[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~A SUMMER BEST~

[KarenPang]

Originally Posted by Jawdarna

^ Yeah, I think this too! It explains why she no longer desires to release singles. That, or she feels as if she has proved herself (which she has, fifty singles is no small feat).

But then again, I always imagined Ayu going to 60 singles.
Perhaps I'm tapping into some kind of psychic channel?

lol I'm not ayumi so I'm not in the position to say anything about this xD

To me frankly , #1's ain't everything . Heck , I support so many artistes & even my most fave artiste BREAKERZ doesn't have any #1 to speak of in their discography but does this bother me a lot ? hell no

I just feel that this year is quite a weird year for ayumi in all aspects . Already with no release of singles for the past 2 years (even longer than the gap between BLUE BIRD & glitter/fated) & then releasing an album without any physical singles , it's so unlike her

Now I'm just waiting to see what will be her next music move will be . Hopefully after she's done with the tour & a-nation performances , she can start to properly release music in the manner that she has been doing all this while

[TeamAyu2004]

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

that's true
There was a japanese article circulating which spoke about ayu's current career state.
Apparently she's going to get major budget cuts or something like that.
Her CDs no longer break even with promotion costs and such (is what I read).

LOL, major budget cuts... I dont think something like that will happen..
manly because the japanese business doesnt run like that.
Not that she has been spending a lot of money on anything anyways... lol.
Plus, she sells more then most people in the music career right now, and thats saying a lot. She still brings in lots of money for avex just being Ayumi..
and the fact that she owns a small part of the company... well she can do just about anything she wants.

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

I definitely believe that the quality of music >>>>>>>> chart positions.

[TeamAyu2004]

^ that is true. and most good works never get to the top.
Ayumi was just an exception... lol ( i mean look whos going to get number 1 next week... -.-)

EDIT:
and I forgot about koda kumi and Hikki

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

Yeah, I do feel like sometimes the artists that DO sell so much and make it to #1, are EXTREMELY undeserving of it. Although I know that's subjective.

[RealLight]

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

I definitely believe that the quality of music >>>>>>>> chart positions.

This.

[TeamAyu2004]

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

Yeah, I do feel like sometimes the artists that DO sell so much and make it to #1, are EXTREMELY undeserving of it. Although I know that's subjective.

I wouldnt say they are undeserving... i mean everyone that goes into the industry works hard at what they do.
Its just all about the right time and right place...
I just hate that there is generally good music out there that doesnt see the light of day because what is popular at the time is over shadowing it.
(Crystal Kay VIVID, Ayumi Party Queen, Koda Kumi...) The list goes on.. I could even name some people that have great music, but hardly ever chart.

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

^EXACTLY! ESPECIALLY for VIVID...that album did horribly and it shouldn't have.

[TeamAyu2004]

^ YES! I know.. I am in lvoe with that album right now...
Rising Sun makes me want to write!! I love it... ! ::cries for the injustice::

[Bigtop]

Originally Posted by TITANIC

ASB is more like A BALLADS so it definitely will sell less than A BEST. I'm not happy she release ASB at the the end of summer,its kinda outdated

Originally Posted by ALfromHELLSING

Sales are still bad. It should have at least outsell Party Queen. It's BEST album and we are talking about JAPAN. At this rate it won't sale much better than PQ.

avex is still making easy money with it, so I guess they are happy.

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

^^Exactly! I'm shocked. I know we should expect some sort of decline for sales, but not THIS much. She is still ayumi hamasaki.

Agreed

Seems like ayu is one of those artists in my list this year that are "struggling to stay afloat"...

[TeamAyu2004]

holy crap people... lol
its not the end of the world that she gets a number 2.
I mean... start worrying when her top spot is 15 and then disappears after the first week.

as of right now, she is still selling lots (compare to a tone of other artist). and I have been told she is number 1 on itunes??
this is the digital age.
plus, as long as she is in the top 10 the company will still fund her to make as much music as she wants.
although she may not be able to do those 1 million dollar videos.

[KarenPang]

#1's ain't all that for an artiste & doesn't mean every single artiste that gets #1 all the time on Oricon really if not truly deserves so

you should ask yourself , you support an artiste just because he/she keeps getting straight #1's on Oricon ? that's so super shallow . I support an artiste because of the work he/she does

just think of how many artistes out there that produces extremely great music but can't get their releases to debut at #1 if not chart at Oricon to begin with

[douggn]

every year theirs something like this. True or not, ayumi's name will always sell stories

[adantatu2]

Originally Posted by Jawdarna

The only reason why I believe she'll release an album or mini-album this year, it because she just seems to be over singles. :/ One more month, and it'll be 2 years since her last single.

To be honest, I don't think it's Ayu's use of promotion that is the reason behind these sales, it is her lack of singles (which I guess are promotions in itself). I mean, yeah, TV lives and such are important, but Ayu hasn't released anything consistently to keep herself prominent, so she's slowly slipped. She hasn't got people going, "Oh, I liked Ayu's last two singles, maybe I should buy the album as perhaps she has recorded similar quality songs!!!" You know, it's surprising when you see a band, or an artist's CD in a shop, and you think, "Wow, they have a new album out? I didn't know..."

I think this is why Ayu isn't selling, or is as popular as she used to be.
Singles = TV lives (throughout the year), album setlist/quality promotion, magazine covers and interviews throughout the year, new fans.
No singles = No TV lives (except when album is about to be released), lack of album setlist/quality information to the public, no magazine covers/interviews unless near the time of an album release, absence of new fans.

I think the same

[jang-kun]

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN

Yeah, Avex, ayu, and I think most of Japan has accepted that she's way past her hey day. I don't care about charts at this point, I just want ayu to keep releasing new songs.

But it's me that adopted the idealism that everything that has Ayu's name on it will surely and certainly be a grand slam. I'm sorry but I'm just used to her being no. 1 in whatever chart/aspect there is.


Oh well, guess I should embrace reality now.

[Yoake]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

holy crap people... lol
its not the end of the world that she gets a number 2.
I mean... start worrying when her top spot is 15 and then disappears after the first week.

as of right now, she is still selling lots (compare to a tone of other artist). and I have been told she is number 1 on itunes??
this is the digital age.
plus, as long as she is in the top 10 the company will still fund her to make as much music as she wants.
although she may not be able to do those 1 million dollar videos.

+1
Ayu is an old singer. When I see that she was number one during so much time I'm surprise. Her longevity in the chart is really long for a solo artist.
I feel like people think that she'll be number one forever. But the most important thing is not the chart. It's the fact that she's number one in our heart.
Oricon is not important & doesn't mean good music. Watch the top 30 of each week & really, you'll see that there is few good music, people.

[ayumisrael]

5th Day
Position: #2
Sales: 6,861
Total Sales: 74,135

If there won't be an increase tomorrow then it will unfortunately won't outsell Party Queen.

[jang-kun]

Quite sad, but still it's not a flop for a release. For a best, though, it is.


Still hoping for a miracle!

[Minttulatte]

I kinda thought this will sell a lot but it looks like it's not. Oh well, #2 is better than #20 anyway, so I'm not that worried.

[ayumisrael]

I actually thought that it would sell 80,000-100,000 in total but at least it will exceed my own "bad" expectation lol.