[Charts & Rankings] Official Oricon Thread ~Love songs~ II

[AyumiAi]

^ we kinda got to see that when crossroad and suki de X 3 were released on the same day ayu won X)

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by adantatu2

honestly i hope that one day both release their albums the same day
it's gonna be interesting

Me too... I believe that ayu will steal the first position but kuu will sell more overall, from what's happened before.

It will also depend if they still popular and other things too. Kuu's last album Dejavu was just released in a bad time, and the album is good, but not as strong and relevant as her others.


I really hope Love songs keeps on a charting a little bit longer!

[Zeke.]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

I took almost 4 weeks to beat Ayu's 1st week It's been on charts for 5+ weeks now so it wasn't just released. It'll prolly sell a little over 200k, 210k tops.

Oh well then I am happy and also quite surprised!

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

Me too... I believe that ayu will steal the first position but kuu will sell more overall, from what's happened before.

It will also depend if they still popular and other things too. Kuu's last album Dejavu was just released in a bad time, and the album is good, but not as strong and relevant as her others.


I really hope Love songs keeps on a charting a little bit longer!

Bad time?

[roanmy]

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

Me too... I believe that ayu will steal the first position but kuu will sell more overall, from what's happened before.

It will also depend if they still popular and other things too. Kuu's last album Dejavu was just released in a bad time, and the album is good, but not as strong and relevant as her others.


I really hope Love songs keeps on a charting a little bit longer!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't 好きでx３ stop selling around 85K? Ayu was just shy of 100K.

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

Bad time?

Yeah, just before the earthquake and all that.

Originally Posted by roanmy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't 好きでx３ stop selling around 85K? Ayu was just shy of 100K.

For singles it is different. Ayu's fanbase (TeamAyu) is bigger than kuu's, which gives ayu better and more steady sales in general, or keeps some kind of average number in her sales, talking about singles.

Albums are more like, fans + other people buying, who are bigger than the number of fans buying, (the number of fans stays around the same no matter the situation. It obviously changes but not overnight). These casual listeners make the difference at the end of the day, and in the past few years more people bought kuu's albums than ayu's.

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

Yeah, just before the earthquake and all that.

The earthquake and tsunami were definitely a bad time but it didn't seem like it really affected cd sales in general.

look at how exile's album sold after the disaster and how for example, sdn48 and kara's singles do this week, so it's not really a factor.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

Yeah, just before the earthquake and all that.

The first week sales of Dejavu pretty much showed it would sell considerably less than all her previous albums. Considering what Tal said is true I'd say the natural disasters are hardly to blame Ku's popularity had yet another downfall.

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

The earthquake and tsunami were definitely a bad time but it didn't seem like it really affected cd sales in general.

look at how exile's album sold after the disaster and how for example, sdn48 and kara's singles do this week, so it's not really a factor.

Yeah, I do think that those groups do have a lot of fans though lol I'm not surprised they managed to do pretty well

[brener]

^

me too.... hehe

[Andrenekoi]

I bet Universe would sell less than RnRC if it wasn't paired with the best... and even so, the sales weren't that high...

[Nackar_91]

Exile's album would definitely have sold more without the earthquake, though. Sales drop each year and all that, plus their singles weren't as MASSIVELY succesful as in 2009, but you don't go from nearly selling 1,390,000 to around 700,000 just because of falling record sales in general. Motto Tsuyoku, VICTORY and I Wish For You especially were big enough hits to ensure a million copies.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Nackar_91

Exile's album would definitely have sold more without the earthquake, though. Sales drop each year and all that, plus their singles weren't as MASSIVELY succesful as in 2009, but you don't go from nearly selling 1,390,000 to around 700,000 just because of falling record sales in general. Motto Tsuyoku, VICTORY and I Wish For You especially were big enough hits to ensure a million copies.

Actually, yes you do.

First Love = 7.5 millions
Distance 4.5 millions;

Black Cherry = 1million,
Kingdom barely = 600+k

VALENTI = 1.3 millions
LOVE&HONESTY = 600k

**** happens

[Andrenekoi]

People underrate how stable Ayu's decrease on sales are...

[FleurRebelle]

I hope they don't do that....really

[adantatu2]

the earthquake affect the first week, right now the sales are almost the same

[Nackar_91]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Actually, yes you do.

First Love = 7.5 millions
Distance 4.5 millions;

Black Cherry = 1million,
Kingdom barely = 600+k

VALENTI = 1.3 millions
LOVE&HONESTY = 600k

**** happens

Yeah.... Making a drop from the BEST SELLING RECORD EVER to no. 4 BEST SELLING RECORD EVER is still an accomplishment. You can't keep on breaking records. Kingdom was obviously stunted because of her comment on the radio show. Its sales were relatively high and then kind of died off. The third one, well, BoA has always been dropping with huge numbers. EXILE has been extremely stable the past couple of years.

Also, no need to be so condescending, mkay? : )

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Nackar_91

Yeah.... Making a drop from the BEST SELLING RECORD EVER to no. 4 BEST SELLING RECORD EVER is still an accomplishment. You can't keep on breaking records. Kingdom was obviously stunted because of her comment on the radio show. Its sales were relatively high and then kind of died off. The third one, well, BoA has always been dropping with huge numbers. EXILE has been extremely stable the past couple of years.

Also, no need to be so condescending, mkay? : )

You're taking it all the wrong way... Nothing lasts forever, maybe EXILE's popularity dropped? I am not saying that the disasters haven't affected the sales at all, just not as much as you're making it seem.

I wasn't being condescending, but it seems that a lot of what I say comes off that way

[ayumisrael]

If the disaster would have more than small effect on cd sales (even though it didn't seem like it had any effect at all according to the general sales), then ayu's album should have stopped from charting since then

[Nackar_91]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

You're taking it all the wrong way... Nothing lasts forever, maybe EXILE's popularity dropped? I am not saying that the disasters haven't affected the sales at all, just not as much as you're making it seem.

I wasn't being condescending, but it seems that a lot of what I say comes off that way

It kind of does, but that's the internet for ya, where everything is easily misconstrued : P

I realize that, of course, their popularity could have become less. That's completely viable. The only problem is that this doesn't or barely show in their single sales, and it'd be weird if somehow their popularity dropped in between the single and the album. If all of their singles would've done less I could've expected a sudden drop. This just seems so random...

At least the Mr. Children album had a very good reason for not selling a million, what with the album being announced basically a few days in advance and there not being any single or promotion for it. But then that's Mr. Children and they can do NO wrong XD