[Utada Hikaru] Utada's Burning it Up Like a Gay Parade in Her 31st Thread!

[Andrenekoi]

^ Yeap... People ask her for tie-ins cuz she is famous, and she gets more famous if she has a good tie-in... Can't see any problem on this...

There are different ways of promoting yourself... Hikki's promotion is music-based... she doesn't sell her looks, and that gives her some advantage cuz she is never going to be "too old" for releasing good music... on the other way, Ayu is alread having problems for being 30 years old, what is VERY OLD by japanese standarts... and she will need to find a way of being interesting for public even being "too old" (I think that she alread found this way).

Hikki's fashion is aweful... Her live singing is hit-or-miss... She has lot's of charisma but almost no stage presence... She likes to be a studio artist, and that's no problem with it... If someone wants a performer/live artist/trend setter, there is a lot of singers to choose... Hikki is not like this and she doesn't want to be like this

(I don't think that she is better than Ayu, Namie, Koda, etc. She is just diferent of them... And there are a lot of singers over the world that acts just like Hikki does... she is not even unique...)

[mcluva420]

Originally Posted by JackieRos

does anybody know if she got her tonsils out?

I was wondering the same thing...

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by ayumixfan

ugh another ayu stan bringing in how hikki's drama tie ins >_>. I mean seriously, u don't get to choose ur tie-ins, the company choose you for the tie-in. I'm really sick of people keep trying to make it seem like hikki purposely *****s herself out to get these tie-ins and such. If the company likes it they pick it. And I think she takes the tie-in more for the money than the fame lmao. She said herself that she can walk down the street and be okay in an interview in the US. People should really stop trying to hold those drama tie-ins against her. I mean seriously, commercial tie-ins are JUSt as good as drama tie-ins. They get aired on tv every freaking day. Let alone week. I think some people like to overexaggerate about hikki here. I mean seriously, if she cared so much about the fame, she'd be pulling so many stunts to get attention and such. I think she's REALLY subtle for an artist. Just because she has a few drama tie-ins and magazine tie-ins doesn't really show she's hungry for fame. I mean first off, these things aren't going to make you that famous. she you'll get known from it, but people are going to forget you right after the drama blows over. and it isn't like hikki purposely attempts to get media attention all the time unlike soem avex artists. She really doesn't do anything to stand out and grab people's attention to get famous.

Exscuse me? Another ayu stan? How can you claim such a thing?
I think that having at least 3 original copies albums by hikki is already making me at least someone who loves her music too and I can voice my opinion for it as well.
You are the hikki stan who's guarding hikki no matter what saying she is perfect, never complaining about her and not wanting to post on ayu's section because you know people "won't" accept your opinion because they are never positive, so now when someone says a bit of something that's not so positive towards your precious hikki he's an ayu stan? Gosh.
When people don't let you voice your opionins you call them rude.
Well you are rude for cutting their opinions off because it's not "OMG HIKKI YOU ARE A GODESS ONLY INTO THE MUSIC". Well you are just like those ayu stans, just hikki's.

If hikki for example didn't want she could choose not to write Flavor of Life for Hana Yori Dango 2.
Why do you think EMI even thinks to get her such a tie-in? Of course not because hikki asked, but because hikki will be happy to participate doing that.
I'm sure hikki isn't dumb and she knew (along with er PR & Management team) the result it might bring like from past usage of drama tie-ins.
Saying hikki is only about the music is being naive.
Basically if she wants people to hear her music she has to publicate it, specially now when she is not popular as she used to be.
She did it with HEART STATION with a lot of TV and magazine performances, she was pretty shoved to the public over that time besdies all of the dramas.
I still see nothing wrong that hikki would do performances so I don't understand why jumping.
Maybe because she is into money too?
I'm sure she knows all the consequences for the things she does, her way of promotion and marketing which serve hers and the company's purposes and since she is already a "few" good years on the industry she knows how much money she can earn from all of those projects so I doubt she's actually working hard for 100% the music.
She could sell it for free if she wanted to and if she wasn't about the money or at least not promote and market herself in any way. She could quit EMI and open an independent company, but she doesn't do it for obvious reasons, (or not so obvious to the hardcore fans apparentely).
She is mainly into the music, and yes, she has a very simple image and she is not into glamour but she still wants her music to be heard and she still wants to make money.

[greggerz189]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

Exscuse me? Another ayu stan? How can you claim such a thing?
I think that having at least 3 original copies albums by hikki is already making me at least someone who loves her music too and I can voice my opinion for it as well.
You are the hikki stan who's guarding hikki no matter what saying she is perfect, never complaining about her and not wanting to post on ayu's section because you know people "won't" accept your opinion because they are never positive, so now when someone says a bit of something that's not so positive towards your precious hikki he's an ayu stan? Gosh.
When people don't let you voice your opionins you call them rude.
Well you are rude for cutting their opinions off because it's not "OMG HIKKI YOU ARE A GODESS ONLY INTO THE MUSIC". Well you are just like those ayu stans, just hikki's.

If hikki for example didn't want she could choose not to write Flavor of Life for Hana Yori Dango 2.
Why do you think EMI even thinks to get her such a tie-in? Of course not because hikki asked, but because hikki will be happy to participate doing that.
I'm sure hikki isn't dumb and she knew (along with er PR & Management team) the result it might bring like from past usage of drama tie-ins.
Saying hikki is only about the music is being naive.
Basically if she wants people to hear her music she has to publicate it, specially now when she is not popular as she used to be.
She did it with HEART STATION with a lot of TV and magazine performances, she was pretty shoved to the public over that time besdies all of the dramas.
I still see nothing wrong that hikki would do performances so I don't understand why jumping.
Maybe because she is into money too?
I'm sure she knows all the consequences for the things she does, her way of promotion and marketing which serve hers and the company's purposes and since she is already a "few" good years on the industry she knows how much money she can earn from all of those projects so I doubt she's actually working hard for 100% the music.
She could sell it for free if she wanted to and if she wasn't about the money or at least not promote and market herself in any way. She could quit EMI and open an independent company, but she doesn't do it for obvious reasons, (or not so obvious to the hardcore fans apparentely).
She is mainly into the music, and yes, she has a very simple image and she is not into glamour but she still wants her music to be heard and she still wants to make money.

Points to you, ayumisreal. People just think artists are allowed to do whatever they please without consequences. It seems very diva-like for Hikaru to do as she wants if she truly prefers to stay lurking around int he studio poking around with programs and throwing albums together without having to comply to the requirements of the industry and her label (i.e. releasing music on a steady basis and promoting it with public involvement such as performances). She knows the stipulations of the industry and her label, and that's precisely why she didn't do as you said and quit to release independently. Truthfully, if she detests the type of work that is required of a mainstream pop star (magazine interviews, photoshoots, appearing in music videos and performing live on television), then she certainly has the option of entering the indie market. Since that isn't the case and she's still on a major label, it looks a bit haughty on her part (as if to say she has a chip on her shoulder) when she snuffs her label and hires other people to "promote if they must." It's just not becoming of a pop star. Look at the sales of This Is The One in Japan--they're good, but virtually nothing in comparison to her past sales, even Exodus. It might break 500,000 copies eventually, but honestly, I'm glad to see her #1 streak end, because she did virtually nothing prior to the album release to promote. She at least performed Devil Inside for Exodus how many years ago. I'm sure her label puts up with her approach to her career because she is who she is, but when her sales wane and dip like that, I highly doubt she won't receive a little heat for it. That's the nature of the business. And it is a business, no matter how much you consider yourself an ingenious artist. You are a product and businessperson as much as an artist when it comes to the music industry. When she deviates from that, it looks...almost disrespectful to the nature of the job.

[omably]

Originally Posted by greggerz189

because she did virtually nothing prior to the album release to promote.

Uhm, maybe because the release was targeted toward the US market. It wasn't even Hikki's decision to release the album in Japan.

[Amrai-chan]

^ Yeah that.

Part of me is wanting Hikaru to go and relase something already so everyone can just be calm and go back to disscussing songs and such.

Personally we just got an album, even though it was from Utada and not Utada Hikaru I'm good untill August at least. Of course not everyone is going to agree with that...

[ayumixfan]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

Exscuse me? Another ayu stan? How can you claim such a thing?
I think that having at least 3 original copies albums by hikki is already making me at least someone who loves her music too and I can voice my opinion for it as well.
You are the hikki stan who's guarding hikki no matter what saying she is perfect, never complaining about her and not wanting to post on ayu's section because you know people "won't" accept your opinion because they are never positive, so now when someone says a bit of something that's not so positive towards your precious hikki he's an ayu stan? Gosh.
When people don't let you voice your opionins you call them rude.
Well you are rude for cutting their opinions off because it's not "OMG HIKKI YOU ARE A GODESS ONLY INTO THE MUSIC". Well you are just like those ayu stans, just hikki's.

If hikki for example didn't want she could choose not to write Flavor of Life for Hana Yori Dango 2.
Why do you think EMI even thinks to get her such a tie-in? Of course not because hikki asked, but because hikki will be happy to participate doing that.
I'm sure hikki isn't dumb and she knew (along with er PR & Management team) the result it might bring like from past usage of drama tie-ins.
Saying hikki is only about the music is being naive.
Basically if she wants people to hear her music she has to publicate it, specially now when she is not popular as she used to be.
She did it with HEART STATION with a lot of TV and magazine performances, she was pretty shoved to the public over that time besdies all of the dramas.
I still see nothing wrong that hikki would do performances so I don't understand why jumping.
Maybe because she is into money too?
I'm sure she knows all the consequences for the things she does, her way of promotion and marketing which serve hers and the company's purposes and since she is already a "few" good years on the industry she knows how much money she can earn from all of those projects so I doubt she's actually working hard for 100% the music.
She could sell it for free if she wanted to and if she wasn't about the money or at least not promote and market herself in any way. She could quit EMI and open an independent company, but she doesn't do it for obvious reasons, (or not so obvious to the hardcore fans apparentely).
She is mainly into the music, and yes, she has a very simple image and she is not into glamour but she still wants her music to be heard and she still wants to make money.

Well sorry for making such an assumption but i'm really tired of how u ALWAYS bring up hikki's drama tie-ins into everything from her sales to her fame. I mean so what if she has a drama tie-in, it doesn't really prove that she is using them to ***** for fame. I think its pretty obvious thats she's in it for the money, I already admit that. I never said she was never in it for the money. Anyways I never said hikki is perfect, you just assume that, I'm not a hardcore hikki fan v_v when people complain about her vocals and songs I don't attack them. That is their opinion and oh well I really don't care. I just find it silly that people are calling her lazy because she doesn't throw herself out there. And now you're claiming that she uses her drama tie-ins to ***** herself out there... it sounds very ridiculous to me. I just find that very contradicting if you admit she doesn't perform live or tour much... I really doubt that she doesn't perform live or tour much results from her laziness. If she was so lazy she wouldn't bother releasing an american album. Sure I know inorder to sell ur music u have to be famous, but I really doubt she's trying to ***** fame with her drama tie-ins, she just wants to sell her music and make money with or without people knowing her. I just think u contradicted urself and once again you repeatedly bring up how her dramas tie-ins helped her in so many ways. I'm sorry for calling you an ayu-stan that unnecessary and definitely uncalled for, but I don't get how u can claim that she uses her drama tie-ins to ***** herself out if you claim she's so lazy to ***** herself out by performing live and such. It just contradicts to me. Like if she uses her drama tie-ins to ***** herself out there then how would she ever get attention for her albums and other singles. It isn't like every single gets a drama tie-in and no1 will buy an album based on the fact that it has 1 song from a drama especially if the album is released like a year after the drama and peopel probably don't even remember it anyways. This is why I think it is such an exaggeration. How can she possibly plan to use a dram tie-in to ***** herself out there if she wrote the song and arranged it before she they even chose her to be part of the drama? I mean how would she ever get attention if they rejected her? She obviously gets different tie-ins to grab people's attention, but I really doubt she uses these tie-ins to ***** herself out there. If she can walk down the streets of japan and be okay then I think her "whoring" is failing... I'm not gonig to disagree that these tie-ins help her sales, but I think for attention and fame, they're not doing much anything that drastic than she's already known for. And to say that I cut off ur opinion is so wrong, I read it didn't I and I replied to it. Of course using that term was rude and I apologize but I disagreed to one part and I responded. I disagree that she uses drama tie-ins to ***** herself out and I stated my reason. You shouldn't let my rants get you because I never mean to purposely offend people. It's just sometimes when I'm tired I just type whatever is on my mind and it comes out very offensive without me realizing it.

I love how u say my ayu opinions are never positive. I complimented what I like from her. I said I liked Next Level and Days on the albums and their music videos. I do have a lot of negative opinions lately I admit that, but I do still admit that she has some decent music. U just let the negative things overshadow the positives. I even bought days/green. I just buy what I think is worth it. What is wrong with that. Technically i can say u r being overdefensive of ayu for this, too. And isn't it a good thing that I don't post in the ayu section if i don't have anything positive to say? do u want me to go in there and repeatedly spam those chat threads with my "always negative" opinions? You call me a hikki stan because I don't agree with one thing.... As you can see I RARELY post in these threads in the first place. I just post when I have an opinion on something. I really hope we don't become enemies from this one incident, but I guess whatever happens happenns.

[emi♡]

omg the lack of the use of the enter key in this thread is giving me a headache.

so do we have anything new? when does the evangelion movie come out?

[omably]

^In Japan: 27th of June

[emi♡]

So soon.

Well we should have a new song then no? By then anyways.

If not....THEN I'll start complaining...since they announced it a while ago didn't they...

and we need some new stuff...those american songs can't have taken THAT much time to write

[Bad Wolf]

They sure sound like they didn't take too long, though the composition on Apple & Cinnamon is amazing.

That should've been the whole album lol

[emi♡]

while I <333 Apple and Cinnamon...I found the composition for that and This One to be a little too similar.

But those songs are like the best on the album so...never really complained about it lol

I mean they're not similar, like the same or anything...just same formula or something...I dont know...

[Bad Wolf]

Oh I know what you mean. There's this "vibe" to them that is really close so it kinda reminds you of the other. That happens with me for a few Hikki and Kuu songs


... to be honest I didn't make it past Apple & Cinnamon on TITO ._. I got to that song and promptly put it on repeat, then ignored every other track on that album lol.

[Andrenekoi]

To me, thinking that Hikki MUST do all the tours, tv lives, magazines and all that crap just because she is a pop singer is retarded... Sorry if I ofended anyone, but she can do whatever she wants until it stops working... and her way of doing things still works pretty well in Japan...


about being lazy... it's easy to say that she is lazy cuz she doesn't promote, no one is seeing the time she takes to compose... It's easier if you just receive ur music done or have to only write the lyrics... Hikki composes the melodies, the lyrics and take part on the arrangments and production, and all this takes a lot of effort and time. She was working on some TITO songs since 2007...

And even if she was lazy, she could be... she is rich and pretty much got everything someone may want to get on the music industrie... while there is people (me included) wasting time envolved on a useless discussion about how lazy she is or isn't. If you don't like the way she works, just stop suporting her! I can't understand why someone suports an artist that cause so much bothering to him/her!

[emi♡]

^I love your exclamation mark at the end.

Some people think she's lazy. Honestly...she probably really isn't...she probably just has other things to do. Or maybe, she's just not creative or something...you know...like writer's block.

who cares...I don't understand how you can't understand people that like an artist who bothers them.

Some of us are only in it for the music and we couldn't care less about the person making it.

you never know the reason...so don't let it get your wings all aflutter.


@InoriNoUta:lol for tito....you really have to take the album for what it is.

I personally would never expect it to be popular amongst a demographic of people that listen to mainly Ayu.

not that we can't have multiple music interests...just sayin...

[Bad Wolf]

Yeah it's kinda like EXODUS in that way. It's really not my cup of tea, but then I told a friend of mine about it, who really goes for that sugary mainstream pop lyrics that don't mean much of anything stuff, and she totally loved it. So TITO is at least beloved in her heart <3

Basically I can only stretch my guilty pleasure pop to like, Kuu. And maybe TVXQ. But their lyrics are still better than what was on TITO I'm not saying Hikki can't have her fun, but you know, different strokes and all.

[emi♡]

Yeah her english lyrics, at least for tito (I'm not even gonna go there with EXODUS because it's just totally wtf) are really straightforward and sort of light, and really like comical in ways.

I like them, because they amuse me, and I like to be amused...but I mean...I could definitely see how it's not someone's cup of tea.

I really wish that she would continue her US promotions...for like a year or something...because I would really like her to get big enough to where like my friends have heard the album so I could know what they think about the lyrics and stuff...but I sincerely doubt she will.

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

To me, thinking that Hikki MUST do all the tours, tv lives, magazines and all that crap just because she is a pop singer is retarded... Sorry if I ofended anyone, but she can do whatever she wants until it stops working... and her way of doing things still works pretty well in Japan...


about being lazy... it's easy to say that she is lazy cuz she doesn't promote, no one is seeing the time she takes to compose... It's easier if you just receive ur music done or have to only write the lyrics... Hikki composes the melodies, the lyrics and take part on the arrangments and production, and all this takes a lot of effort and time. She was working on some TITO songs since 2007...

And even if she was lazy, she could be... she is rich and pretty much got everything someone may want to get on the music industrie... while there is people (me included) wasting time envolved on a useless discussion about how lazy she is or isn't. If you don't like the way she works, just stop suporting her! I can't understand why someone suports an artist that cause so much bothering to him/her!

People should support her for the music (and that's what I personally do).
Her personality or the way she works of course are not involved when I buy her CDs. Still doesn't mean other issues can't be discussed or to be questioned.

amorphose brought up a good point and I understand where he came from.
I guess such things can't be discussed here though. oh well.

[FuNsTyLe]

About her being lazy... Well she is right now!

Remember how she was all "This really is the one!" and all that talk when she did those radio interviews a while back... Well now she just seems to be a bit "whatever" about it... And even if she has not fully recovered from tonsil-infection yet, her record label and promo-team should have kept her name "up there" in the critical time of an album release. She did good promotion before it was released, then when it was out... nada, quiet, nothing... So Utada / her label don't really seem to care about TITO anymore...

[nemesisyume]

well maybe they're working on something...