[3/22] 'Secret' 16th Week Sales - Page 4

WillofDusk · #61 29th April 2007, 12:24 PM

HEy I just checked Wiki n Secret broke 800k!
I dun noe why but it really did
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_...asaki_album%29

Lee_Hamasaki · #62 29th April 2007, 12:31 PM

it is impossible...

*Petit* · #63 29th April 2007, 01:39 PM

It's probably the avex numbers, not oricon numbers.

ayu_fan929 · #64 29th April 2007, 01:55 PM

^Yep. Someone in the avex numbers thread said they were going to change it.

cater2u · #65 3rd May 2007, 10:53 AM

its a good news however

slowmoth · #66 3rd May 2007, 07:31 PM

It's true but... how? :/ look
Secret: 665,845 (+138,155)
Black Cherry: 989,848 (+470,152)

Maybe oricon forgot some important shops or something...

Ayumiko · #67 3rd May 2007, 08:32 PM

maybe its the amount shipped from avex?

Lee_Hamasaki · #68 3rd May 2007, 08:55 PM

YE..maybe

ayu_fan929 · #69 3rd May 2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumiko

maybe its the amount shipped from avex?

Same. This avex number matches the RIAJ certification (3x Platinum) and we already know that the RIAJ counts the number of copies shipped.

njanjayrp · #70 3rd May 2007, 11:46 PM

well, who would ship 804 k .... why not 805 k

.Maybe these are just the total sales, including the HK, Taiwan etc. ones, as AVEX is releasing those in other countries as well.On the other side they seem a bit rounded as there isn't a single one that doesnt have 0s after the . XD

evolution7931 · #71 4th May 2007, 03:06 AM

I'd just like to point out that Oricon isn't 100% accurate:

Naturally, merchandise released from only excepted markets cannot reach to the chart. For example, debut single of the idol group called NEWS was released at 7-Eleven only (any convenience stores haven't added to registered shops), and did not climb to chart. Before leading of POS, result of the charts had depended on Faxes which had sent from record shops. The announced sales of materials by the Oricon are only an inferential value, not completely accurate one.

And can someone tell me why BLUE BIRD's ranking went from 322000 to 349000 from the 3rd trimester of 2006 into the 1st of 2007? Even if it is shipped copies, that means more stores must have ordered more copies of the single right? Which means the ones IN the stores must have been selling or sold out, right? The same thing happened for Secret

ayu_fan929 · #72 4th May 2007, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by evolution7931

And can someone tell me why BLUE BIRD's ranking went from 322000 to 349000 from the 3rd trimester of 2006 into the 1st of 2007? Even if it is shipped copies, that means more stores must have ordered more copies of the single right? Which means the ones IN the stores must have been selling or sold out, right? The same thing happened for Secret

From what I see, avex first reported BLUE BIRD at 322k on Jun 30th, 2006. They then reported that the single was at 349k on Sept 30th, 2006. Since the single was released on 6/21, I think the slight increase is understandable.

tourniquet · #73 4th May 2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by evolution7931

I'd just like to point out that Oricon isn't 100% accurate

oh sure, they are so inaccurate that they easily missed 1/3 of Black Cherry's sales. and of course, on the contrary, it is not like the album is sitting on shelves with the limited edition still not being sold out. obviously kuu has bought herself 500.000 copies just to increase sales numbers which don't even appear on oricon. that's marketing, ftw.

On That Day · #74 4th May 2007, 02:08 PM

^ LOL. But i think Ayu's new single will be a come back single! she may just take the current crown again

Sim' · #75 4th May 2007, 02:16 PM

Personally, I don't care about the Avex's sales at all, don't know why~

Sure that they are records from the disc label itself, Avex, but....
ORICON seems really more believable in terms of sales =/
What I mean is, it's like you can now compare Avex's artist with artists from different labels based on these numbers, which can be quite unfair since Avex's one raised and the others stayed at the ORICON numbers...

Of course it's good to know that Kuu~chan & Ayu 'sold' more, but this changes everything from the ORICON Top 100 of the year...
And if someone asks me how much did Secret sold, I'll just answer ~665k =)

LEOyumi · #76 4th May 2007, 03:13 PM

Erm.. Actually, I don't believe these numbers by avex. Oricon seems to be far more reliable.

evolution7931 · #77 5th May 2007, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

From what I see, avex first reported BLUE BIRD at 322k on Jun 30th, 2006. They then reported that the single was at 349k on Sept 30th, 2006. Since the single was released on 6/21, I think the slight increase is understandable.

But why would the number go up like that? If they shipped 322k and the single only sold like 250,000 then why would they even need to ship another 25k? Wouldn't the 322k have already been more than enough?

ayu_fan929 · #78 5th May 2007, 05:22 AM

Some stores probably did not have get enough copies while other stores probably had too many copies.

cater2u · #79 5th May 2007, 06:41 AM

it broke 1000.000.... in my mind

njanjayrp · #80 5th May 2007, 08:40 AM

As I said, those COULD BE THE TOTAL SALES including Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan etc.And that would be a reason why ORICON's numbers are lower.And btw most of the other record companies do release the total sales, take TOSHIBA EMI for example.