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14th April 2009, 02:47 PM
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#62
14th April 2009, 02:59 PM
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this Arena Tour seems interesting 
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#63
14th April 2009, 03:22 PM
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The at08 lip-synching coments were bs... in the tv reports her voice was awful, and them, even so... people said she wasn't singing mwn and marionette because the dvd and the tv version have tons of voice filters and then, she sounded good... at08 and at07 doesn't have any lip-synch... don't now about at06 (maybe ladies night, but if I'm not wrong, I saw a fan video of the show and that it was live), at05 had just one line in happy ending... at03-04 had some (she never sang angel's song or greatful days live on tours). PCDL have some too... all the cutesy part wasn't live... and maybe Over. But most of the time she is singing live... the problem is that some people were her fans back in the begining, doesn't like her much now and instead of moving on and listening to other artists (and keep listening to old ayu stuff maybe), keep searching bad things to talk about her career... and then, there's aways the "she doesn't sing live anymore", "her pvs were better", "her music were better", "she sounds and looks fake now", etc... ignoring that some people still likes the way she is doing things (or even prefer her career the way it is today...)
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#64
14th April 2009, 04:34 PM
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AT08 Marionette was DEFINITLY playback!(compared TV version, DVD version and fanrecordings) I dont have fan-recordings of talkin' 2 myself, but that was either playback or overdubbed on the DVD, the songs that are definitly live though from what i saw(i dont have many fan recordings) are: Depend on You, decision, my name's WOMEN, SURREAL~evolution~SURREAL, Mirrorcle World, (don't) Leave me alone when she is on the ground(im not sure about the part where shes still at the wheel cause theres like no mic-noises in that part, but Trauma CDL0405 had almost no to no mic sounds as well and it was live), most probably live are: A Song for XX, is this LOVE?, Fly High, HANABI, End roll
AT07: evolution was playback when she was on the ground(the ballad like beginning was live) or dubbed over, because it was the same CDL0708 was and another concerts had the same playback i think, too(was it CDL0607?) the other songs all sounded pretty live to me, but i dont watch AT07 often, i dont even have the complete setlist in mind... AT06: Ladies Night was live, im sure it was, alterna was probably playback, but i havent watched a fancam of it, so i cant be sure AT05: my name's WOMEN was probably playback, but i dont have a fanrecording to compare, but she is struggling with the moves quite much in AT08 and has no problems at all in AT05, screams playback to me! AT0304: Havent watched that often, so you could be right(Greatful Days I mean, ANGEL'S SONG was playback according to the DVD version) are you really sure that all the cutesy parts in PCDL were playback? I think vogue, HONEY and the last part of ANGEL's SONG are live...and Over had only the one line as sample I think
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#65
14th April 2009, 04:53 PM
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^No way ladies Night was live...
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#67
14th April 2009, 05:04 PM
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The sound was different when she started singing the cutesy songs... it was like "changing track now"
at08:I still think that Marionette wasn't playback... they have fixed her voice from the tv reports to the tv news (she wasn't breathing and projecting her voice in the right way in the reports, but that was fine on the DVD)... The mic-sounds can be taken off with singing classes and sound programing (the better the singer, the less he/she will make that sounds... and you can program the sound to eliminate most of it, even live). At07 I think you may be sure about the ground part... I saw some people saying that M wasn't live, but she was having a hard time singing this (even if she was smiling, you can see that she was getting tired and her neck veins were about to explode  ). But at07 sound is VERY edited... I don't think that we can say what was live and what wasn't based on the DVD... there's a fan recording of evolution, gonna search for itAt06: the only thing I know is that one day the ball wasn't moving and she had to sing alterna, is this love and (miss)understood there... At05: She was moving slower than she was at at08 in MNW, I think it's live (she herself confirmed the playback at happy ending) AT0304: I'm pretty sure it wasn't live... she used the same pre-recorded version on mtv superdry live
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#68
14th April 2009, 05:12 PM
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I was talking about AT '06 by the way...
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#69
14th April 2009, 05:14 PM
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The thing here is... I don't care if she uses it once in a while... Her kind of concerts have to use pre-recorded tracks once in a while cause it's performace-oriented (and she doesn't keep standing singing while everything is happening behind her anymore like in the old days). I know ayu can sing and I know she is a good singer (not the best one, but she can hold her own), but I also know that if you are going to have a huge performace, maybe you will have to sacrifice some aspects in order to be able to do some things... people can say they love to see her singing live and stuff but... Her new concert just started and there's a lot of complaining about how "cheap" (simple) it is... In order to have those huge shows, she will have to lip-synch sometimes....
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#70
14th April 2009, 05:18 PM
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at08: Marionette wasnt playback all the tour(the first concert had her forgetting the lyrics) they decided to make it playback some concert halfway through, so that could be the reason it sounded different? I still have HOPE that it was live, because its like my favorite performance of her ever or lets rather say...if it was live, it would be my favourite, its in my favouriteS because its 99% probably playback
headmic sounds were VERY prominent in decision and my name's WOMEN, so why should it be almost nothing in the other songs? thats really weird AT07: Im quite sure M was live, too, if she sang playback, she wouldnt nearly try as hard as she does according to her veins the editing really makes it hard to judge according to the dvd, it even makes kiss o' kill appear playback to some... AT06: Headmics can be turned on and off for her to sing some songs live, some playback and/or speak during the performance, so its just normal that she can make live songs on it as well without problems AT05: even if she was....I really think the choreography was too hard for her to sing THAT good AT0304: I never really checked MTV Super Dry Live for playback(I think the only song I checked was evolution but i wasnt sure if it was playback or not because i didnt have much time to check) so youre probably right EDIT: I dont really see how her big and epic performances are the reason for lipsynching, I think the reason is dancing, lets take evolution AT07 and Born to Be... AT06 as examples, Born to Be... was amazing show, but she didnt move more than in a performance without much show going on and it was most likely live, AT07 didnt have much show, but dancing, the really high kicks she does are most likely the reason for lipsynching it Last edited by noidea; 14th April 2009 at 05:22 PM.
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#71
14th April 2009, 05:29 PM
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Ayu sometimes does lip-synch so what?
the important thing is that, she is not doing it in all songs only 1-3 songs are still ok.. because i think every human has their own limit..so yeah..Ayu is a human too, right? chibishun, ah ic.. should i put chibushun too at front page? hehe
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#74
14th April 2009, 05:46 PM
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Read our posts properly, we(or at least I) said nothing about it being good or bad, or how we are hating ayu for doing it or whatever, yeah, we are talking about lipsynching because its an issue that belongs to ayu and her tours, you could say we are comparing the amount of lipsynching to see if it became more or less and set it in relation to the performance that was synched
There was one sentence about it with nobody replying and you dig it up completely...lets hope theres no crazy ayu supporters and crazy ayu haters coming here now... Last edited by noidea; 14th April 2009 at 05:53 PM.
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#75
14th April 2009, 05:54 PM
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In happy ending, it was the acting that made her lip-synch... And if she did that on alterna, it was because of the dancing, for example... IMO her older concerts were a bit boring cause she didn't move much even in the upbeat songs... The performaces that seens to be lip-synch are very reasonble...and most of them are very memorable ones =)About Marionette... if i'm not wrong, the news reports uses the last date... in this case, the same one that was used on the tv version of AT08
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#76
14th April 2009, 05:56 PM
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By the way... it looks like she is lip-synching the same amount over the years since she started doing this...
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#77
14th April 2009, 05:59 PM
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oh yea i've read you guys' posts properly.. but back to the point, you guys still talk about her lipsynch-ing in some performances...even talking about from her previous ATs.. and i don't bring about "lipsynch is bad" issue here, i'm just saying.. what's the point to point out that she sometimes does lipsynch? probably, you should open a new thread where you can discuss how many songs in each ATs that Ayu did lipsynch..because this thread is for AT09 and we suppose to talk about AT09~ not other ATs' Ayu-lipsynch-ing issue~ Last edited by AyUmIXx; 14th April 2009 at 06:08 PM.
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#78
14th April 2009, 06:08 PM
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I explained why this topic has to do with AT09 and I will open a new thread about it, if youre that vehement, ill do it in a few minutes...I planned making it when I have a list about every concert, but ill do it later today then...
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#79
14th April 2009, 06:17 PM
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thanks for understanding my friend  it's way much better to discuss all about Ayu lipsynch on a new thread rather than in here and waiting for your so called ayu crazy fans and ayu crazy haters to come visit your thread ok back to AT09 anyway, i forgot to thanks Calico for his/her wonderful review!!!! you're amazing could remember everythinggg!! enjoy reading yours too!! Last edited by AyUmIXx; 14th April 2009 at 06:19 PM.
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#80
14th April 2009, 06:24 PM
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Sorry about the off-topic xD
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