[Charts & Rankings] Oricon Thread -Take 7-

[AyuGAME]

its really weird, that EXILE best album still selling very well
i mean...they have been released a LOT of best album NON STOP!!!
it make me hate them..because they really milking money from fans...

[TITANIC]

if on friday index less than 50K, they have no chance to push AC down

[Luv ~Venus~]

Originally Posted by AyuGAME

its really weird, that EXILE best album still selling very well
i mean...they have been released a LOT of best album NON STOP!!!
it make me hate them..because they really milking money from fans...

...and Ayumi doesn't? I guess releasing two seperate best albums, 1 studio album, 2 remix albums, 2 singles, a DVD and then a complication album within a year and half time isn't milking money from fans either huh.

[AyuGAME]

^no..she doesn't...
its different...

[kang daesung]

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~

...and Ayumi doesn't? I guess releasing two seperate best albums, 1 studio album, 2 remix albums, 2 singles, a DVD and then a complication album within a year and half time isn't milking money from fans either huh.

Exactly!

[Luv ~Venus~]

Originally Posted by AyuGAME

^no..she doesn't...
its different...

If she doesn't then EXILE doesn't either.
And exactly how is it different?

Originally Posted by kang daesung

Exactly!

LOL! It doesn't help that except for the 2 remix albums, she released multiple versions of her albums, singles, (I meant to say she released 4 singles not 2 singles....doesn't exactly help her huh. ) and DVD. On top of that, she's doing all of these expensive tours that I really don't see no point in doing every year other than to milk money from fans. =/ IINM, she's released more than the top j-pop females this year. But yeah, I guess that's not milking money from her fans since it's Ayumi Hamasaki aka Kween uufu J-paapu.

[KarenPang]

omg at EXILE , their sales are so scary O_O

& congrats to my BREAKREZ boys for getting their 1st Top 10 position , album wise

[ayumisrael]

SINGLES
x->1->1->1 - KAT-TUN - 69,673 + 31,631 + 11,719 (x1.75) = 197,790
x->2->2->2 - GReeeeN - 6,795 + 6,131 + 2,822 (x1.75) = 27,559

ALBUMS
x->1->1->1 - EXILE - 185,875 + 132,277 + 66,836 (x1.7) = 654,480
x->2->2->2 - Macross F - 18,882 + 11,700 + 5,024 (x1.7) = 60,530
1->3->3->3 - Nakashima Mika - 5,574 + 5,575 + 5,138 + 4,138 (x1.7) = 34,723

[KarenPang]

^ thanks for the updates dude

my god look at the sales gap between the singles & albums (1st & 2nd spot wise) , so scary O_O

[AyuGAME]

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~

If she doesn't then EXILE doesn't either.
And exactly how is it different?

(EXILE release 3 best album in this year...)
unfortunately, my english isn't good enough to defend my opinion...
but its different...period...

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~

it's Ayumi Hamasaki aka Kween uufu J-paapu.

ITS NOT FUNNY AT ALL!!!
you really...have no manner...
i feel so mad when read that line...
you show no respect to her and generally to her fans, included me...

HELLO?!
its ayumi hamasaki forum!!!
AHS = Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai (the world of Ayumi Hamasaki)
if you don't like her anymore...then...
for what you still staying here?
looks like you come here, just to start war with everyone...

i'm done with you
thank you...

[TITANIC]

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~

LOL! It doesn't help that except for the 2 remix albums, she released multiple versions of her albums, singles, (I meant to say she released 4 singles not 2 singles....doesn't exactly help her huh. ) and DVD. On top of that, she's doing all of these expensive tours that I really don't see no point in doing every year other than to milk money from fans. =/ IINM, she's released more than the top j-pop females this year. But yeah, I guess that's not milking money from her fans since it's Ayumi Hamasaki aka Kween uufu J-paapu.

HELLO Kween uufu jealous with ayu's popularity more than .....
u should have a brain check. This is forum for ppl who likes ayu.
if you dont like ayu PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz, NEVER EVER talk about ayu.

your post doesnt make sense and you are off topic

Expensive, glamour, beauty. those are her images as a trendsetter.

u dont see the point of expensive tour because you're blind





SINGLES (2008.12.05)

-- -- -- -- *1 *1→*1　KAT-TUN 「White X'mas」
-- -- -- -- *2 *2→*2　GReeeeN 「扉」
*6 *5 *5 *3 11 *7↑*3　秋元順子 「愛のままで…」
-- -- -- -- *5 *4→*4　いきものがかり 「気まぐれロマンティック」
-- -- -- -- *3 *3＼*5　石川智晶 「Prototype」
-- -- -- -- *6 *6→*6　Gackt 「Jesus」
-- -- -- -- *4 *5＼*7　ナイトメア 「NAKED LOVE」
-- -- -- -- *8 *8→*8　Dragon Ash 「繋がりSUNSET」
*4 *3 *3 *2 *9 11／*9　JUJU 「素直になれたら JUJU feat.Spontania/I can be free」
*5 *2 *4 *4 14 14↑10　UVERworld 「儚くも永久のカナシ」
21 19 14 16 37 29↑11　矢島美容室 「ニホンノミカタ -ネバダカラキマシタ-」
*1 *1 *1 *1 *7 10＼12　EXILE 「LAST CHRISTMAS」
-- -- -- -- 19 12＼13　MONGOL800 「special thanks!!」
-- -- -- -- 13 13＼14　斉藤和義 「おつかれさまの国」
11 14 11 10 25 23↑15　コブクロ 「時の足音」
-- -- -- -- 16 15＼16　福原美穂 「LOVE～winter song～」
*2 *4 *7 *5 18 20／17　w-inds. 「Everyday/CAN'T GET BACK」
-- -- -- -- 17 18→18　矢井田瞳&恋バスBAND with 小田和正 「恋バス」
16 *8 *8 *6 29 25↑19　嵐 「Beautiful days」
-- -- -- -- 35 26↑20　class 「冬の日の2009」
-- -- -- -- 32 19＼21　JYONGRI 「Winter Love Story」
*3 *7 *2 *7 26 24／22　Acid Black Cherry 「ジグソー」
13 12 10 *8 28 33↑23　Perfume 「Dream Fighter」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑24　Mr.Children 「HANABI」
-- -- -- -- 15 17↓25　DJ OZMA 「MASURAO」
17 18 18 15 40 39↑26　平原綾香 「ノクターン/カンパニュラの恋」
12 15 *6 12 31 22↓27　DREAMS COME TRUE 「連れてって 連れてって」
10 13 17 14 35 42↑28　竹内まりや 「縁の糸」
-- -- -- 34 39 40↑29　ジェロ 「海雪」
35 38 37 23 -- --↑30　藤岡藤巻と大橋のぞみ 「崖の上のポニョ」
14 *6 *9 *9 30 35↑31　榎本くるみ 「冒険彗星」
-- -- -- -- 10 21↓32　安倍なつみ 「スクリーン」
-- -- -- -- 45 30＼33　DA BUBBLE GUM BROTHERS 「Daddy's Party Night(懲りないオヤジの応援歌)」
-- -- -- -- 24 28↓34　MAY'S 「KISS～恋におちて...冬～」
*8 11 12 17 43 45↑35　倉木麻衣 「24 Xmas time」
-- -- -- -- -- 31↓36　三門忠司 「博多川」
36 31 33 27 -- --↑37　アンジェラ・アキ 「手紙 ～拝啓 十五の君へ～」
-- -- -- -- 12 16↓38　COLOR 「With you ～Luv merry X'mas～」
-- -- -- -- 21 27↓39　上木彩矢 「世界はそれでも変わりはしない」
25 20 16 19 42 41／40　中島美嘉 「ORION」
18 16 15 18 41 43／41　SPEED 「あしたの空」
42 26 23 24 -- --↑42　Hey!Say!JUMP 「真夜中のシャドーボーイ」
*9 10 13 13 33 36↓43　L'Arc～en～Ciel 「Hurry Xmas」
-- -- -- -- 34 38↓44　YA-KYIM 「「君がいるだけで/さあ行こう!」-“RESPECT” 4 tracks E.P-」
-- -- -- -- 23 46／45　D'espairsRay 「HORIZON」
-- -- -- -- 38 34↓46　SuG 「虜ロォルカラァ(UMBILICAL/宴ぴーぽぉ)」
19 21 22 22 49 49／47　Diggy-MO' 「爆走夢歌」
15 23 19 20 46 50／48　INFINITY 16 welcomes MINMI,若旦那&HAN-KUN from 湘南乃風,GOKI 「Dream Believer ～星に願いを～」
-- -- -- -- 22 32↓49　TRIPLANE 「白い花」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑50　羞恥心 「羞恥心」

-- -- -- -- 20 *9↓--　宮野真守 「…君へ」
-- -- -- -- 27 37↓--　KOTOKO 「U make 愛 dream」
-- -- -- -- 47 44↓--　RIKI 「Super Wave」
-- -- -- -- -- 46↓--　JAYWALK 「Deja-vu ～君がいた夏～」
-- -- -- -- -- 48↓--　毛皮のマリーズ 「ビューティフル/愛する or die」

ALBUMS (2008.12.05)

-- -- -- -- *1 *1→*1　EXILE 「EXILE BALLAD BEST」
-- -- -- -- *2 *2→*2　菅野よう子 「マクロスF(フロンティア)VOCAL COLLECTION 娘たま♀」
*1 *1 *1 *1 *3 *3→*3　中島美嘉 「VOICE」
*3 *2 *2 *2 *7 *5／*4　V.A. 「アイのうた2」
*2 *3 *4 *3 *9 *7／*5　清水翔太 「Umbrella」
-- -- -- -- *5 *6→*6　ブリトニー・スピアーズ 「サーカス」
-- -- -- -- *4 *4＼*7　ORANGE RANGE 「裏 SHOPPING」
-- -- -- -- 11 *8→*8　V.A. 「DJ KAORI'S INMIXⅣ」
-- -- -- -- 10 10／*9　平原綾香 「Path of independence」
*5 *4 *3 *4 12 11／10　flumpool 「Unreal」
18 14 15 10 13 12／11　エンヤ 「雪と氷の旋律」
*4 *5 *5 *6 14 13／12　V.A. 「スタジオジブリの歌」
*6 *6 *6 *7 16 15／13　SUM 41 「ザ・ベスト・オブ・SUM41 -出血暴飲感涙ベスト-」
23 24 23 22 -- 40↑14　稲垣潤一 「男と女 -TWO HEARTS TWO VOICES-」
*7 *7 *7 *5 15 17／15　ガンズ・アンド・ローゼズ 「チャイニーズ・デモクラシー」
*9 *8 *9 *8 18 16→16　竹内まりや 「Expressions」
20 18 19 12 24 23↑17　サラ・ブライトマン 「冬のシンフォニー」
13 15 14 16 25 18→18　マライア・キャリー 「マライア・ザ・バラード」
-- -- -- -- 32 21／19　オムニバス 「とくダネ! 朝のヒットスタジオ Vol.1」
16 13 12 *9 26 26↑20　ビヨンセ 「アイ・アム...サーシャ・フィアース」
33 41 21 21 27 28↑21　綾小路きみまろ 「爆笑スーパーライブ第3集! ～知らない人に笑われ続けて35年～」
15 20 26 23 -- 19＼22　エリック・マーティン 「MR.ボーカリスト」
-- -- -- -- 21 14↓23　ヒラリー・ダフ 「ベスト・オブ・ヒラリー・ダフ」
38 31 25 30 -- 41↑24　V.A. 「.LOVE」
-- -- -- -- 22 20↓25　エイコン 「フリーダム」
24 27 36 26 17 24＼26　イル・ディーヴォ 「プロミス」
*8 *9 13 11 31 33↑27　SEAMO 「SCRAP&BUILD」
12 10 10 13 19 25＼28　NEWS 「color」
-- -- -- -- *6 *9↓29　ドラマ 「コードギアス 反逆のルルーシュR2 Sound Episode6」
19 17 16 15 29 32／30　加藤ミリヤ 「BEST DESTINY」
-- -- -- -- 28 27↓31　スコット・マーフィー 「Guilty Pleasures 3」
11 11 17 19 36 36↑32　Salyu 「Merkmal」
-- -- -- -- 34 30＼33　GReeeeN 「あっ、ども。おひさしぶりです。」
36 25 20 28 -- --↑34　ヘキサゴンオールスターズ 「WE LOVE ヘキサゴン」
10 16 18 18 39 35→35　PUSHIM 「RENAISSANCE」
17 12 11 14 30 31↓36　YUI 「MY SHORT STORIES」
48 46 39 42 45 37→37　V.A. 「Around40～アラフォー～」
25 23 27 17 41 42↑38　capsule 「MORE!MORE!MORE!」
-- -- -- -- 23 34↓39　BIGMAMA 「Dowsing For The Future」
-- -- -- -- 20 29↓40　カニエ・ウェスト 「808s&ハートブレイク」
14 19 *8 20 38 44／41　BREAKERZ 「BIG BANG!」
28 31 31 27 49 46↑42　クリスティーナ・アギレラ 「キープス・ゲッティン・ベター～グレイテスト・ヒッツ」
26 29 33 32 -- 50↑43　CHEMISTRY 「Winter of Love」
40 40 35 33 -- --↑44　秋元順子 「セカンド・ストーリー」
21 21 22 24 48 48／45　槇原敬之 「Personal Soundtracks」
49 -- 41 40 50 44＼46　童子-T 「12 Love Stories」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑47　Ne-Yo(ニーヨ) 「イヤー・オブ・ザ・ジェントルマン+3」
-- -- -- -- -- --初48　オムニバス 「GIFT-TRIBUTE TO SCAFULL KING」
-- -- -- -- -- 39↓49　マイア 「シュガー&スパイス」
-- -- -- -- *8 22↓50　OSTER project feat.初音ミク 「みくのかんづめ」

-- -- -- -- 33 38↓--　柴咲コウ 「Kou Shibasaki Best Special Box」
-- -- -- -- -- 43↓--　GReeeeN 「あっ、ども。はじめまして。(08.12)」
-- -- -- -- 40 47↓--　Noa 「LUCY LOVE」
41 33 29 29 -- 49↓--　V.A. 「ラブレター」

[Luv ~Venus~]

Originally Posted by AyuGAME

(EXILE release 3 best album in this year...)
unfortunately, my english isn't good enough to defend my opinion...
but its different...period...

ITS NOT FUNNY AT ALL!!!
you really...have no manner...
i feel so mad when read that line...
you show no respect to her and generally to her fans, included me...

HELLO?!
its ayumi hamasaki forum!!!
AHS = Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai (the world of Ayumi Hamasaki)
if you don't like her anymore...then...
for what you still staying here?
looks like you come here, just to start war with everyone...

Oh here we go with the "my english isn't good enough yet I type an entire post w/o english grammatical errors" excuse. I just read and understood everything you just said. DDD:

But well anyway. Yea, it's your opinion and I definitely respect that but I just think it's a biased opinion. It is not different at all. Ayumi (and others) has done the same stuff that EXILE is doing now. Ayumi had released 3 remix albums in one day 3 times at one point. On top of that, she had released 2 studio albums in one year like 2 or 3 times. Not to mention that she has at one point released a single, album, and DVD in one day. =/ I remember reading that during 2001, Ayumi released like 40 cds. I mean, c'mon. If that wasn't "milking her fans" then what was it?

And I wasn't here to start anything. Just because it's called Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai doesn't literally mean don't criticize Ayu and only talk about Ayu. IINM, this forum was made for the soul purpose for asian music fans (and the like) who are fans of ayu (or not) to discuss Ayu and other artists along with getting to know different people around the world. It just makes me wonder do most of you who are hardcore ayu fans just spend all of you time on here everyday in the Ayu section of the forum only. It's like Ayu is the only artist that exist in jpop to some of you. If that's true than that's not good at all. DDDDD:

Originally Posted by riozz

HELLO Kween uufu jealous with ayu's popularity more than .....
u should have a brain check. This is forum for ppl who likes ayu.
if you dont like ayu PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz, NEVER EVER talk about ayu.

your post doesnt make sense and you are off topic

Expensive, glamour, beauty. those are her images as a trendsetter.

u dont see the point of expensive tour because you're blind

ERM, HELLO! This is a forum for people who likes ayu not worship every single thing she does. If you worship ayu PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz get out more bb.

And you missed the point of my saying I don't understand why she does all of these expensive tours every year. I was saying I don't see the point in her touring every year (2 times every year at that) other than milk money from fans. =/

[TITANIC]

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~

ERM, HELLO! This is a forum for people who likes ayu not worship every single thing she does. If you worship ayu PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz get out more bb.

And you missed the point of my saying I don't understand why she does all of these expensive tours every year. I was saying I don't see the point in her touring every year (2 times every year at that) other than milk money from fans. =/

a tour is for promoting her album that be released. almost every single artist do that. u can see kuu BoA Namie,etc

even 2 tours in a year and all her tours always full of fans.
and YES, they are her royal fans.

arent they doing tour every year???YES, THEY ARE


hahaha so funny.
and tragically, all of her fans still enthusias with her tour and every releases.

are you being disturbed with her tour and all of her releases?
Leave to talk about ayu is the best medicine for you

[Luv ~Venus~]

Originally Posted by riozz

a tour is for promoting her album that be released. almost every single artist do that. u can see kuu BoA Namie,etc

even 2 tours in a year and all her tours always full of fans.
and YES, they are her royal fans.

arent they doing tour every year???YES, THEY ARE


hahaha so funny.
and tragically, all of her fans still enthusias with her tour and every releases.

are you being disturbed with her tour and all of her releases?
Leave to talk about ayu is the best medicine for you

Umm, all that you just said, I already knew. =/ Except for Kuu, the other artists that you mentioned rarely release like Ayumi does nor tour as much as her.

And no I'm not distured with her touring and all of her releases. =/ If you weren't so quick to judge me, I actually think Days is one her most enjoyable songs i na long time and I really loved the covers. One of her best in a while. If you're still sore about me making jokes or whatever about ayu during Mirrorcle World phase, you definitely need to lighten up. It's not the end of the world just because people criticize Ayu and her works.

[Peger]

Venus has a point. Ayumi has released just as many compilation albums as EXILE in the last two years. I don't understand why people get so upset over things like that, every avex artist that achieves some level of popularity gets this type of treatment. They're not taking advantage of anyone because no one is obligated to buy these CDs. If people insist on buying an album with songs they already have on six other CDs it's their own problem.

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by Peger

Venus has a point. Ayumi has released just as many compilation albums as EXILE in the last two years. I don't understand why people get so upset over things like that, every avex artist that achieves some level of popularity gets this type of treatment. They're not taking advantage of anyone because no one is obligated to buy these CDs. If people insist on buying an album with songs they already have on six other CDs it's their own problem.

Exactly, welll said and I highly agree.
I will add to that - people also insist on buying tickets and going to shows.
If they wouldn't like it or would see it as milking their money the whole touring every year wouldn't be good thing since all of the tour money would go to waste and no one would go see so if there is no demand, no touring nor compilations at the points.
Fans/listeners milk the artists and make them work hard for them (both with releases and tours) and it's not really easy to do all those stuff, it's not like you cast a magic spell and everything's ready for you.
If people in japan (or the majority) would hate ayu touring or releasing too much they would do something (or actually do nothing not buying tickets or buying her cds at all) and she wouldn't do both a lot from the first place and not only her, other artists as well so touring and quick releasing isn't ending only at milking money, it's for demand and being an artist (excluding the compilations but as been said people insist on buying them).
I don't think that in order to be a good artist you have to release an album once in 3 years and barely tour your entire career. At one point I think touring a lot is even kind of important since the fans can see their artist performing the songs they like in front of their eyes and the artist enjoys performing to them after the hard work he's put in his concert.
Fans & artist interaction.

[TITANIC]

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~

Umm, all that you just said, I already knew. =/ Except for Kuu, the other artists that you mentioned rarely release like Ayumi does nor tour as much as her.

And no I'm not distured with her touring and all of her releases. =/ If you weren't so quick to judge me, I actually think Days is one her most enjoyable songs i na long time and I really loved the covers. One of her best in a while. If you're still sore about me making jokes or whatever about ayu during Mirrorcle World phase, you definitely need to lighten up. It's not the end of the world just because people criticize Ayu and her works.

ah Great if you like Days

is that only mirrorcle phase???
review back to your old post, not only Mirrorcle world case you're joking about ayu.

who says this is the end of the world with your critize about ayu?


well, almost your post about ayu only to humiliate..if you can say that's your opinion then me too

[CoriKaru]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

I don't think that in order to be a good artist you have to release an album once in 3 years and barely tour your entire career.

Utada PUNCH!

But yeah, that goes the other way 'round as well.

[Luv ~Venus~]

SINGLES
x->1->1->1->1 - KAT-TUN - 69,673 + 31,631 + 11,719 + 6,505 (x1.75) = 209,174
x->2->2->2->2 - GReeeeN - 6,795 + 6,131 + 2,822 + 1,822 (x1.75) = 30,748

ALBUMS
x->1->1->1->1 - EXILE - 185,875 + 132,277 + 66,836 + 62,960 (x1.7) = 761,512
x->2->2->2->2 - Macross F - 18,882 + 11,700 + 5,024 + 5,252 (x1.7) = 69,459
1->3->3->3->3 - Nakashima Mika - 5,574 + 5,575 + 5,138 + 4,138 + 3,877 (x1.7) = 41,313

Omg! Exile just may get a milli for the first week. O= They have hardly dropped at all and they have already over taken Namie for highest first week sales of the year. AVEX planned this album at the right time.

[KarenPang]

^ that's really scary still O_O

poor KAT-TUN , looks like they cannot crack the 300K mark in the 1st week

then again it's understood since both editions have limited pressings

& I WANT TO GET THE SINGLE BUT STOCK HAVEN'T COME YET HERE T_T