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Old 7th April 2012, 04:45 PM
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the song is so good forever on repeat
the hardcore part really remind me of H.O.T dark days
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Am I allowed to post a download link? The song's already out.

http://www.mediafire.com/?jv0y9t23c8bx6yn

The melody isn't the most original, but it's good nonetheless. I'm slightly prejudiced against SM, but I can't deny that they've put a lot of effort into this group.
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Old 7th April 2012, 05:08 PM
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OH MY GOD

OH MY GOD

I JUST CANNOT.

SORRY I CAN'T MAKE A LOGICAL POST NOW BYE I'LL SEE YOU IN A FEW HOURS.
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Old 7th April 2012, 05:13 PM
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ASDFGHJKL!!!
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ALL THAT D.O. IN THE MV MADE ME THE HAPPIEST PERSON IN EARTH
NOW I NEED TO WATCH IT AGAIN AND AGAIN UNTIL I DIE
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Old 7th April 2012, 05:15 PM
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I really wonder why SM has to exaggerate everything! This PV is sooooo over the top, epecially the beginning!

EXO gives Dan Brown a run for his money!


Nevertheless, I love the song and can't wait for their debut album!
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Old 7th April 2012, 05:34 PM
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Am I allowed to post a download link? The song's already out.

http://www.mediafire.com/?jv0y9t23c8bx6yn

The melody isn't the most original, but it's good nonetheless. I'm slightly prejudiced against SM, but I can't deny that they've put a lot of effort into this group.
HAHHA me too :X
but im really attracted to this because its so different and yea, over-the-top it may be..it caught my attention ahhaha
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Old 7th April 2012, 05:47 PM
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My only complaint: No one, who care about me?

Couldn't they at least get this right?
No one to care about me.
No one who cares about me.
No one--who cares about me?

They're the most prosperous entertainment agency in South Korea and they can't hire one fluent English speaker to check their lyrics before they are made public.
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Old 7th April 2012, 06:11 PM
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^ Yeah well, you'll have to get used to this if you want to listen to Asian music (not only Korean music, Japan and China do it too!).

I sometimes find it extremely annoying too, but when the rest of the song is good, then I always try not to let it bother me!
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Old 7th April 2012, 06:59 PM
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I know, I've endured quite enough of it in J-Rock when I was into the genre, but it's a different matter with K-Pop. English tends to blend into the lyrics and sometimes even manages to sound Japanese; K-Pop is much more commercial, so I would have expected SM Entertainment to be more attentive. It irks me, because they strive for perfection with everything else but don't seem to care as much about grammatical errors. They should have had that part of the song in Latin if they were going to let a mistake slide.

I'm hoping there's a composer among them. SM should give their trainees an opportunity to study composition. I'm sure there are some hidden talents out there and there's a bigger chance of their surfacing if they are nudged.
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They should have had that part of the song in Latin if they were going to let a mistake slide.
Uh, I don't even want to imagine what kind of mistakes they would have made in Latin. I study Latin and this language is very dear to me, so yeah...!

Sometimes SM takes care of the English lyrics, but most of the time the Grammar is not correct or the English lyrics make no sense at all ("Mr. Simple" by Super Junior comes to my mind! - "Because I naughty, naughty!" ).
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I love MAMA it's really edgy .
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Old 7th April 2012, 11:50 PM
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Uh, I don't even want to imagine what kind of mistakes they would have made in Latin. I study Latin and this language is very dear to me, so yeah...!

Sometimes SM takes care of the English lyrics, but most of the time the Grammar is not correct or the English lyrics make no sense at all ("Mr. Simple" by Super Junior comes to my mind! - "Because I naughty, naughty!" ).
Really? I've only recently started and I study in my free time. It's so strange to come across someone who appreciates it, and on a forum at that! It's a beautiful language, and with the orchestra, and the atmosphere the song sets, I would have imagined they'd go for Latin, or some other romance language. French perhaps? English and classical music are not my favourite blend.
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Old 8th April 2012, 01:22 AM
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Really? I've only recently started and I study in my free time. It's so strange to come across someone who appreciates it, and on a forum at that! It's a beautiful language, and with the orchestra, and the atmosphere the song sets, I would have imagined they'd go for Latin, or some other romance language. French perhaps? English and classical music are not my favourite blend.
Jup, I LOVE this language! It's really interesting and it's kind of cool when you can read writers like Ovid and Homer in Latin!
And I also really love listening to Gregorian chorals and this music makes me appreciate Latin even more!


To be honest, when I listened to "Mama" for the first time, I really thought they were singing in Latin, but when I listening to the song a second time I was like: "Erm, no wait a second, there is something wrong here!"
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Old 8th April 2012, 01:57 AM
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^You can already read books? I admire you, I wish I had more time to spend on it, or all the time to sit in books just to get closer to the language the Romans spoke. I take it you like Ayu's BRILLANTE? I see more and more popular singers experiment with music nowadays. Who would have thought a K-Pop group would debut with a song like MAMA? I guess it's all about the shock value, and it's all been done at one point, so it might as well be done again (like the two of us, studying a dead language! ). For a second I also thought they were singing in Latin until I heard the "care about me" bit, and it was bothering me so I looked up the lyrics. I'm curious about the Chinese version. I wouldn't spot it, but apparently their pronunciation isn't that great? I thought some of them were Chinese, Kris for instance?
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Without the Chinese subtitles, I can barely understand them
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Old 8th April 2012, 04:48 AM
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^thats true. its really hard at some parts. I think the chorus is nice though..quite rhym-y
though when they sing 告诉我MAMA it's hilarious because in chinese MAMA means mother...so that line became "Tell my mother mother mother" LOLLLL

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[CHANT] Careless Careless Shoot Anonymous Anonymous
Heartless Mindless No one who care about me

The feeling of being depressed
Nobody cares but only tolerate
I can no longer accept this
I close both my eyes

MAMA could you please tell me why people change
All those beautiful days we've heard, did they really exist?
I've forgotten that I should have tried my best to love her (it's weird the subtitles use the male version of the character 'ta', which means "him")
I've forgotten that my heart condoned her
Did we pretend to look busy when we led our lives alone?

[PRE-CHORUS] The invisibility behind the mask contains many expressions
In the end, everything remains the same* (a proverb here is used to describe how the start and end is still the same)
Is this really better?

[CHORUS] Do we really want this? To avoid each other's gaze?
To not speak to me? To not say you love me?
Even if we are hurt and tears fall like the rain
Change will solve the problem
Change will get us there
Tell me MAMA MAMA

I can't remember the time when we were trapped in our own clever thinking
My world exists only between the creation of 0 and 1 (sorry, this is kinda weird lol)
With no life, no feeling, we lead our lives everyday in no accordance
The longer it is, the lonelier it gets
And we ourselves get hurt and depressed

Meeting and holding hands, feeling from the tears and smiles
At closer frequency, we happily connect
Can this all come back?

[PRE-CHORUS]-repeat
[CHORUS]-repeat

[RAP] In the end, I scream in anger, I bolt off, I heat up, not wanting the world to turn cold
Please help me MAMA MAMA MAMA MAMA turn back
Tell me MAMA MAMA MAMA MAMA rolling back
Chase and lose control, seeing who becomes more aloof, no game would do such a thing
Please help me MAMA MAMA MAMA MAMA turn back
YEAH

[CHANT]-repeat

As I've received the blessing, I'm able to feel true happiness
I want to meet new people everyday
Piecing together the broken heart and with the innocence of love
I'll find the meaning and truth(realness?) behind my initial smile

[CHORUS]-repeat
[CHANT]-repeat

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Old 8th April 2012, 05:02 AM
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LOL I thought that lyrics were supposed to be like that..."tell me mommy"
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Old 8th April 2012, 06:55 AM
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i love the MV & song (besides the annoying intro)
i was shocked SM actually had more than $10 in their MV budget this time
the dancing was hot too. can't wait for the lives!
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I see where all the money went into resulting in Suju's sad MV plots..lol
i read that MAMA means King in korean?
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