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Old 24th March 2003, 02:26 PM
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Ha ha ha!!!! Your so funny man! You dont give up do you.
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Old 24th March 2003, 02:30 PM
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so this post still lives...lol

Well, as I said before, I'm not gonna say your idea is garbage and you should leave, but the idea is... you said it was a theory before, but yet you continue to claim it's true. So just because I look tired one day, does that mean I'm wasted? It could be merely because I didn't get enough sleep. I've seen people do far more things in a day than I could in a week, but that doesn't mean they're smiking weed. As stated before, the weed icon is just some pop culture thing, not to say that Ayu's using it. If I had some Thundercats shirt on, does that make me a fan of it? Not necessarily... it's just nostalgic to see such a thing still today.. it's just a symbol. Teachers teach, Swimmers swim, Runners run, but all of that doesn't mean they take drugs. Prove to us otherwise that she does take drugs and I'll personally give you some type of reward for finding the "truth" , but as of now, your idea to me is still invalid.
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Old 24th March 2003, 02:33 PM
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Ha ha Ha! Dun mind him omega! He just wants us to get mad...
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Old 24th March 2003, 02:35 PM
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Ha ha Ha! Dun mind him omega! He just wants us to get mad...
No I don't, maybe that's what has been assumed of me, but I brought it up to have a discussion about it, not waste my time trying to annoy a bunch of kids on the internet or whatever.
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Old 24th March 2003, 02:37 PM
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Yeah sure whatever you say! I BELIEVE IN EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID!
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Old 24th March 2003, 02:40 PM
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This reminds me of a topic I made back at old AHS ....I made a poll of "What do you dislike most about Ayu" , and I got some negative comments from it from people thinking I hated Ayu, but it was just to see what people may say, not to start arguments. Not everyone is perfect in the world, not even Ayu, so it was just to see who would actually speak up or not.
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Old 24th March 2003, 02:46 PM
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No I don't, maybe that's what has been assumed of me, but I brought it up to have a discussion about it, not waste my time trying to annoy a bunch of kids on the internet or whatever
We? A bunch of kids? look whos talking. Ha ha! you dont act mature yourself.
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Old 24th March 2003, 02:47 PM
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...I got some negative comments from it from people thinking I hated Ayu, but it was just to see what people may say, not to start arguments. Not everyone is perfect in the world, not even Ayu, so it was just to see who would actually speak up or not.
That's exactly what I've done, although I admit it's probably a bit worse as it's concerned with narcotics, but contrary to what people think I am actually a fan, and like you say, not everyone can be perfect, shock * horror, not even Ayu... And another aspect of what I was trying to discuss was the theory of "Hamasaki Ayumi" not just "Ayu" because they are two different entities, even though they are the same person..
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Old 24th March 2003, 02:50 PM
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We? A bunch of kids?...
Are you denying that a lot of the initiates are quite young? Therefore I expected them to reject what I had to say because they're still at the age where they're oblivious to things like that.. "Drugs are bad.. That's that"
That's why it's better when people who had some knowledge of it responded, because at least it was from a more open-minded perspective..
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Old 24th March 2003, 02:53 PM
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Old 24th March 2003, 02:55 PM
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not everyone can be perfect, shock * horror, not even Ayu...
This guy's funny...lol... I'll give him points on actually having the guts to post a topic such as this, but of course, you did know that you'd almost surely get attacked for your comments (not that I think you're 100% right either...lol)
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Old 24th March 2003, 02:59 PM
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He said he dosnt waste time on kids like us. Then what the hell was he doing for the past 110 post?
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Old 24th March 2003, 03:05 PM
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I imagine this debate like Joan of Arc against the church back in the day... very few people even believed her, and because of being a heretic, she was killed...

Not everyone, or even anyone, will agree with this... I'm sure he means that most of the people here can't handle the fact that someone's "bashing" Ayu, but as I've said many times, facts are more valid than theories..
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Old 24th March 2003, 04:15 PM
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I imagine this debate like Joan of Arc against the church back in the day... very few people even believed her, and because of being a heretic, she was killed...

Not everyone, or even anyone, will agree with this... I'm sure he means that most of the people here can't handle the fact that someone's "bashing" Ayu, but as I've said many times, facts are more valid than theories..
Well at least you've said "If you give me proof maybe I'll listen" Practically everyone else has said "No, I'll never believe it.."
In hindsight this thread was probably a mistake on my part, as everyone thinks I hate Ayu and am trying to discolour her name by mentioning it in the same sentence as drugs...

It's still been interesting for me to see how bringing up such a taboo topic on a forum like this has been received by the initiates, all I ever wanted was for people to think about it, not get totally worked up frothing at the mouth writing hate-induced replies directed at me or whatever...
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woohooo.......
really a hot spot up in ere...kinda late to reply to this thread...
anyway...

"Good symptom of Speed:
people who take Speed r energetic, they dun easily drop out, only need small amount of sleep can stay up for days, totally focused on what r they doin, even more creative, they do splendid jobs, determination r at full speed, confidence & THEY DO STANDS FIRM ON CERTAIN ASSUMPTION.

Bad symptom:
weight loss(mainly because loss of water from cells), memory relapses, you can easily spot the tiredness of the eye from the looks, totally fanatical on something that they do when they r under the influence, and they also CREATIVE ON CREATING CERTAIN ASSUMPTION TO OTHERS AS IF THEY'RE THE SAME AS WE R..."


ok..why do i wrote this...cuz:

"Ayu"
1) I dun believe ayu takes weed or heroin... cuz she dun hav these drugs symptoms...

2) Ayu do hav Speed's good symptom....but how bout those bad signs...NO I THINK...

3) She does looks like she took them
...BUT....
can we just take this...she's energetic(it's her nature),
she'd been through life's difficulties, so she knew what r the value and quality to be the best and what it takes to maintain her level,
she's just simply creative,
she's determined in what ever she did (although she didn't really like classes) cuz she had tasted the sweetness of succes,

____and of all cuz she's AYUMI HAMASAKI & she's a JAPANESE and she'll always ganbate...___



"elmstreet"
1) i dun believe u too take drugs ...why, cuz u have some other better things to do...if not u would be answering to all replies on this thread...ALTHOUGH,ALTHOUGH U DO HAVE SOME SYMPTOMS...

.......BUT......

1) Maybe it's just because u do think and act like that (i mean it's cuz your nature so it's up to u) and u can't help yourself for being brave and wants to share with us your thought...so just let it be....

FINALLY TAKE THIS...
AYU IS ENERGETIC, ELMSTREET IS BRAVE,
AYU HAV SPEED SYMPTOM, SO DO ELMSTREET,
BUT AYU DUN TAKE DRUGS, SO DO ELMSTREET,
CUZ EACH OF THEM HAV THEIR OWN MIND AND SELF...
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Old 25th March 2003, 08:16 PM
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woohooo.......
really a hot spot up in ere...kinda late to reply to this thread...
anyway...

"Good symptom of Speed:
people who take Speed r energetic, they dun easily drop out, only need small amount of sleep can stay up for days, totally focused on what r they doin, even more creative, they do splendid jobs, determination r at full speed, confidence & THEY DO STANDS FIRM ON CERTAIN ASSUMPTION.

Bad symptom:
weight loss(mainly because loss of water from cells), memory relapses, you can easily spot the tiredness of the eye from the looks, totally fanatical on something that they do when they r under the influence, and they also CREATIVE ON CREATING CERTAIN ASSUMPTION TO OTHERS AS IF THEY'RE THE SAME AS WE R..."


ok..why do i wrote this...cuz:

"Ayu"
1) I dun believe ayu takes weed or heroin... cuz she dun hav these drugs symptoms...

2) Ayu do hav Speed's good symptom....but how bout those bad signs...NO I THINK...

3) She does looks like she took them
...BUT....
can we just take this...she's energetic(it's her nature),
she'd been through life's difficulties, so she knew what r the value and quality to be the best and what it takes to maintain her level,
she's just simply creative,
she's determined in what ever she did (although she didn't really like classes) cuz she had tasted the sweetness of succes,

____and of all cuz she's AYUMI HAMASAKI & she's a JAPANESE and she'll always ganbate...___



"elmstreet"
1) i dun believe u too take drugs ...why, cuz u have some other better things to do...if not u would be answering to all replies on this thread...ALTHOUGH,ALTHOUGH U DO HAVE SOME SYMPTOMS...

.......BUT......

1) Maybe it's just because u do think and act like that (i mean it's cuz your nature so it's up to u) and u can't help yourself for being brave and wants to share with us your thought...so just let it be....

FINALLY TAKE THIS...
AYU IS ENERGETIC, ELMSTREET IS BRAVE,
AYU HAV SPEED SYMPTOM, SO DO ELMSTREET,
BUT AYU DUN TAKE DRUGS, SO DO ELMSTREET,
CUZ EACH OF THEM HAV THEIR OWN MIND AND SELF...
Very good post on the subject.
Elmstreet, do you know people who have had habits with these substances you mention?
Ive seen the effects of speed and other things on people over a period of time. I agree with the above post that I just dont see the warning signs there.
I dont think ayu smokes weed or does other drugs that are illegal. If she were a stoner she'd not likely be the hectic successful person she is now, not with her schedule.
If she were doing anything to aid her in being able to do all the things she does with such a schedule she would be doing some sort of upper. However, I see no signs of this present, especially the burnout.
We are all welcome to our opinions, I just dont interpret what I see in her as you do, and dont think you should be so sure without real evidence.
I think the pot leaf is a trend, nothing more, not an actual endorsment for the plant
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Old 27th March 2003, 03:22 PM
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Very good post on the subject.
Elmstreet, do you know people who have had habits with these substances you mention?
Yes, a close friend of mine used to do a lot of acid and speed back in the day, if you met her you would think she was fine, I mean, she's a really nice girl, she's cool, and she's always rushing around doing something, but once you get to know her you can see she's got a lot of problems.. I dunno, stemmed from the drugs or whatever.. So yeah, I have seen like the effects and things, I didn't come here ranting on about something I know nothing about...

These last two posts are basically the kind of replies I was looking for in this thread... I guess I phrased the whole thing wrong, but basically I wanted to write like, hey, imagine if Ayu was doing all these drugs, wouldn't that be totally screwed up, but I suppose that it came accross that I sounded like I knew 100% that she was using... Anyways, can I just say that Vadise' avartar scares the hell out of me.. I think she looks like she's snorted too many mitsu's and is about to have a heart attack.

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Old 27th March 2003, 03:39 PM
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lol.. i'm sorry.. but i like that avy ^^
i'm glad that things have calmed down in here though..
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Old 27th March 2003, 03:41 PM
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I wasn't dissin u or nothing bre, just dat Ayu look like she gon die or some crazy sheet.
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Old 27th March 2003, 03:47 PM
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She's just emotional and tired in that avatar because she finally caught up the other Ayu that she had been chasing for a while. It's called acting. I'd be panting too.

Excellent avatar, btw, Vadise! What program do you use to make those great avatars and signatures of yours?
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