taskinst vs. Don't tell me by Hoobastank

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by v3lun420

Did someone check if in the booklet they mention or credited hoobastank?

I am too lazy to open all my ayumi stuff, anywhere never mind i'll check

Edit: I just checked. Shame on you Tasuku.

Idealist brought up a good point.

Hoobastank and Ayu's recording staff are somewhat connected in one of the "6 degree" sort of ways..

It's highly possible that tasuku shared compositions with Hoobastank AND Ayu..

[v3lun420]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Idealist brought up a good point.

Hoobastank and Ayu's recording staff are somewhat connected in one of the "6 degree" sort of ways..

It's highly possible that tasuku shared compositions with Hoobastank AND Ayu..

LOL.... @ Idealist^^

^That's really bad.

[truehappiness]

How is that bad? It's far from bad. It's GREAT, because it means that it's tasuku's work to begin with, so he can do w/e he wants.

[Sure, people might get all riled up like here at AHS, but eh. Whatever. Just because it's not a personally acknowledged "cover that isn't really a cover"... doesn't mean that it's bad]

[TakaSama]

After reading this thread I went to the nearest CD rental shop to see if that Hoobastank album is available here in Japan. Not only is it available, but the booklet clearly labels the music as being written by two of the band members. Tasuku didn't write this song unless "Tasuku" is a pseudonym for a member of Hoobastank. I'm pretty shocked that it isn't a big scandal here since both albums are readily available, but that must just mean that Japan doesn't care very much.

[maikaru]

Originally Posted by TakaSama

After reading this thread I went to the nearest CD rental shop to see if that Hoobastank album is available here in Japan. Not only is it available, but the booklet clearly labels the music as being written by two of the band members. Tasuku didn't write this song unless "Tasuku" is a pseudonym for a member of Hoobastank. I'm pretty shocked that it isn't a big scandal here since both albums are readily available, but that must just mean that Japan doesn't care very much.

I don't even think most japanese people know about Hoobastank...
Or really care. Ayumi is loved, even though she is having a rough times, and Hoobstank... just really, I didn't even know about them until I saw this scandal. =\ And honestly, because Ayumi and Hoobastank are two completely different sounds, like genre wise, I don't think people expect it.

And billboard site clearly says composer for Don't Tell Me song is one of the band members, so that's not really possible for task to be the composer and arranger, like TakaSama said.

The only part that's similar in the songs is the opening, the music box like thingie. But I mean, it's entirely possible, but probably not the truth, that taskinst and don't tell me are simply a coincidence, because don't tell me's composition is very simple, and the progression is very standard, and not too much dynamic. there are two bars between the addition of instruments in the intro, I think really really common, and the melody is very familiar one.. it sounds like every single american rock band.

So it could be that tasku had the same thought in pattern at the exact same time as hoobastank peoples, that somehow he got the rights to the beginning melody, that he changed the eighth note slightly, or this is complete scam. LOL.

Personally, I don't think it's that big of a deal, since Hoobastank didn't make that big of a deal, like they didn't make and lawsuits or whatever. And that could mean that Hoobstank let them to use the composition. We don't really know...

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

How is that bad? It's far from bad. It's GREAT, because it means that it's tasuku's work to begin with, so he can do w/e he wants.

[Sure, people might get all riled up like here at AHS, but eh. Whatever. Just because it's not a personally acknowledged "cover that isn't really a cover"... doesn't mean that it's bad]

So if it's tasuku's song to begin with, he didn't copy he just shared it :O

That makes me feel a lot better lol

[GRACE]

^I think if it had been a vocal song, there would have been one. Tasuku probably picked it that way so no one would make a huge fuss over it.

[truehappiness]

I dunno, if it was a vocal song, it wouldn't have had the same impact imo.

I mean, Ayu changes interludes to songs when she sees it fit..

[ストロボ・EdGE]

Crap I accidentally listened to like a doll. It sounds great lol.

YUP OUT OF ALL THE SONGS EVER AYU COPIES A KOREAN SONG FROM THE 80S ABOUT HISTORICAL KOREAN MEN.

If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

[pepper]

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE

If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

showme!

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by pepper

showme!

Hoobastank's Don't tell me. taskinst is the interlude.

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...ght=hoobastank

It's probably better talk about it here.

[You know, it's really hard to find a writing credit for this song. I know people in the thread mentioned that it was written by band members but now you can't even find that credit.]

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE

If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

Seriously. Was it secret? I thought it was MU...or maybe there's a bunch lol

But honestly, listening to the previews...I mean, people HAVE to be prepared for comparisons, because a lot of the melodies are not really...unique.

And I mean, they don't really have to be imo, I like them this way...but, there are definitely songs out there that are going to sound like these...

and I don't really think it's intentional, I think they just wanted these particular sounds.


But we probably shouldn't get out the Ayu x Plagiarism argument, lest the stans go into attack mode.

[Pieces_of_SEVEN]

Originally Posted by emiko

But we probably shouldn't get out the Ayu x Plagiarism argument, lest the stans go into attack mode.

*gets ready to pounce*

[ストロボ・EdGE]

Originally Posted by emiko

But we probably shouldn't get out the Ayu x Plagiarism argument, lest the stans go into attack mode.

Agreed.

I'm so excited for the PVs... I'm not watching the previews, I want to wait for the whole thing but the CM has me so pumped. Kickin' Distance Love ass.

[Sirea]

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE

If anything has been plagiarized, it's that one interlude in Secret that totally and completely ripped off that Hoobastank song. No one cared about that though.

If you're talking about taskinst, I just listened to it, and it really is quite a common chord progression and harmonic rhythm used in rock music. Besides, it's not like Hoobastank has ever done anything terribly original and inventive to begin with... xD

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by Sirea

If you're talking about taskinst, I just listened to it, and it really is quite a common chord progression and harmonic rhythm used in rock music. Besides, it's not like Hoobastank has ever done anything terribly original and inventive to begin with... xD

It's more than than just chord progressions and rhythms lol

But anyway...I don't really mind that it's a rip off, but it's a song that obviously isn't as good as his other creations. He should rip off better songs.


How about that Love Songs album. It's taking ****ing forever to leak, and the short versions are so incredibly annoying, and if this album disappoints me, I'm going to be extremely depressed.

[StarSUCKER]

I think I just heard the pop of the safety tab on a can of worms. :x

[pepper]

^ yep, i can hear it. But got nothing really to say about it. I dont care about these things. I ENJOY MUSIC NOT DRAMA <3 (... maybe a little of drama, i promise.)

[love in music]

^^^yeah. that's her only song I think that is completely plagiarized.. and it's not really even a full song, just an interlude. I don't listen to it because it's annoying and I hate how it's a ripoff.