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Old 12th August 2009, 11:34 AM
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If the sales are 30k+ tomorrow then I'll be very happy. lol, hope there's good longetivity like NEXT LEVEL.
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sales is worse than what I expected...
If days could sell 61K in 1st day and R/S 42K then S/S should be in the middle at least 50K

we will see the massive decrease tomorrow's chart like her recent sales since days/GREEN and Rule/Sparkle
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this could be one of her lowest selling singles since her first singles right??
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Old 12th August 2009, 11:59 AM
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this could be one of her lowest selling singles since her first singles right??
no. Poker face still the lowest only 42K total sales.
I think S/S sales much similar with Glitter/Fated

Just hope tomorrow sales wont drop below 20K that it will be considered good sales
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I don't think it will drop as much as them since S/S doesn't have a first press.

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this could be one of her lowest selling singles since her first singles right??
I think that talkin' 2 myself might keep this title.
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Old 12th August 2009, 12:04 PM
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COOL! She is first again!
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Old 12th August 2009, 12:06 PM
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talkin' 2 myself sold on the first day (15,010 x 1.75) 26,268.

S/S has a good chance to outsell it.

It seems like talkin' 2 myself will remain the scapegoat as of the late era of ayu.

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For a pretty bad single (imo) this is doing quite well. To me, the songs and pvs just look like they cut corners... same tune, 2 songs, same stage, 2 pvs. Unattractive covers, not really memorable songs, so... I'm pleasantly surprised at the sales! Make it to numbah 1!!!
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talkin' 2 myself only debuted with around 25k dropping to 16k the second day if I remember well, it still managed to sell 110k. Which means that this single will too
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thanks for ur info about the lowest selling singles guys ^^

anyway, I'm sure sales won't affect ayu, I don't think
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thanks for ur info about the lowest selling singles guys ^^

anyway, I'm sure sales won't affect ayu, I don't think
Generally those sales are undeniably still good they will affect ayu (well avex) with a great profit.
If it will manage to sell 130,000 (like R/S) or 115,000+ it will be really good since it will sell similar to namie's single (who just had a million and a half selling album). The only three who passed that are YUI, ayu (with D/G that is considered 2009 in oricon year and is the 2nd best selling single by a female artist this year) and that enka singer with ai no mamade that has the best selling single by a female artist of this year.

We can see that female artists didn't so much great with singles this year.
That's why if S/S will manage 115,000+ in total it will be great since averagely it seems to be the new great, or at least above average for female singers with singles.
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Generally those sales are undeniably still good they will affect ayu (well avex) with a great profit.
If it will manage to sell 130,000 (like R/S) or 115,000+ it will be really good since it will sell similar to namie's single (who just had a million and a half selling album). The only three who passed that are YUI, ayu (with D/G that is considered 2009 in oricon year and is the 2nd best selling single by a female artist this year) and that enka singer with ai no mamade that has the best selling single by a female artist of this year.

We can see that female artists didn't so much great with singles this year.
That's why if S/S will manage 115,000+ in total it will be great since averagely it seems to be the new great, or at least above average for female singers with singles.
ohh I see! oh well xD

deep inside I hope this single do not sell much, first because is a weak single so it does not deserve high sales, and second because I hope she understands that she needs a break
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Generally those sales are undeniably still good they will affect ayu (well avex) with a great profit.
If it will manage to sell 130,000 (like R/S) or 115,000+ it will be really good since it will sell similar to namie's single (who just had a million and a half selling album). The only three who passed that are YUI, ayu (with D/G that is considered 2009 in oricon year and is the 2nd best selling single by a female artist this year) and that enka singer with ai no mamade that has the best selling single by a female artist of this year.

We can see that female artists didn't so much great with singles this year.
That's why if S/S will manage 115,000+ in total it will be great since averagely it seems to be the new great, or at least above average for female singers with singles.
So D/G will be on the 2009 single ranking, right? I remember YUI fans rejoicing that YUI's single "again" surpassed Ayu's R/S as in terms of sales in 2009 and is now the best-selling single by a female artist this year. I suppose they weren't counting oricon year. I feel oddly happy about that.

I'm still hoping that S/S won't go by the halving formula for her other single sales though. Since there wasn't first press for this single, perhaps the 2nd day sales will be higher. THEN going by that and making a prediction:

36k --> 26k --> 15k --> 9k --> 9k --> 7k = 102k

I tried to be very optimistic with the dropping numbers. 2nd day numbers were inflated just because I hope they will be high. YUI's 1st two days were really really good. If only Ayu went from 36k to 34k.

On a side note if we did the usual halving though:

36k --> 18k --> 9k --> 9k --> 9k --> 7k = 88k
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So D/G will be on the 2009 single ranking, right? I remember YUI fans rejoicing that YUI's single "again" surpassed Ayu's R/S as in terms of sales in 2009 and is now the best-selling single by a female artist this year. I suppose they weren't counting oricon year. I feel oddly happy about that.
Here is your answer.

The top 50 list of the 50 best selling singles by far of 2009 oricon year:

Solo female artists are bolded


*1 *,652,779 ***,398 Believe/曇りのち、快晴 / 嵐、矢野健太 starring Satoshi Ohno 09/03/04
*2 *,615,710 **1,131 明日の記憶/Crazy Moon~キミ・ハ・ムテキ~ / 嵐 09/05/27
*3 *,471,667 **1,448 愛のままで… / 秋元順子 08/01/23 累計633,063
*4 *,399,995 **2,991 Everything / 嵐 09/07/01
*5 *,377,097 ***,*** RESCUE / KAT-TUN 09/03/11
*6 *,358,508 ***,484 ひまわり / 遊助 09/03/11
*7 *,331,248 ***,*** ONE DROP / KAT-TUN 09/02/11
*8 *,282,515 ***,374 恋のABO / NEWS 09/04/29
*9 *,265,187 ***,882 THE MONSTER ~Someday~ / EXILE 09/04/15
10 *,234,968 *21,733 THE HURRICANE ~FIREWORKS~ / EXILE 09/07/22
11 *,233,252 **1,697 たんぽぽ/海賊船/其の拳 / 遊助 09/06/24
12 *,231,122 ***,*** 弱虫サンタ / 羞恥心 08/12/10
13 *,226,530 *10,991 悪魔な恋/NYC / 中山優馬w/B.I.Shadow/NYC boys 09/07/15
14 *,215,981 **1,778 Stand by U / 東方神起 09/07/01
15 *,210,510 ***,*** 約束 / KinKi Kids 09/01/28
16 *,202,885 ***,770 化身 / 福山雅治 09/05/20
17 *,190,891 ***,*** Days/GREEN / 浜崎あゆみ 08/12/17
18 *,180,600 180,600 イチブトゼンブ/DIVE / B'z 09/08/05
19 *,173,914 **2,648 浪曲一代 / 氷川きよし 09/02/04
20 *,161,699 *10,606 妖 ~あやかし~ / 堂本光一 09/07/29
21 *,159,782 ***,702 again / YUI 09/06/03
22 *,158,284 **1,416 Don't say "lazy" / 桜高軽音部 09/04/22
23 *,157,210 **1,272 Share The World/ウィーアー! / 東方神起 09/04/22
24 *,147,947 ***,*** 今宵、月が見えずとも / ポルノグラフィティ 08/12/10
25 *,142,495 **1,171 Cagayake! GIRLS / 桜高軽音部 09/04/22
26 *,141,804 ***,649 明日がくるなら JUJU with JAY'ED / JUJU 09/04/29
27 *,140,340 ***,756 遥か / GReeeeN 09/05/27
28 *,139,082 ***,578 涙サプライズ! / AKB48 09/06/24 
29 *,130,816 ***,*** Rule/Sparkle / 浜崎あゆみ 09/02/25
30 *,124,219 ***,*** 歩み / GReeeeN 09/01/28
31 *,119,352 ***,*** WILD/Dr. / 安室奈美恵 09/03/18
32 *,111,266 ***,*** 鏡花水月 / The SHIGOTONIN 09/02/04
33 *,110,717 ***,*** Bolero/Kiss The Baby Sky/忘れないで / 東方神起 09/01/21
34 *,107,374 **2,019 安芸の宮島 / 水森かおり 09/04/01
35 *,105,426 ***,413 嘘 / シド 09/04/29
36 *,104,173 ***,*** 10年桜 / AKB48 09/03/04
37 *,103,431 **6,348 泣いてもいいですか / フレンズ&ヘキサゴンオールスターズ 09/07/15
38 *,102,577 ***,*** 虹 / コブクロ 09/04/15
39 *,102,007 ***,*** milk/嘆きのキス / aiko 09/02/18
40 *,101,422 ***,*** SAY YOUR DREAM / GLAY 09/03/04/
41 *,101,016 ***,*** ワンルーム・ディスコ / Perfume 09/03/25
42 *,*99,429 ***,*** It's all Love! / 倖田來未×misono 09/03/31
43 *,*98,322 ***,*** 逢いたい / ゆず 09/04/22
44 *,*97,861 **1,089 七夕祭り / テゴマス 09/07/08
45 *,*97,352 ***,*** 刹那 / GReeeeN 09/03/11
46 *,*95,834 ***,*** Survivor / 東方神起 09/03/11
47 *,*94,378 ***,601 Journey through the Decade / Gackt 09/03/25
48 *,*89,752 ***,*** I am xxx / GLAY 09/05/25
49 *,*87,178 **2,006 3 SPLASH(Lick me/ECSTACY/走れ!) / 倖田來未 09/07/08
50 *,*84,250 ***,455 Love Forever / 加藤ミリヤ×清水翔太 09/05/13
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that time when YUI's again was released , all her fans rejoiced in that she had the highest 1st week sales attained by a female solo artiste & NOT the total sales that again has accumulated so far

I should add that again's her 2nd best selling single , the 1st being Goodbye-days

anyway I hope Sunrise/Sunset will do well . I can't comment about Morning Museume at all since I don't listen to them
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So D/G will be on the 2009 single ranking, right? I remember YUI fans rejoicing that YUI's single "again" surpassed Ayu's R/S as in terms of sales in 2009 and is now the best-selling single by a female artist this year. I suppose they weren't counting oricon year. I feel oddly happy about that.

I'm still hoping that S/S won't go by the halving formula for her other single sales though. Since there wasn't first press for this single, perhaps the 2nd day sales will be higher. THEN going by that and making a prediction:

36k --> 26k --> 15k --> 9k --> 9k --> 7k = 102k

I tried to be very optimistic with the dropping numbers. 2nd day numbers were inflated just because I hope they will be high. YUI's 1st two days were really really good. If only Ayu went from 36k to 34k.

On a side note if we did the usual halving though:

36k --> 18k --> 9k --> 9k --> 9k --> 7k = 88k

Koda with 3 SPLASH has sold 87K in 3 weeks with a 3 a-side single and 3 PV and multiple verions with gift, etc... so looking at that it seems great if ayu can do that in only 1 week with S/S.... no? ^^


It's not a super single... I hope it will do like R/S ^^ I'm happy she is the 1st pop female singer in the list of best selling singles yearly ^^
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Koda with 3 SPLASH has sold 87K in 3 weeks with a 3 a-side single and 3 PV and multiple verions with gift, etc... so looking at that it seems great if ayu can do that in only 1 week with S/S.... no? ^^


It's not a super single... I hope it will do like R/S ^^ I'm happy she is the 1st pop female singer in the list of best selling singles yearly ^^
3 SPLASH sold it in 5 weeks.
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Koda with 3 SPLASH has sold 87K in 3 weeks with a 3 a-side single and 3 PV and multiple verions with gift, etc... so looking at that it seems great if ayu can do that in only 1 week with S/S.... no? ^^


It's not a super single... I hope it will do like R/S ^^ I'm happy she is the 1st pop female singer in the list of best selling singles yearly ^^
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this was from the 3 days of talkin' 2 myself...

26,267 + 17,477 + 8,947 = 52,691

S/S probably will sell more
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I actually think that it's her strongest summer single since INSPIRE.

I really wouldn't mind if it would outsell, fairyland, BLUE BIRD or glitter/fated but it has no chance
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