[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~Colours~

[BlackSilence]

^ also she's an old lady so lol that's the mentality of japan....

[reixminako]

Originally Posted by calltome

It pains me to say it but... No unfortunately ayu's sales won't go up, your wrong. The reason behind ayu not sailing has nothing todo with her music. It has three names on it.
1. Manuel schwarz ( marrige plus divorce)
2. Leslie kee ( video of naked dancers plus photobook)
And the worst
Maro ( all kinds of mess)

Ohh and a side note:
Kumi won't ever sale either because of the amniotic fluid comment.

Pps:I know I'm gonna get back lash from this but please don't shot the messenger.

naked dancers video? As in ayu's dancers?

[rikku1994]

Originally Posted by calltome

It pains me to say it but... No unfortunately ayu's sales won't go up, your wrong. The reason behind ayu not sailing has nothing todo with her music. It has three names on it.
1. Manuel schwarz ( marrige plus divorce)
2. Leslie kee ( video of naked dancers plus photobook)
And the worst
Maro ( all kinds of mess)

Ohh and a side note:
Kumi won't ever sale either because of the amniotic fluid comment.

Pps:I know I'm gonna get back lash from this but please don't shot the messenger.

LOL And Erika Sawajiri gets all kinds of hate just because of the "Betsu ni" comment. Oh Japan

[hayasaki]

I think brener meant was that all info will be available on the "everything will be up" part. LOL Ya'll being too critical guys. Its really funny how active some are when it comes to pessimistic ideas. LOOOOOL

[Andrenekoi]

Ayu sales are dropping because she is old for jpop (and pop music in general) standarts. Every time someone over here meet someone from Japan and ask them what they think about Ayu, this is the reason given: She is old. Unlike Namie that wasn't on the public eyes for almost a decade, Ayu pretty much was being shoved on people's face all the time until 2010 or 2011.

Any other reason given over here is just her western fans being overly creative.

[Mr. Goto]

how does being away from the public eye make everyone forget how old you are?? her TK era will never be forgotten and she will forever be associated with that. that also didn't stop her agency from pushing the ~20th anniversary~ celebrations two years ago.

i'm not sure how she wasn't in the public eye either because during her break the rules - style era she was still constantly on high profile TV shows and had numerous CM/advertising deals. then of course by queen of hip-pop things had already started to turn around.

[brener]

Originally Posted by hayasaki

I think brener meant was that all info will be available on the "everything will be up" part. LOL Ya'll being too critical guys. Its really funny how active some are when it comes to pessimistic ideas. LOOOOOL

Exactly. And by the way I'm not answering those kinds of comments anymore, such a waste of time.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Mr. Goto

how does being away from the public eye make everyone forget how old you are?? her TK era will never be forgotten and she will forever be associated with that. that also didn't stop her agency from pushing the ~20th anniversary~ celebrations two years ago.

i'm not sure how she wasn't in the public eye either because during her break the rules - style era she was still constantly on high profile TV shows and had numerous CM/advertising deals. then of course by queen of hip-pop things had already started to turn around.

Her sales sucked, she was touring halls because she couldn't really fill arenas and she went from being on TV everyday (literaly) from getting some tie-ins here and there, she was basically a 2nd tier popstar and "has been" was constantly used to describe her back then. And I don't really get why you are talking about the 20th anni thing, that was AFTER she was back on top. Also, unlike Ayu, she had a streak of actual controverses that almost destroyed her career like the pregnancy, shotgun wedding and divorce followed by custody battle, and her mother's being killed by her uncle.

About Ayu, the longer you are around without any pause, the older people feel you are. Considering Ayu already has 15 studio albums, that her peak ended more than 10 years ago and that she was shoved down the public's throad until 2010 or so, yeah, she for sure feels way older than Namie for the teenagers that remember her being around when they were kids but that have no memories of Namie's peak because they weren't born at the time. And those are the people that really buys music, between 14 and 20 years old.

[pimenta]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Ayu sales are dropping because she is old for jpop (and pop music in general) standarts. Every time someone over here meet someone from Japan and ask them what they think about Ayu, this is the reason given: She is old. Unlike Namie that wasn't on the public eyes for almost a decade, Ayu pretty much was being shoved on people's face all the time until 2010 or 2011.

Any other reason given over here is just her western fans being overly creative.

Just wanna say that I'm in Japan for over 4 months now and every time I mentioned Ayu is my favorite singer people commented "she's really famous", seriously. Of course they're talking about her past famous status, not so much about how she is right now, because most of them don't really follow her music and know exactly what she's been releasing, but no one told me she's old or not relevant any more, because what they remember when they think about her, and therefore and told me, is how famous she is/was.

In fact, so far the only Japanese who told me he really doesn't like Ayu (he was about my age, 20-something) also said it was because his sister is Ayu's fan and she listens her songs all the time, so he can't stand Ayu's songs anymore (which I can understand, because I'm the same with my brother's favorite band that he used to listen all the time out loud), so it wasn't really a bad thing, it's just a brother x sister thing, and his sister loves Ayu

Of course I'm not saying that's how every one sees her here, maybe I'm just lucky I only met people who have no problem with her (except for the guy that had the Ayu's fan sister), but I just wanted to share my experience that is not nearly as bad as what people tend to say about the general Japanese people view of Ayu.

[LONJJONG]

3rd Week #31 with 2,922 copies sold

4th Week 1st Day #25

[maneayu]

Originally Posted by My Rainbow

Let's make #TellYoMatesBoutColours trending topic.

Girls just wanna have fun... that's all we need xD

[brener]

Must admit I was expecting more, but well, tough week..

3rd Week

Position: #31
Sales: 2,922
Total Sales: 48,339

[calltome]

Originally Posted by hayasaki

I think brener meant was that all info will be available on the "everything will be up" part. LOL Ya'll being too critical guys. Its really funny how active some are when it comes to pessimistic ideas. LOOOOOL

Yeah you're right we should all be active and unrealistily positive. Let's just all ingnore the fact and be optimistic. Let's just pretend ayu is saling millions and it's super popular!! Yaya go ayu

[Trinu]

Originally Posted by brener

Must admit I was expecting more, but well, tough week..

3rd Week

Position: #31
Sales: 2,922
Total Sales: 48,339

*sigh* Let's hope she makes it to 50k at least.

The total as of now...

Love songs 272,653
Party Queen 148,290
LOVE again 88,825
Colours 48,339

About how long she's been in the industry... gosh!
I remember I found out about her right after CAROLS was released (or right before MY STORY) and I though "I've missed so much of her!"... and now I've been following her for most of her career lol

To be honest, I wouldn't mind much if she retired for a while. But for real. And maybe come back with a (last?) bang for her 20th anniversary or something.

[My Rainbow]

Why does she have to retire? There's still people like me who like her and want her to continue. If you want her to retire, retire yourselves from being fans.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by pimenta

Just wanna say that I'm in Japan for over 4 months now and every time I mentioned Ayu is my favorite singer people commented "she's really famous", seriously. Of course they're talking about her past famous status, not so much about how she is right now, because most of them don't really follow her music and know exactly what she's been releasing, but no one told me she's old or not relevant any more, because what they remember when they think about her, and therefore and told me, is how famous she is/was.

In fact, so far the only Japanese who told me he really doesn't like Ayu (he was about my age, 20-something) also said it was because his sister is Ayu's fan and she listens her songs all the time, so he can't stand Ayu's songs anymore (which I can understand, because I'm the same with my brother's favorite band that he used to listen all the time out loud), so it wasn't really a bad thing, it's just a brother x sister thing, and his sister loves Ayu

Of course I'm not saying that's how every one sees her here, maybe I'm just lucky I only met people who have no problem with her (except for the guy that had the Ayu's fan sister), but I just wanted to share my experience that is not nearly as bad as what people tend to say about the general Japanese people view of Ayu.

Woah, that's nice! :0 Maybe people just tend to bring in the negative stuff! XD

[mi|kshake]

Why does she have to retire? There's still people like me who like her and want her to continue.

Yup, I'm always up for more Ayumi - can never get enough

[adantatu2]

Originally Posted by My Rainbow

Why does she have to retire? There's still people like me who like her and want her to continue. If you want her to retire, retire yourselves from being fans.

Amen !!!!

Now she isn't super busy like before, she is just releasing an album per year and maybe a single. She has time with her husband and she does what she likes.

[Matt_rq]

I discovered Ayu with Five so I want so much more of her. I´m buying all her discography and stuff... I don´t want her to retire.

[hayasaki]

Originally Posted by calltome

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Yeah you're right we should all be active and unrealistily positive. Let's just all ingnore the fact and be optimistic. Let's just pretend ayu is saling millions and it's super popular!! Yaya go ayu

You're funny. One doesn't even need to ignore the facts just to be positive honey. Its just some people tend to look a bottle "half full" than half empty. I hope you get that, than just being sarcastic just to fit in LOL