Ayu Discounted DVD's - BUY THEM HERE!

[sxesven]

Originally Posted by bulmasman

right, first off, Sven, you are one of the funniest, most sarcastic people i've ever had the joy of meeting

Originally Posted by bulmasman

Secondly, yes, bootlegging is bad, but i myself have been responsible for buying a bootleg in the past, and yes, i KNEW it was a bootleg before purchasing it. However, this was not and Ayu bootleg, it was the Archives Of Studio Ghibli box set. Yes, what i did was wrong, but at the same time, i really couldn't care less. IF companies wanted their official products to be bought world wide, then release the damn things world wide. At the time i bought the box set, Princess Mononoke was the only ghibli movie available within the UK, so i think i'm almost justified in what i did. (plus i'd read that the official box set was no longer available in japan. However, i would try my utmost hardes to stay away from Ayumi bootlegs as, when I buy an ayu item, i want an official one, but mostly for the sentimental value that it would bring as every ayu item i can obtain would be special to me.

True. I think buying bootlegs can be 'justified' when the item you are about isn't normally available, like the Ghibli Box you mentioned. I myself don't have an awful lot of bootlegs, except for some live CDs, like Deftones gigs. I don't see a point in not buying it; the Deftones sure as hell aren't gonna release them, and if I really want them, it's the only solution. If I was after some movies that just weren't available anymore but as bootlegs, I would defiinitely consider buying them.

Now, for Ayu stuff, it's an entirely diffent issue. Items like the Complete Clip Box are regularly available. The cost a hella lot, but well, maybe we are just spoilt because we're so used to getting everything eversince the invention of P2P-sharing, MP3, and DiVX. We're not willing to pay 50 bucks for something we can get for 25, but I seriously think you should just get straight with yourself and pay the full 50.

At the same time, James has a point as well; we're not rich. Well, most of us aren't. So we should just get over 'it' and be satisfied with what we can buy and obtain. Back when I just became an Ayu-fan I had serious plans to buy every Ayu release out there, and now I'm glad I didn't have the money for it back then.

Just like James, I don't have a crapload of Ayu items either. I have all the official albums including Memorial Address (that makes 6), A Best, A Ballads, and a A Ballads poster. That's it. So hell. Why'd I buy 31 singles, all in their 3 different versions, one to be unwrapped and the rest to stay sealed so I can look at it at night, when I'm in my bed, and sometimes just grab a few sealed CDs to touch the cellophane. Howdee, golly, such fun.

And downloading? Do it. As much as you want. I do it too, and I still buy CDs and whatever. I could probably download Shiina Ringo's 'Electric Mole' DVD today, but I'm waiting for another two months 'til I have enough money to pay the 35 bucks it's gonna cost me.

[Unimatrix Prime™]

Originally Posted by sxesven

At the same time, James has a point as well; we're not rich. Well, most of us aren't. So we should just get over 'it' and be satisfied with what we can buy and obtain. Back when I just became an Ayu-fan I had serious plans to buy every Ayu release out there, and now I'm glad I didn't have the money for it back then.

As did I. At the time, I just had to find as much Ayu-related stuff as possible! I'd go to CD stores and start browsing the pop and world sections in hopes that there'd be at least 1 Ayu (or J-Pop) CD, but could never find one. If I had, I'd probably have loads of Ayu CDs by now, but at the same time, I'd have CDs which I'd hardly ever listen to because I don't like certain mixes. The "glory" about MP3s is that you can hear things for free. What you do after that is entirely up to you (such as, whether you'll go and buy the CD or not), but at least that option exists for now.

After reading the comments here, I've been thinking about 1 of 3 things. Either I should just stop posting Ayu MP3s all together, offer them in 128kbps or less, or just upload old/rare songs (such as the Excerpt Series, Nothing from Nothing, Vinyls, etc). Honestly, who here has actually bought an album/single after downloading it here? I'm sure a few have, but others will probably never even consider it. At the moment, I'm undecided on what I'll do, but it's topics like this which really make you think.

[Queen Bee]

Originally Posted by Unimatrix Prime™

As did I. At the time, I just had to find as much Ayu-related stuff as possible! I'd go to CD stores and start browsing the pop and world sections in hopes that there'd be at least 1 Ayu (or J-Pop) CD, but could never find one. If I had, I'd probably have loads of Ayu CDs by now, but at the same time, I'd have CDs which I'd hardly ever listen to because I don't like certain mixes. The "glory" about MP3s is that you can hear things for free. What you do after that is entirely up to you (such as, whether you'll go and buy the CD or not), but at least that option exists for now.

After reading the comments here, I've been thinking about 1 of 3 things. Either I should just stop posting Ayu MP3s all together, offer them in 128kbps or less, or just upload old/rare songs (such as the Excerpt Series, Nothing from Nothing, Vinyls, etc). Honestly, who here has actually bought an album/single after downloading it here? I'm sure a few have, but others will probably never even consider it. At the moment, I'm undecided on what I'll do, but it's topics like this which really make you think.

To answer your question about who has bought a album/single after downloading it here, I have.I just use the mp3s to decide if I want the single or not then I trash the mp3s or videos after I get the offical product.

[bulmasman]

Originally Posted by Unimatrix Prime™

After reading the comments here, I've been thinking about 1 of 3 things. Either I should just stop posting Ayu MP3s all together, offer them in 128kbps or less, or just upload old/rare songs (such as the Excerpt Series, Nothing from Nothing, Vinyls, etc). Honestly, who here has actually bought an album/single after downloading it here? I'm sure a few have, but others will probably never even consider it. At the moment, I'm undecided on what I'll do, but it's topics like this which really make you think.

Well, I downloaded the & single, then bought it shortly after. With memorial address, i had the chance to dl B.O.Y and Angels Song but decided to wait, as i wanted a surprise when i listened to the cd. Currently, i have the other Ayu albums downloaded, but DO plan to buy them towards the end of the year if i can get the money together, and pay off my mom first hehe.

aaaaanywho, i live on mp3's downloads basically. If you can point me to shop that sells asian music cd's and dvd's (in my area), i would be more than happy to pay the prices, as going on Yesasia, prices there are excellent, about the same that i would expect to pay for something in the shops here (even if they ARE the overseas versions, but ah well)

[yulen]

i can understand where people who don't have all the money in the world would like to get these things for cheaper. honestly, i myself don't own any of ayu's cds. the reason? it's free to download. i need to spend my money (of which i don't earn a lot at all) on college like books and whatnot. some of us can't even save for ayu cds b/c we need that money for much more important things. i would love nothing more than to buy all of ayu's cds cause they're just so wonderful and let's face it, cds u buy are a much better quality. but from a money standpoint, i can understand....even saving can be difficult for some of us when the money needs to be used for something more important.

also, ebay is a great way to get stuff for cheap! altho there can be bootlegs there as well, u can find some good quality stuff for a few bucks!

just my two cents ^__^

also, i think its great that there can be debate here with minimal flaming/bashing. ayu fans seem hardcore but civil

[jiayulam]

My brain is getting overheated from the reading....... So I will summarize: I think it is eventually at your discretion to buy bootleg or not...... no one can intimidate you to do otherwise!

[AfanforXX]

If you're only gonna use the mp3 for evaluation purposes, you don't need to have a 192k one, a 64-96k MP3, or even wma, should be sufficient.

[Coelacanth]

Update:

I got my Complete Clip Box today... you wouldn't even know its bootleg... it comes with the same box as the Overseas Ver., same booklet with the lyrics... The quality is fine... I'm glad I bought it... No regrets...

[AfanforXX]

did the box bring a grenade launcher as an extra?

[Coelacanth]

Originally Posted by AfanforXX

did the box bring a grenade launcher as an extra?

Unfortunately not... but I plan to order one from there...

[PickleCookies]

What about your soul? Did they send that too?

[JimmyKoria]

I was wondering why those cd's where cheap....

=\ so you know, most of the stuff off ebay is bootleg too, so that cheaper clip box you think is real, is probably fake just like the other one on that site.

Whats up with all the people getting morals all the suddenly?

[Aldonia]

Aren't you forgetting, Phantoma, that AnimeToxic has bootlegs? *coughs and throws her cd at you* Why should their DVDs be different? I'm not even looking, as I'm almost 100% sure they're bootlegs.

Secondly, there are ways to get posts other than making a bunch of dumb topics.

[ShAdOw X]

I don't trust ebay for buying CD even do most auction mentioned that it's straight from Avex Trax or whatever they say is real. What caught my eye was that the Location where the seller live is either Singapore or China. So I already knew it's bootlegs. They just trying to get you to buy it. Like, "yulen" said, people need to spend money on more priority important things for your life and I don't get much money in my hands too. I wouldn't waste so much on Ayu CD's and other stuff because it just result in me getting all satisfied and I wanted more so if I don't have money, I'm going to suffer that I wanted to buy things which I don't have any more money. People need to spend money wisely. I don't really suffer but you get the point. Don't go around and be spending and consider your options.

PS: YesAsia overseas versions are bootlegs even though I never bought from yesasia. It's obvious to me that "overseas versions" are bootlegs from other places for yesasia to get away with. C'mon, they have two versions, Japan and overseas and you know you want the Japan version. Don't get overseas just because it's cheaper. And Yesasia cost for jpop cd's are slightly more than CDJapan site, so I don't understand why many people buy cd's from yesasia from the facts I just mentioned. Nothing offensive, just saying what I have to say. ^_^

[Unimatrix Prime™]

If you're buying from eBay and the seller posts some images, check to see how Ayu's name is written:

浜崎あゆみ <-- Japanese
濱崎步 <-- Chinese

While this isn't some definitive way to see if you're buying a bootleg or not (since authentic OS items usually are in Chinese), at least it'll tell you which CDs are Japanese or Chinese.

[ShAdOw X]

Still, I still won't give my chances to buy from eBay, probably will be the last to buy from for JPop CD's. People will do anything to get away with and then after you get you cd, it's bootlegged. It's really sad expecially for the people who don't know much about bootlegs and newbies making bids for the crappy version of it. Later when them people realized they will say, "Damn, I can't believed I wasted my money on a fake item." Nothing beats the original.

[Queen Bee]

Originally Posted by ShAdOw X

I don't trust ebay for buying CD even do most auction mentioned that it's straight from Avex Trax or whatever they say is real. What caught my eye was that the Location where the seller live is either Singapore or China. So I already knew it's bootlegs. They just trying to get you to buy it. Like, "yulen" said, people need to spend money on more priority important things for your life and I don't get much money in my hands too. I wouldn't waste so much on Ayu CD's and other stuff because it just result in me getting all satisfied and I wanted more so if I don't have money, I'm going to suffer that I wanted to buy things which I don't have any more money. People need to spend money wisely. I don't really suffer but you get the point. Don't go around and be spending and consider your options.

PS: YesAsia overseas versions are bootlegs even though I never bought from yesasia. It's obvious to me that "overseas versions" are bootlegs from other places for yesasia to get away with. C'mon, they have two versions, Japan and overseas and you know you want the Japan version. Don't get overseas just because it's cheaper. And Yesasia cost for jpop cd's are slightly more than CDJapan site, so I don't understand why many people buy cd's from yesasia from the facts I just mentioned. Nothing offensive, just saying what I have to say. ^_^

I thought I might let you know this but the overseas versions of Ayumi's CDs on YesAsia are not bootlegs.YesAsia does not sell bootlegs.Not everyone wants the Japanese version for the simple fact that they may not have the money to shell out for the Japanese so they get the overseas version.The overseas version are released by Avex Taiwan or the other Avex braches that are not based in Japan.I do not mean to sound rude but I thought you should know.

[ShAdOw X]

OMG...you should know better. If it's Avex Taiwan or other branches those are consider bootlegs. Those are not part of the Avex Japan and just made up names like that to trick people to selling them. You should know that only Taiwan and China are the only place that people can make bootlegs and it's legal. You probably can't tell the quality difference but you're not getting "everything". Like I said, nothing beats the original.

[Queen Bee]

Originally Posted by ShAdOw X

OMG...you should know better. If it's Avex Taiwan or other branches those are consider bootlegs. Those are not part of the Avex Japan and just made up names like that to trick people to selling them. You should know that only Taiwan and China are the only place that people can make bootlegs and it's legal. You probably can't tell the quality difference but you're not getting "everything". Like I said, nothing beats the original.

I'm sorry but I don't know where you got your information but you are still wrong.There is even an Avex USA but they have only released two records.I own two copies of every CD I own one Japanese Version and one Overseas Version.So you need to check your information before you start accusing the overseas version of being bootlegs.

[kawai]

ShAdOw X, if you don't believe it PM me for avex hong kong office's number.
Also Yesasia got their stock direct from avex asia (hong kong) so they are not dumb into selling bootleg/pirated items to shoot themselves in their legs