[Translation] Asia Tour 2007 DVD

[leo_nardez]

lol..u guys funny dude...

seriously u guys must stop the complaining things,,, i know that u guys understand the translation~
please appreciate our engRish!

[AyUmIXx]

what? missing?
why??
so who's going to re-translate?
i'm about to translate to my language~

[ComatoseBunnySnatcher]

um... anyone have the rest translated O________O

[astameth]

try google cache..

One more time, thanks for the trad, for the rest...

[leo_nardez]

Pity those guys who havent finish reading the translation..
but I cant do anything, the translator request to delete it all..
so i can do nothing~~

@nippon: where do u get those avatar pic?

[AyUmIXx]

I know they're using translated sheets. But because it's in Chinese, they can't translate it into correct English? That's has nothing to do with it.

If I was translating it and wasn't that good at English, I would like some help to get it correctly so the final result is worth all the hard work.

well... if someone is willing to help them to translate, please PM them which parts that seem weird or hard to understand, but of course, that someone needs to read and understand the whole documentary or maybe watching it first before giving your critical views over somebody's translations on the thread.

no need to point all the mistakes out one by one...use PM~ i think that they can be much appreciating your kindness for telling the mistakes and they can edit it with your version of translation.

if they're still stubborn then i think the mistake is not on the readers~

Melrose, do you understand Japanese/mandarin? Do you have the Mandarin translation sheet? if you understand then i guess you can be a very big help for the translation because i've seen you being so critical towards their translations.

*peace ok?*

[the angel song]

Can someone else translate the last part? Clearly there is too much hostility from the past translator to post it, and I would love to know what was said in the last half of the documentary. Much thanks for all who helped in this and stuck it out through the crits! Really appreciate this great effort!

[syntherella]

Originally Posted by zoomzoom

And yea, Melrose is entitled to criticize all he wants, but he wasn't. He. Was. Helping. Some people are just too full of themselves to take any help, when they clearly need it.

I think everybody who has commented on this issue so far agrees Melrose made his comments with the good intention of clarifying vague or weird parts of alternarist's translation, and so do I. However, I've also observed that tension only developed after post 103, in which he pointed out, one by one, parts which he felt should be corrected for better understandability.

Originally Posted by AyUmIXx

well... if someone is willing to help them to translate, please PM them which parts that seem weird or hard to understand, but of course, that someone needs to read and understand the whole documentary or maybe watching it first before giving your critical views over somebody's translations on the thread.

I quite agree with AyUmIXx. While Melrose was and still is entitled to make constructive criticism, I feel he could have definitely been more subtle and polite about it. I've read the post in question several times, but each time his tone seemed to be unnecessarily interrogative and know-it-all, which would be quite unwelcome to anybody sharing his work. A good example would be:

Originally Posted by Melrose

Are you sure she said that? lol

That his profile indicates he is in the Netherlands and therefore probably, like alternarist, not a native English speaker, does not really help his case. Regardless of whether Melrose intended to be rude, I think he could have made a greater effort to be as civil as he initially was. Many of the users here for either side of the argument could have been more polite, too.

Originally Posted by AyUmIXx

*peace ok?*

Well said! I respect alternarist's decision to withdraw his translation of the AT07 documentary, and hope he shares more of his work in future. Many thanks to prussian_blue and leo_nardez as well. To everyone else who edited or suggested improvements, please keep doing so! It is much appreciated and definitely for the good of this international Ayu fan community. Cheers.

[leo_nardez]

^ hibobabu: u're such an angel~
lol..

[Ame.P]

I've yet to save them up and now they're gone....

Darn~

[AyUmIXx]

i heard from Leo that Prussian_blue will do the translation all over again...
and if anybody of you who can help them please contribute your works through PM to Leo/Prussian_blue (since alternarist is not longer the translator anymore) so we can have a proper english like somebody wish

thanks

alternarist: please calm yourself down.. just let it go.. ok?

[AyUmIXx]

prussian blue, oops sorry... i meant when Leo told me on MSN that he will ask you to make the translations and if you still want to do it, then we're all happy
if not... so yea, just hanging the translation in the half way..

and i can't help much because i can't read mandarin
if i can read mandarin perfectly then i may help..

[prussian blue]

^ i just remember i chat with you too along time ago... hehehehe...

so you want the translation?

i'll consider to do it since i'm quite busy lately...

but since there alot of people wanting some "perfect english" i dont think i'll make it

my english sucks...

melrose can proof it dont cha?

[JinHamasaki]

Originally Posted by prussian blue

^ i just remember i chat with you too along time ago... hehehehe...

so you want the translation?

i'll consider to do it since i'm quite busy lately...

but since there alot of people wanting some "perfect english" i dont think i'll make it

my english sucks...

melrose can proof it dont cha?

Uhmmm I can help you. I'm busy until May, though. English is my native language, plus I know chinese, and some Japanese.

When do you plan to start?

[prussian blue]

WOW~ you understand chinese? thats cool!!

ok if you want to help!

so there's no more "War" here~

you can PM leo_nardez

[leo_nardez]

^ ^

seems like a bit of peace has come out~
anyway anyway,
prussian blue seriously need to do a translation or else the rest who havent finished the translatio cant understand it..
and for those who want to suggest a change, eee..better PM the people this time, and dun make the same mistake!

^.^
peace!

^ Jinhamasaki: wow! yeah u can start anytime though but make sure u make an arrangement with prussian blue so that u guys wont translate the same thing~ ee..u can start from disc 2/dcumentary 7~~

[prussian blue]

^ are you going to say:

aaa~~ finally i can see the sunshine~ and the dawn is coming!?

hahahaha okok...

[AyUmIXx]

prussian blue, we ever chatted before??? hmmm ~

yay, finally someone throws a hand cool!
let's wait and see for the translation then

[JinHamasaki]

Originally Posted by leo_nardez

^ ^

seems like a bit of peace has come out~
anyway anyway,
prussian blue seriously need to do a translation or else the rest who havent finished the translatio cant understand it..
and for those who want to suggest a change, eee..better PM the people this time, and dun make the same mistake!

^.^
peace!

^ Jinhamasaki: wow! yeah u can start anytime though but make sure u make an arrangement with prussian blue so that u guys wont translate the same thing~ ee..u can start from disc 2/dcumentary 7~~

Haha..I can't start now....too busy with school. I can't read chinese very well, so I think the best way would be for you to translate it to English, and then I'll work out the grammar. If anything looks "off" then I'll look at the Chinese to see what I can pick out and "correct" it. If I still don't understand the Chinese, I'll just watch the documentary again and try to pick out the Japanese ^^;;

Not the easiest process....but hopefully I can help! I remember I helped YellowB for the NTV 2004 Interview and it was fun!

[Catzi]

I'd be very glad to help with this translation, since I'm almost done with my AT06 one. (Maybe like 2 more weeks.)