just the melody for the lyrics?

As to why she doesn't compose anymore, maybe she has more creative control over her concerts and promotional efforts so she spends more time doing those stuff and leaves composing to avex producers.
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Old 8th July 2008, 09:41 AM
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Guess i should know more about this topic but as a classical musician, i don't really understand the difference between composing and arranging a modern pop song. Is composing just creating a melody for the lyrics or deciding the notes for the guitar, piano etc. to play as well? Or is instrumentation under arrangement?

What does it mean for CREA to compose say M? Just the melody for the lyrics?

As to why she doesn't compose anymore, maybe she has more creative control over her concerts and promotional efforts so she spends more time doing those stuff and leaves composing to avex producers.
Yeah composing is the melody and basic tunes of the song and arrangement is deciding how the instruments will fit and which plays what tune and what can harmoniously provide the best four minutes of the listener's life^^.
Ayu prolly just doesn't feel it often i guess. And plus, she prolly realizes that if she has people who can professionally come up with the stuff for her, and she knows she is a lot less trained, then she might as well use them. If she feels a song needs to be composed by CREA then she'd do so. But then again, it'd prolly be even harder since she's half def now. (i'm guessing she couldn't write music so she's simply hum the tunes into a machine that could translate most likely, and having one ear makes flat notes and sharps so much easier...)
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Old 8th July 2008, 02:30 PM
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Thanks =) Then i don't really see why she is not composing anymore. Maybe she just really had a lot of inspiration during i am... and rainbow. The lyrics especially for i am album are generally very intriguing. Songs like no more words, endless sorrow etc have spontaneous, whimsical lyrics to me. Also in this year's interview, i think she said something about not really having much direction with Guilty album. If you have inspiration, you would naturally already have a vision for the song so you would probably not be satisfied with third party offerings.

Maybe that's what happened for I am..., that's why so many songs were composed by her. She can't be dissatisfied with so many producers. Probably from M, she realized that if she already had a specific idea for a song, it's better to DIY.
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Personally, I don't see what was so wrong with winding road. :\

I guess the fans here and in Japan both hated it though. It was like, bottom three of songs preferred by TeamAyu. Perhaps that damaged her confidence in composing?



Humming, I understand, but wtf. The bottom 3 actual songs were also excluded from the party that was AT05 too. ;_;
See I thought Humming 7/4 was really ****in' (cursing needed lol) impressive considering how it sounds and it's not Ayu's style at ALL. D: Idk I always liked her compositions and thought winding road was pretty (even if I at first confused it with walking proud lol) but I do still agree with part of what evolusean is saying in that I think Ayu should take some time to be properly trained or educated before CREA makes another reappearance. There's only so many times a person can rely just on their creative impulses to make songs, and Ayu basically did almost two albums' worth earlier in her career..
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Old 8th July 2008, 05:52 PM
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Maybe she doesn't compose anymore because of the deafness in her left ear and lack of inspiration.
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Old 14th July 2008, 01:26 AM
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I thinks CREA is better at composing over someone else's compositions. I think that was what she did in I am because she felt some of the songs didn't work with her.
And it's a possibility that Ayu is fairly happy with the compositions that she is being given.

But who knows she could be working behind the scenes on her own stuff. Waiting for the right moment to pop out again...^-^.
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