[Kuroki Meisa] The 7th thread ~ 2nd album UNLOCKED released on 15th Feb

[AyusakiFan]

Originally Posted by Fitst

^^^ HAHAHA!!

But really- I'm almost not even excited for the album anymore because of this. :/

As much as I hate to admit it, my excitement for the album decreased as well upon hearing this news. It makes me quite sad to be honest because I tried not to allow my feelings towards what's happening in her personal life affect my interest in her music. For me, it's turned out to be more of a negative distraction than an addition to her music though. At this point, unless the songs blow me away, I could forsee myself canceling my order for the album too.

[KarenPang]

I do admit given what has happened to Kuroki the past few days on the personal level front , this will make people forget that UNLOCKED is getting released this coming Wed

but still it's not the end of the world & she hasn't even provide an official statement that she's going to quit music if not leave the industry to focus on her impending kid

Previews in anything don't do justice to the full version of songs in any single bit . I like some & don't like some of the previews from UNLOCKED but who knows , maybe when the full album leaks out , my opinion on it will change somewhat

Also I don't like everything that Kuroki puts out & I don't have to be a mindless slave to her music , despite being a somewhat stan to her

[Utena]

My copies are in shipping progress yay ♥

[CeReSu]

I don't understand the reaction here even if I tried. Meisa and Jin have the right to love each other, to love, simply. They are famous in Japan (more for Jin) but well, they are still human like you and me!! And please, ask yourself the question: if you were a Star (singer or other) would you like to spend your whole life as a single simply because you are a Star? No, I'm sure you don't.
Jin and Meisa will continue to work as hard as they can. They are professional and you don't have the right to banish their love. On the other hand, support them and be happy for them! They deserve to be happy together!!!

This is just my opinion, please respect it, too.

I'm really looking forward to Meisa's new album on webnesday!!!

[Utena]

^ well that's probably not what all the others meant, just that seeing how Japan works, it more or less means that Meisa is pregnant -not confirmed- and if they didn't get married before that, it probably means that it was not planned. (nothing is confirmed but it's most likely to happen, just like with kuu / Leah Dizon / Ai Otsuka etc etc.. lol)

I personnaly don't care if she is with some guy or not, but seeing how this was so sudden, it's probably not for the best..

[°~Kitty~°]

Originally Posted by Utena

My copies are in shipping progress yay ♥

Where did you order your copy? I ordered mine from Yesasia and it is still stated as Preoder x_x grrrr

[niiwa]

Originally Posted by CeReSu

They are famous in Japan (more for Jin)

I agree with you but I disagree with this part. Jin used to be famous in Japan. Nowadays Japan ignore Jins to be quite honest. As a Meisa stan, I'm looking daily for Japanese people reactions through tumblr, facebook and twitter and people are mad with Meisa, not with Jin. The ones who care for Jin are delusional western fans which still living in... 2006. Meisa is much more active than Jin in the past 4 or 5 years in many areas.

Originally Posted by °~Kitty~°

Where did you order your copy? I ordered mine from Yesasia and it is still stated as Preoder x_x grrrr

I bought mine from CDJapan as well as Utena (I guess XD) and it's on shipping process as well! :3

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Well, I guess it's my time to say what I think judging all I've read until now. I'm definitively not happy for Meisa (but it's her choice and I respect this). Not because she's married, but because it's all of sudden. I've seen many Jin fans and even some of her "fans" saying bad things directed to her or even saying that they don't know if she's pregnant of Jin or not because she "dated" many guys. First of all, I'd like to say: Japanese press loves rumors about Meisa because IT SELLS. For an example, they said she was with the F1 runner, Kamui Kobayashi. It's a lie. They took a photo from Kamui with Abiru Yuu, his original girlfriend. Meisa has nothing to do with it. Japanese press sells lies, so it's up to the others to buy it or not.
I know Meisa since the beginning of 2009 and thanks to a close friend and avid Meisa stan, I got to know more about her. Not only in her profissional life but her personal as well. From what I've seen in all these years, is a hard working girl, with a bright smile to face the world, which fights since before her teenager days to be where she is. All she got is thanks to her natural talent and not only beauty as the others keeps talking. Meisa is no Meryl Streep, no Adele and no Gisele Bundchen. But she's succesful, she's a hard working girl and she deserves everything she has. So, as a fan, I feel confused and deeply sad for so many bad reactions. She don't deserve so many fingers pointed at her...
I trust in her and I'm pretty sure she will overcome it all as she did when she moved to Tokyo alone to pursue her dreams at young age. I love, admire and respect her and that's all that matters for me as a fan.

[KarenPang]

For me , I've known about her way before she started her singing career with hellcat so I could say I've been her music fan from the very beginning til now

Of course there's nothing wrong with celebrities to find love , get married & start a family but the very fact that this news took everyone by complete surprise including me , definitely there're reasons to believe as to why this came outta nowhere (again)

Let alone , I virtually had no idea Kuroki has known Akanishi for a few years before this took place & if so , both of them would have gone public about their relationship a long time ago & not doing something like this

Already everyone has seen from the other jpop ladies that when you suddenly announce your marriage to someone & with people having 0 knowledge about their other 1/2 , it's more or less safe to say they do this to say indirectly that they've a bun in the oven

With that said , both of them are already adults & not teenagers so gotta be responsible for your actions as what I would say

Would have been a lot more worst if Akanishi says that he will not take responsibility for Kuroki's (still not confirmed) pregnancy

[Mai82Go]

I also don't understand why people would not buy her music anymore just because she married and is probably pregnant? That doesn't make sense at all. But if people feel this way, it is their right to spent their own money on what they want. If they don't buy her album anymore - let them. Personally, I think after the initial shock - these are wonderful news. And she is still so young even after having this baby, at least her acting career can continue. I was always more into her singing than her acting actually - I think she is an awkward actress. But maybe Meisa is happy? Having children is not the end of the world - it is the beginning of new possibilities and it's wonderful that she and Jin found love. I agree with Ceresus post.

@niiwa
One could argue that the press around the world is like this. You make it sound like the japanese are the worst - I definitely don't think so. They seem pretty tame to me. And that Jin is done is not true. His music career is far from over. At least until these news came. Jin is a Johnnys. Loads of his appeal was being sexy and single. Playing with the thoughts of fans - that one day they might be the one. Now that suffered a heavy blow. This whole thing will probably damage him much more than Meisa. Meisa seems more serious actress to me than virginal-fanboy-magnet ála AKB48 or Johnnys.

[lanfix]

from her Facebook page

Spoiler:

[FIRSTKLAS]

Originally Posted by CeReSu

I don't understand the reaction here even if I tried. Meisa and Jin have the right to love each other, to love, simply. They are famous in Japan (more for Jin) but well, they are still human like you and me!! And please, ask yourself the question: if you were a Star (singer or other) would you like to spend your whole life as a single simply because you are a Star? No, I'm sure you don't.

Like Utena and others have said, I don't think anyone here is angry about Meisa getting involved with someone. We don't begrudge her having a personal life but we, as fans, also only want the best for her and just feel that a shotgun marriage to legitimatize a pregnancy is not a good idea.

Originally Posted by Mai82Go

I also don't understand why people would not buy her music anymore just because she married and is probably pregnant?

We're shocked about how suddenly the news happened and how it's likely going to affect her professional life.

With a new album set to be released, I think a lot of us were expecting the Meisa music train to keep chugging along as it always has. Regardless of sales, she seemed happy with what she was doing and there didn't seem to be any signs of her stopping anytime soon. Her being married and pregnant changes all of that in a major way. Unless she decides to release an official statement regarding the future of her acting and music careers (which I think is unlikely because she, herself, probably doesn't know either), we fans are going to be left in limbo for an indefinite amount of time.

It's that uncertainty that dampens our enthusiasm for the new album because it could be last thing she ever releases and the circumstances for it being that way are, at this point in time, very questionable.

[Mai82Go]

It still doesn't make sense to me. Quite the opposite. Because it might be the end of her music career she needs support for her album, especially now. And what does it matter? You buy the album because you like her music, right? Her personal circumstances don't change that fact. But I don't judge you and you guys can spent money on whatever you like. It doesn't matter either way, I'm not even that big a fan of hers. *shrugs*

[AyusakiFan]

Originally Posted by FIRSTKLAS

Like Utena and others have said, I don't think anyone here is angry about Meisa getting involved with someone. We don't begrudge her having a personal life but we, as fans, also only want the best for her and just feel that a shotgun marriage to legitimatize a pregnancy is not a good idea.



We're shocked about how suddenly the news happened and how it's likely going to affect her professional life.

With a new album set to be released, I think a lot of us were expecting the Meisa music train to keep chugging along as it always has. Regardless of sales, she seemed happy with what she was doing and there didn't seem to be any signs of her stopping anytime soon. Her being married and pregnant changes all of that in a major way. Unless she decides to release an official statement regarding the future of her acting and music careers (which I think is unlikely because she, herself, probably doesn't know either), we fans are going to be left in limbo for an indefinite amount of time.

It's that uncertainty that dampens our enthusiasm for the new album because it could be last thing she ever releases and the circumstances for it being that way are, at this point in time, very questionable.

Thank you so much for posting this FIRSTKLAS. While my decision to keep or cancel my order for the album is more dependent on if I like the songs in full, my enthusiasm has dampened some due to how this went down as well as other reasons outside of Meisa. The issue is not about her being pregnant and getting married, which I think is an important point that some people seem to be missing. From what I've read from the posts regarding this situation, no one has directly said anything about not ever wanting Meisa to be with anyone or being upset about the situation solely because she is pregnant and getting married. I think some comments may have been misinterpreted as coming from a place of negativity instead of a place of concern. Although I don't consider myself a fan of Meisa, I do wish the best for her as I have mentioned in previous posts.

[ayu_ready?]

Originally Posted by Mai82Go

It still doesn't make sense to me. Quite the opposite. Because it might be the end of her music career she needs support for her album, especially now. And what does it matter? You buy the album because you like her music, right? Her personal circumstances don't change that fact. But I don't judge you and you guys can spent money on whatever you like. It doesn't matter either way, I'm not even that big a fan of hers. *shrugs*

I really, too, do not understand how you can accuse someone of their personal stuff, and getting pregnant? I think pregnancy is good & beautiful, although I'm myself kinda shocked of this 'baby-boom' in jpop this year
and I'm not saying - 'yeah, get some gunshot wedding done!", no way
but we cannot tell the artists when they can get pregnant and when they can't
for me, it will even push me more to buy! because I will immediatly want even more to support & buy.

[adantatu2]

Meisa isn't on hiatus, right ?
I hope she can make promo for the album and keep singing.
In my opinion all this controversy will affect the sales in a wrong way.

And look at this
Jin Akanishi to be “Punished” by Johnny’s President
http://www.jpopasia.com/news/jin-aka...nt::10061.html

And a message by meisa on her official web

To everyone who has supported me
I’m sorry it’s taken so long for me to report this to everyone.
I, Kuroki Meisa, married Akanishi Jin on February 2nd.
I am still immature,
But I want to work even harder than before,
And I hope to grow as a person.
Please continue to give me your support.
—Kuroki Meisa

Nothing about pregnancy

[Lady~Deviance]

Alright kids, and today's moral of the story is:

WRAP IT UP!


To Kuroki Meisa, I wish her the best. I am sad due to the fact I just discovered her music VERY recently. But let's keep it 100% real, her career is finished.

In regards to Jin, I really hope he puts on his "grown man underwear" and matures into a loving husband and 'possible' father. My momma always used to tell me, "once a womanizer, always a womanizer". Let's just hope Jin doesn't fall into that stereotype.

[visionfactory]

Originally Posted by Lady~Deviance

To Kuroki Meisa, I wish her the best. I am sad due to the fact I just discovered her music VERY recently. But let's keep it 100% real, her career is finished.

Namie had a baby and married years ago and she's still active

[AyusakiFan]

Originally Posted by adantatu2

And a message by meisa on her official web

To everyone who has supported me
I’m sorry it’s taken so long for me to report this to everyone.
I, Kuroki Meisa, married Akanishi Jin on February 2nd.
I am still immature,
But I want to work even harder than before,
And I hope to grow as a person.
Please continue to give me your support.
—Kuroki Meisa

Nothing about pregnancy

While the statement is professional, it really gives no indication on how she feels about her marriage, if she's pregnant (she's allegedly only two months pregnant which is a bit early to make an announcement so I didn't really expect her to anyways), or how she will handle her music career (or even acting and modeling career) from here on out. This was a handwritten note to her fans so I'm a bit surprised that she didn't address any of these things. Maybe she doesn't know what she is going to do at this point as her main priority at this time is her new family.

Originally Posted by visionfactory

Namie had a baby and married years ago and she's still active

While I can understand where you're coming from, I wouldn't compare Namie to Meisa in this situation. Namie's last release before going on hiatus to focus on raising her son was #1, the two releases that came out the year she was gone were #1, and her first single after coming back took the #1 spot as well. Plus, Namie had been in the music business for a longer time (including her career in SUPER MONKEYS) and had already established a successful career (and apparently a strong fanbase) as far as charting and her sales. Fortunately, Namie was able to leave and comeback on a high note but unfortunately, Meisa's last single only peaked at #47 and fell off the charts after two weeks and her album is not predicted to do well in sales (I hope she does better than predicted though, I think it would be nice for her to leave on a high note). Namie's also been in the music business for 20 years at this point and is at the top of her game, which is a great accomplishment and uncommon when considering all of the other singers who come and go in the industry. Music career wise, they aren't comparable at all except for the fact that they're both singers. Since music is something that Meisa enjoys and she doesn't seem to care about sales, I'm sure she'll want to continue making music in the future and I hope she does. If she decides to do so, I hope she can come back stronger than before. But to her compare her in any sense to Namie is quite ridiculous and to be honest, a bit laughable. I like Meisa but she isn't in the same caliber as Namie is at this point in their lives or even back then when Namie went on hiatus.

[FIRSTKLAS]

Originally Posted by AyusakiFan

While I can understand where you're coming from, I wouldn't compare Namie to Meisa in this situation. Namie's last release before going on hiatus to focus on raising her son was #1, the two releases that came out the year she was gone were #1, and her first single after coming back took the #1 spot as well. Plus, Namie had been in the music business for a longer time (including her career in SUPER MONKEYS) and had already established a successful career (and apparently a strong fanbase) as far as charting and her sales. Fortunately, Namie was able to leave and comeback on a high note but unfortunately, Meisa's last single only peaked at #47 and fell off the charts after two weeks and her album is not predicted to do well in sales (I hope she does better than predicted though, I think it would be nice for her to leave on a high note). Namie's also been in the music business for 20 years at this point and is at the top of her game, which is a great accomplishment and uncommon when considering all of the other singers who come and go in the industry. Music career wise, they aren't comparable at all except for the fact that they're both singers. Since music is something that Meisa enjoys and she doesn't seem to care about sales, I'm sure she'll want to continue making music in the future and I hope she does. If she decides to do so, I hope she can come back stronger than before. But to her compare her in any sense to Namie is a quite ridiculous and to be honest, a bit laughable. I like Meisa but she isn't in the same caliber as Namie is at this point in their lives or even back then when Namie went on hiatus.

I agree with all of this and I'm glad you wrote it; you took the words right out of my mouth.

I don't think any of us are meaning to be negative, or are not supporting Meisa in her current situation, it's just that we're acknowledging her circumstances as different from others who were/are in similar situations.

[AyusakiFan]

Originally Posted by FIRSTKLAS

I agree with all of this and I'm glad you wrote it; you took the words right out of my mouth.

I don't think any of us are meaning to be negative, or are not supporting Meisa in her current situation, it's just that we're acknowledging her circumstances as different from others who were/are in similar situations.

I agree with you as well. While we all wish the best for Meisa in her professional and personal life, we also have to be willing to acknowledge things for how they are and be willing to accept them. Trying to ignore them or make them seem more favorable in her odds just because we like her is not being realistic. The best thing we can do is try to support her during this time (not particularly in a financial sense (although it helps) but as far as letting her know that we have her back and wish her well in all aspects of her life) and hope things have a positive outcome.