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Old 10th November 2012, 03:22 PM
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But what if Ayu were to relive her late 90s-early 2000s era?
Those songs worked during 99~2002 for a reason: They fit that time. Trying to do the same thing again would just make her look pathetic, desperate, runned out of ideas and the release songs that would already born old.
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Old 10th November 2012, 03:39 PM
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Many tale fans won't buy this LOVE because pierce DLC
They are expected to get nice costume like Utahime from Five but...it's just pierce that not nice at all even almost of them love "Song 4 u"
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Old 10th November 2012, 03:52 PM
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^ i will save that hurt it...
theres no reason to get that DLC... they should of had a set of ayumi costumes or something...
Can you imagine fighting in a boss battle with one of ayumi's HUGE wedding Dresses... lol
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Old 10th November 2012, 03:52 PM
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i think...promotion (in terms of marketing, tie-in, performances) is the key to good/better sales. It's all related. Sometimes, appealing to the general public widens ur audience, rather than just targeting on a specific group of people. Yes, there's just no hype build on this...but then again, I think Ayu doesn't even bother. She's just giving music to her FANS.
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Old 10th November 2012, 04:04 PM
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i think this too, she is at the point of her career where she just wants to make music and be damned if it sales or not.
Not saying she wouldn't kill for another million seller, but its just not a top priority now.
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Old 10th November 2012, 05:05 PM
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i think this too, she is at the point of her career where she just wants to make music and be damned if it sales or not.
Not saying she wouldn't kill for another million seller, but its just not a top priority now.
totally agreed.. she's just doing what she love doing and it's for her fans
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Old 11th November 2012, 01:00 AM
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from the way I see it , she has reached a stage where she feels she doesn't need to prove herself anymore

if not FIVE would have been marketed/promoted differently & likewise it goes for Party Queen as by right , physical singles usually has a tendency to get released before an album put out but it's not the case for ayumi

Also , it takes a lot of strength if not willpower to still keep on going , putting out music for the past 14 years . Even the time when she & Utada Hikaru were big sellers in the early 2000s , the way both of them release/do their own thing couldn't be anymore different

Besides , if charting in the top 5 in Oricon without any strong promo tie in is considered as a flop , then someone should do a reality check . Just think of how many more artistes out there who wants to chart in the top 5 but couldn't
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Old 10th November 2012, 07:34 PM
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Taking out the one tie-in she had it's almost like she's gone "indie" lol. Releasing music and that's all, almost (one tie-in and 1 magazine and 1 billboard).
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Old 10th November 2012, 07:39 PM
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same old, same old.

honestly, she hasn't changed her style dramatically over the years, they know exactly what they'll get and are probably just over it. I like LOVE, but it's not like I couldn't name songs from her that sound pretty similar and are 'better' in the sense that they were quite original once upon a time. not so much anymore.

whatever, I just hope she's well and remotely enjoying what she's doing. with this girl you just don't know.
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same old, same old.

honestly, she hasn't changed her style dramatically over the years, they know exactly what they'll get and are probably just over it. I like LOVE, but it's not like I couldn't name songs from her that sound pretty similar and are 'better' in the sense that they were quite original once upon a time. not so much anymore.

whatever, I just hope she's well and remotely enjoying what she's doing. with this girl you just don't know.
The thing is, unlike us fans the casual listeners who don't follow Ayu hardly think about her career that much and the styles that she has done, so I don't think that's really the cause of the decline and all. But yeah...it doesn't really matter.
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Old 10th November 2012, 09:49 PM
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Am I the only one that gets that Ayu doesn't want to sell buttloads and do things to appeal to the general public? She's been there, done that, and obviously doesn't want to work herself into the ground doing all that stuff anymore. She seems very content with the way her career is right now, some of you guys need to chill about it, too.

And besides, being in the top five is hardly a flop, especially for a female artist that's been around for nigh on 15 years. I for one am proud of her
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Old 10th November 2012, 10:12 PM
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Am I the only one that gets that Ayu doesn't want to sell buttloads and do things to appeal to the general public? She's been there, done that, and obviously doesn't want to work herself into the ground doing all that stuff anymore. She seems very content with the way her career is right now, some of you guys need to chill about it, too.

And besides, being in the top five is hardly a flop, especially for a female artist that's been around for nigh on 15 years. I for one am proud of her
I started to get it with FIVE~Party Queen.
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Old 11th November 2012, 12:48 AM
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Am I the only one that gets that Ayu doesn't want to sell buttloads and do things to appeal to the general public? She's been there, done that, and obviously doesn't want to work herself into the ground doing all that stuff anymore. She seems very content with the way her career is right now, some of you guys need to chill about it, too.

And besides, being in the top five is hardly a flop, especially for a female artist that's been around for nigh on 15 years. I for one am proud of her
It's pretty clear from her activities to date that she doesn't care about sales. If she did she'd be promoting a hell of a lot more and definitely not releasing these 5 consecutive releases on days during the oricon week. Her nor avex do not care. I think all avex care about now is preserving her single sales record.
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LOL at those calling her a flop. You guys do realize that after releasing all her Mini albums, her combined sales plus a possible BEST album will make her the best selling female singer in 2013? (I'm talking about COMBINED SALES). That's hardly a flop.

Not to mention she's still outselling ALL of my other favorite singers and bands in Japan. I follow a lot of singers and they are lucky to even debut on the top 20.

Also, I think at this point in Ayu's career, she doesn't have to fight for the top anymore. She's the best selling solo artist in Japan in history. Over 50 million CDs sold. No one will ever catch up to her. The countdown to 51 million copies have started. She's so far up there that no other female singers in Japan will ever be a rival for her or even dream of catching up to her, at least not in today's music industry. The only female that was ever a threat to Ayu's 'sales legacy' was Utada Hikaru and she's already retired.

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LOL at those calling her a flop. You guys do realize that after releasing all her Mini albums, her combined sales plus a possible BEST album will make her the best selling female singer in 2013? (I'm talking about COMBINED SALES). That's hardly a flop.

Not to mention she's still outselling ALL of my other favorite singers and bands in Japan. I follow a lot of singers and they are lucky to even debut on the top 20.

Also, I think at this point in Ayu's career, she doesn't have to fight for the top anymore. She's the best selling solo artist in Japan in history. Over 50 million CDs sold. No one will ever catch up to her. The countdown to 51 million copies have started. She's so far up there that no other female singers in Japan will ever be a rival for her or even dream of catching up to her, at least not in today's music industry. The only female that was ever a threat to Ayu's 'sales legacy' was Utada Hikaru and she's already retired.
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Oh, good point..
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LOL at those calling her a flop. You guys do realize that after releasing all her Mini albums, her combined sales plus a possible BEST album will make her the best selling female singer in 2013? (I'm talking about COMBINED SALES). That's hardly a flop.

Not to mention she's still outselling ALL of my other favorite singers and bands in Japan. I follow a lot of singers and they are lucky to even debut on the top 20.

Also, I think at this point in Ayu's career, she doesn't have to fight for the top anymore. She's the best selling solo artist in Japan in history. Over 50 million CDs sold. No one will ever catch up to her. The countdown to 51 million copies have started. She's so far up there that no other female singers in Japan will ever be a rival for her or even dream of catching up to her, at least not in today's music industry. The only female that was ever a threat to Ayu's 'sales legacy' was Utada Hikaru and she's already retired.
All you say is so true =)
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I just have a feeling that 2012 has been the WORST year for ayu in terms of charts...
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Well, she hasnt had a number 1 yet... so
yes this is true.
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Well, she hasnt had a number 1 yet... so
yes this is true.
yeah but how about other artistes that never ever had a #1 in their entire career ?
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