[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~Party Queen~ II

[KuuXAyu-fan]

#33 today

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

Wow, so all in all, Party Queen really isn't doing THAT badly. Awesome

[freedreamer]

Im sure the tour these days will still push it up

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

^Yeah, that's probable, and something to look forward to.

[brener]

i hope it charts at least for 10 weeks

[TeamAyu2004]

Man, i must of been dreaming.. I thought it said 14 today... ohwell.. lol

[brener]

Originally Posted by freedreamer

Im sure the tour these days will still push it up

we all hope something rise up the sales

[KuuXAyu-fan]

5th Day
Position: #36

[ayumisrael]

Thanks. They put top 50 in 2ch?

[AyuBlackwind]

Based on the data differences of sales from what Avex reports and what the Oricon reports, is it possible that Party Queen has already well passed the 150,000 mark along with Kuu's albums?

Why is there such a difference between what the Oricon says and Avex and why does it affect the RIAJ certifications?

Why shouldn't it count towards the total? I don't understand the numbers.

[KuuXAyu-fan]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

Thanks. They put top 50 in 2ch?

I get it from another source.

Originally Posted by AyuBlackwind

Based on the data differences of sales from what Avex reports and what the Oricon reports, is it possible that Party Queen has already well passed the 150,000 mark along with Kuu's albums?

Kuu is signed to an Avex Records Group label so her sales would be higher as well than what Oricon reports. I'm pretty sure those Avex numbers are shipments. A record label often reports a shipped figure to the media and say thats how much its sold.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by AyuBlackwind

Based on the data differences of sales from what Avex reports and what the Oricon reports, is it possible that Party Queen has already well passed the 150,000 mark along with Kuu's albums?

Why is there such a difference between what the Oricon says and Avex and why does it affect the RIAJ certifications?

Why shouldn't it count towards the total? I don't understand the numbers.

Avex counts the copies they sell to the stores.
RIAJ certificates how much copies were sold to stores.
Oricon counts the number of copies people bought on those stores.

Avex will always have larger numbers than Oricon unless the album is totally sold out and no more copies are made.

So, if there were produced 150,000 copies, and the public buy 90,000 of those, Avex will anounce it sold 100,000, while Oricon will count 90,000 and RIAJ will certificate gold (100,000 - 250,000) copies, as more than 100k copies were shipped, but less than enough to certificate it platinum (250k).

But Oricon can't count 100% of copies sold to the public, as they can't keep track on every small store that sells albums in Japan, and they only count 1/3 of total sales from events and concerts, as there's no way of making sure the label is lying about sales (Oricon is just a magazine, it's not like they have power to force any label to tell them the right numbers and check it on the label's stock).

So, considering concert and event sales, as events were a big part of promotion on this era, I wouldn't be surprised if Ayu actual weekly sales are higher than Koda's, considering the gap between their sales are minimal... But we will never know it for sure, so, I don't think anybody should really worry about it... In the end of the day, more important than having big Oricon numbers, is the money the album sales make... So, even if a worst "official" position, only Avex knows how well the albums are doing^^

[AyuBlackwind]

@KuuXAyu-fan
@Andrenekoi

Oh, OK. That makes sense.

Thanks.

[brener]

no update today?=D

[KuuXAyu-fan]

Originally Posted by brener

no update today?=D

She was 34 for the 6th and 7th day.

[brener]

thanks a lot!!!

[TeamAyu2004]

go ayumi!

[brener]

hoping for a 2k week!

[Corvina]

Weekly sales:
#43 2,532　浜崎あゆみ

Total Sales So Far: 135,807

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

I think 135k is good for this album I'm happy with that number for sure, but still, hope it keeps on selling a bit more!

Thanks for the update!