[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~LOVE again~

[BlackSilence]

Originally Posted by ExodusUK

Sales are sooo bad..too bad, shouldn't have disrespected fans so much.

people will get over it sooner or later.... and if she does good stuff (i'm not sure if there's a word "good" in ayu's fans' dictionary) and doesn't go all blah with her pvs, i think next album should do better, not that i care for sales but..yeah xD

[harufi]

Must be a pretty dead week for music if this is so high in the charts today

[saigodansu]

If her marketing team doesn't get replaced next year looks very bleak. I really won't be surprised if part of this tour has many empty seats.

[Tony G]

Originally Posted by saigodansu

If her marketing team doesn't get replaced next year looks very bleak. I really won't be surprised if part of this tour has many empty seats.

It's safe to say that ain't gonna happen, I don't think the Maro controversey did that much damage. Avex know this is where the $$ is and they treat it accordingly. I went to her 3rd Osaka show in as many months last year and there wasn't a single empty seat. She did 6 shows in Osaka in her last tour over 6 months, and there was demand for all of them. Pretty insane for an artist who is "losing popularity".

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by Tony G

It's safe to say that ain't gonna happen, I don't think the Maro controversey did that much damage. Avex know this is where the $$ is and they treat it accordingly. I went to her 3rd Osaka show in as many months last year and there wasn't a single empty seat. She did 6 shows in Osaka in her last tour over 6 months, and there was demand for all of them. Pretty insane for an artist who is "losing popularity".

I didn't think the Maro thing was that big of a deal either, but apparently it was pretty wide spread. People who don't even follow Ayu seemed to know that "she is now with a married man who has a child". I personally don't think its anyones business and shouldn't matter, but in Japan appearance is everything it seems and this did not reflect well on her character.

Usually Ayu's shows still sell out (although yes, judging by the reseller shops, quite a few tickets end up there). I was surprised to see Avex doing promo for this tour though; usually they don't because the tickets pretty much sell themselves for her concerts so that did make me think they might be worried about ticket sales this year.

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

Even with the empy sections ayu's still ahead with Namie. (Hence why she keeps performing many dates).

Huh? How? The Best Fiction Tour alone had 64 dates all in arenas. She just performed 8 shows at Dome's. That right there surpasses the total for an entire Arena tour. Both tour a lot, but for the past several years now Namie's attendance top Ayu's and for sure DVD/bluray sales top Ayus. I don't know why that should really matter much though. People should just be happy that any female artist is making it to the top of the charts these days even if it might not be their favorite.

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Huh? How? The Best Fiction Tour alone had 64 dates all in arenas. She just performed 8 shows at Dome's. That right there surpasses the total for an entire Arena tour. Both tour a lot, but for the past several years now Namie's attendance top Ayu's and for sure DVD/bluray sales top Ayus. I don't know why that should really matter much though. People should just be happy that any female artist is making it to the top of the charts these days even if it might not be their favorite.

I meant that she and Namie have the most attendents overall, maybe I shouldn't use the word "with".

[miru2590]

Originally Posted by saigodansu

If her marketing team doesn't get replaced next year looks very bleak. I really won't be surprised if part of this tour has many empty seats.

I don't blame her Team. Is Ayumi's fault she is not selling. Instead of focusing on her career and performing she is in NY,LA etc... with Timmy having fun. If she doesn't care why should I?.

I'm sure Namie is crying all the way to the bank people can't stop talking about her. LOL

[GREENsora]

^Aw c'mon, Ayu's popularity may be slowly fading, but there's no doubt that her tours are still top notch

For all we know, her sale numbers may not reflect the number of fans, what with all the piracy and illegal downloading

[spanishfan]

Originally Posted by GREENsora

^Aw c'mon, Ayu's popularity may be slowly fading, but there's no doubt that her tours are still top notch

For all we know, her sale numbers may not reflect the number of fans, what with all the piracy and illegal downloading

Don't forget about legal download via mobile phone, iTunes and many others

so this week it'll sell about 2k~2,5k

so it'll cross 80k mark and maybe 2 weeks more to get 85k it'll probably get more than 90k, but unless touring makes sales better I don't think it'll cross 100k -_-

[GREENsora]

Originally Posted by spanishfan

Don't forget about legal download via mobile phone, iTunes and many others

That too

Do we have any current numbers on her digital sales?..

[hayasaki]

As a matter of fact, the nagoya concert has been sold out. Unfortunately, i wasn't still not able o get mine. Ayu' s selling power has been decreasing but she's now a legend that everyone knows.

[saigodansu]

Yes but sold out to resellers and scalpers is different than the arena being full the day of the concert.

[Andrenekoi]

^Concert wise, she is pretty much only behind Namie among the girls...

[AyuGAME]

^i think Ayu concert still the biggest one....

Namie sold more on DVD / Blu-ray, but not on tickets number

[Andrenekoi]

^Live Style had 32 dates... Hotel Love Songs had 28 dates... The average capacity for the arenas are 10,000, so, +-320,000 for Namie and +- 280,000 for Ayu. Not a big difference at all.^^

Even if people over here seens to believe she is a ****** performer lately, it still is considered her strongest point in Japan.

[kinix]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

^Live Style had 32 dates... Hotel Love Songs had 28 dates... The average capacity for the arenas are 10,000, so, +-320,000 for Namie and +- 280,000 for Ayu. Not a big difference at all.^^

Even if people over here seens to believe she is a ****** performer lately, it still is considered her strongest point in Japan.

Live style was 2011 no?
If so, POM have more date wise. Was it 36 tour dates for POM? And I'm pretty sure HLS wasn't just 28 dates....

[mizuki-7]

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The thing is that fans seem more worried about her sales that Ayu herself lol She is the best selling solo singer and by far !! 100K more or 100 K less copy I don't think it's a big deal for her !

And she is in NY/LA for work not for fun just for say ^^

edit: One good exemple IMO Ayu with Again (4 songs) has sold 34 K first week a lot of fans complain Ayu is definitly over, I am afraid for fututre releases etc... Kumi with Colors the cover (11 songs ?)has sold 33 K first week we don't hear the fans say anything !

[Tony G]

Originally Posted by mizuki-7

^
The thing is that fans seem more worried about her sales that Ayu herself lol She is the best selling solo singer and by far !! 100K more or 100 K less copy I don't think it's a big deal for her !

Exactly right. And even then, she scored two #1's with the 5 month campaign release. Completly unintentional with the 8th being the set date and often without even a full week of sales. This stands for something.

Tour's going to be big. "15th anniversary lives", Japan will lap them up based on her tours getting bigger and bigger every year and this being a sentimental tour controlled by the fans. She does more dates now than she's ever done in the past. Why? Demand! $$$. Sales from CDs - much less $$$ for both avex and ayu unless her albums and singles shift significant units. Remember that royalties for each CD sale go to the composers/arrangers, so LOVE again's sales aren't generating much income for either Avex or Ayu. These concerts? Much bigger slice of profit for all involved.

I wouldn't be surprised if Ayu does a more substantial 2nd leg of the tour in September/October. It's quite amazing that her tours are getting longer with more demand but sales are down.

[mizuki-7]

^Live Style had 32 dates... Hotel Love Songs had 28 dates... The average capacity for the arenas are 10,000, so, +-320,000 for Namie and +- 280,000 for Ayu. Not a big difference at all.^^

320 K for Ayu this time ^^ but it's pretty equal ! Ayu & Namie are the female singer in japan with the most attendances =) Except last year Namie was well above because she makes a dome tour !

[ayumisrael]

Even with the empy sections ayu's still ahead with Namie. (Hence why she keeps performing many dates).