Tohoshinki to "stop/pause" activities

[ストロボ・EdGE]

That really stinks. I'm not a super big fan but they have some really good songs. I really don't appreciate Johnny's etc so this was the closest I came to enjoying the music of a boy band. They were different from the rest :/ On top of that it hasn't been that long since they started having this huge success...

What are the reasons for this...? What was the lawsuit about?

I'm so sorry Waterballoon!

[LizBrazil]

The contract they have with SM Entertainment is a contract of 13 years. It will be even more than that, because there will be a pauze when the boys have to go to the army. Junsu, Yoochun and Jaejoong wanted to change some things in their contracts, because the contracts are not fair (and even inhuman). Basically, SME gets 80% of everything they sell and the members get 20% which has to be divided by 5 (members). So 4% each of everything they sell. They also weren't allowed to do solo works outside DBSK. Junsu, Yoochun and Jaejoong invested in a company called CreBeau and SME used it against them. So another reason for the members to want to change the contract. But SME didn't listen to them and didn't change the contracts. So the 3 members decided to start a lawsuit against SME to get the changes legally (they can't leave SME without paying a very large sum of money). It was decided that they can do solo works outside DBSK, but the rest is still undecided. The lawsuit is at a 'halt' now, because they are investigating SME (books aka money, other contracts, ...). After that the lawsuit will continue.

I hope they find something against SME, so DBSK can win No really, SME didn't want to give the documents in for the lawsuit investigation, so I can only guess that there was something that wasn't looking good for SME. I support the boys in this. It is really an unfair contract and they deserve better than that.
I guess BoA has a contract for 13 years too, since she is celebrating her 10th anniversary in Korea this year. They got everything out of her and pushed her to perform in Japan and America. America failed, she lost popularity in Japan and she hasn't released anything in Korea for years. I really hope her comeback in Korea goes well.

[♥Rain]

^ thanks for explaining. that sucks :/ i hope they find something too, that's really unfair of them!

[LizBrazil]

You're welcome It's just a summary of the biggest things.
Oh, SME also released a statement in the name of Changmin and Yunho (not included in the lawsuit) with not so nice words for the other three members. The statements were signed, but any fan that has seen their signatures before could see that those signatures on that statement were fake Really, if you want to fool fans, you have to try harder than that A few days or a week ago, someonf of SME admitted that those signatures weren't real, but the statement was written after hearing the two members (read: we just turned their words so we could hurt the other three).
SME also announced a concert (3rd Asia Tour 2009 ~Mirotic~) in China, but called it off because "Junsu, Yoochun and Jaejoong don't want to perform". In reality the three didn't know there was a concert scheduled in China, because SME never told them. So, they wanted to hurt the fans. Conclusion: SME is evil No really, they are just being childish about this. There were also rumours that the members were watched by SM staff in Japan and that they weren't allowed to talk to each other.

[♥Rain]

^ WOAH. that's just immature & petty child's play that happens in playgrounds and they're supposed to be some big name company? wow.

so the 5 of them are okay with eachother though right?

[LizBrazil]

^
I guess so In "BREAK OUT!" (released in February this year) they sang to us: "We keep the faith eternally!"

[ストロボ・EdGE]

That's so horrible. I can't believe they can get away with this sort of thing and apparently something similar was done to BoA!? Wow, that explains why she's so burnt out.

Do all men in South Korea have to join the army at a certain age??

[AyUmIXx]

new update about their situation:

from yesterday's miyaneya tv news

i think you guys can read from here:

http://www.onetvxq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11005

The boys are still best friends
and i believe that there's still a possible come back for them..
the lawsuit thing has been really hard for them and it's good that they're taking a break for a while..
actually their solo works were right from the beginning should be going as planned BUT it's just not this fast, if the lawsuit wasn't going on, they would certainly finally get to go solos, but since the lawsuit happened first, the solo works occurred the way faster..
so that doesn't mean the boys are going to disband anytime soon, they just pause their group activities, that's all

I'm so grateful that Max Matsuura and avex's CSO (i forgot his name) have been tweeting on their official Twitter to give us updates about the boys
they really show their support to our boys
I'm glad that they boys are under avex trax who care about them where SME doesn't even give a damn about them T__T

[Yumsushi]

I was wondering why they were pulling a Koda Kumi. Watch their album sales skyrocket due to the news.

[AyUmIXx]

^
pulling koda kumi?
what do you mean?

anyway, i believe avex wants to keep them, but SME prevents avex to do so..
(Max did say so that he was not sure if SME would give him permission to take over Tohoshinki, things like that..just go to the sharingyoochun.wordpress.com, a tohoshinki fanblog and read Max's translated tweets about the boys' situation)

and as much as avex is a money sucker..SME is much more evil and super money sucker..
at least in avex, the boys have more freedom than in SME.. i believe so because they boys seemed to be enjoying works in Japan...

oh yea one more thing, whether it's sugar coating or whatever, before they really officially announce they disband, I will still continue to believe that they'll make a come back soon..
as of now, I believe that the boys are just taking a break from this whole mess and the 5 of them have become intense because of this issue and I know things from the korean side which I can't share with you yet..so there's a reason that make me to still believe that they will make a come back with a better form

last but not least, let's support the boys individually right now

[ストロボ・EdGE]

Comeback? It's not like they've been in a long hiatus or anything. They just released that best album, right? And then the re-cut single.

[LacusClyne]

^yes. That did, but this suspend news is out after the releases, n god knows how long...
Think they were the first to dare to stand up against SME, I think things will get more ugly.... What an evil company.

About their money earn from cd sales, I remember reading somewhere that they have to sell a certain amount, was it 80 000 n above? But if they did not sell so much, or they won't get any cents from it.

[primavera♥]

im nto a fan at all. but what SME does even maddens me. i never noticed this. now my friend who loves them will be more depressed.

[LacusClyne]

Originally Posted by AyuGAME

i'm not a fan of them...
even i can say that i kinda don't like them
but i feel bad for their fans...i can't imagine if ayu do this...so i believe its really bad news for Tohoshinki fans...
but i think it won't be long...i believe they will come back soon...so be strong tohoshinki fans!!! (^_^)

by the way...what is so funny is that avex already got a tons of money from their best album and new single before they stop their activities...ckckckck...avex is really a moneysucker!!!

Don't blame avex. This time they were being angels n trying their best to help the boys from their evil SME Korea company, but SM aren't letting them go easily.
You should read max's tweets, he's very sad that the boys have to undergo this...but he did ask everyone to continue supporting the boys solo works.

[Yumsushi]

Originally Posted by AyUmIXx

^
pulling koda kumi?
what do you mean?

Pulling a Koda Kumi with the sheer number of releases they had in 2009 and 2010.

[dreamland2.0]

wow that sucks for the fans...
one of my favourite groups broke up a few years ago... I know how it feels

and that's truly awful what SME did to them I must say...
turns idols into slaves.... I hope the lawsuit ends up well and they lose a bunch of money!

[AyUmIXx]

ストロボ・EdGE, yeah they're gonig to be on the long hiatus right now, for don't know how long..and they will sure make a comeback with a better form, better improvement~

LacusClyne, yeap that's true, i don't remember the exact number, i think it's about 500K, if they don't reach that 500K, then they won't get paid or something like that~

Yumsushi, you mean the boys' CD sales higher than Kuu's? *sorrryyy my english isn't the best one~*

[waterballoon]

no Yumushi means how TVXQ has been whoring their releases in the past 2 years, xD... I kind agree with the remix album and the DVD... the BEST album was of course important but I don't see how Toki wo Tomete should be a re-cut single, but to "end" with a 30th single is a pretty number, so...

[AyUmIXx]

^
avex's reason to release TWT single because, TWT actually was supposed to be a single before best album.. and many fans wanted it to be a single though and to have a PV for that song..so yea~

[y_nathz]

^ I never know that..
But yeah 30 is a nice number, I hope they'll back whoring their releases soon