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Old 9th December 2007, 06:35 PM
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where can I go to hear the previews of Kingdom, I can't find them anywhere
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Yeah it's strange that Kumi fans call Ayu desperate when the new album has all the songs as pvs too. If that isn't desperate I don't know what is.


U do know he was talking about the cover? & He was making a joke right?
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Why does everyone have a song called Secret/Himitsu this year?! It's really weird!
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Yeah, it's weird.....maybe everyone has a secret....
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Why does everyone have a song called Secret/Himitsu this year?! It's really weird!
Maybe cause it sounds good ?
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ayu from CNN Interviews XD bless lol
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At least Ayu really has more of a secret...Kuu seems like the type of person who is much more open, at least that's what I feel her personality to be when I see her on TV and such.
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The album songs aren't really that good... BUT, Last Angel, and the rest of the single songs are really REALLY good compared to the album songs (except Black Cherry, I really like that song)

Overall, I'd have to say this is her worst album yet, but I'm just judging this on the previews.
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Overall, I'd have to say this is her worst album yet, but I'm just judging this on the previews.

U ears must be broken to say that. If u think it's her worst u must like Black Cherry
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u must like Black Cherry
i like black cherry =(






i haven't listened to the previews yet (1. i'm lazy 2. i wanna listen to the full album without any 'omg i know i will hate this song' running in my head)
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i like black cherry =(






i haven't listened to the previews yet (1. i'm lazy 2. i wanna listen to the full album without any 'omg i know i will hate this song' running in my head)
I didn't say anything was wrong with it. But from the previews I already like this album more than Black Cherry & alot people seem to hate that album.
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I didn't say anything was wrong with it. But from the previews I already like this album more than Black Cherry & alot people seem to hate that album.
I think I'll like it more than BC as well.
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Old 10th December 2007, 02:03 AM
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I rate this album along side with BC but I think I may change my mind, the previews are not eveyrthing anyway
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Old 10th December 2007, 02:39 AM
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the previews sound promising to me.

actually, something about it reminds me of secret.
hm. im really looking forward to hearing everything in full now!
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Old 10th December 2007, 03:09 AM
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I don't see why so many people disliked Black Cherry. I thought it was definitely a good album. In all honesty I think Secret (which was actually my first Kuu album) was her worst. The entire second half of the CD was crap to me, while the first was just a bombardment of amazing track. Her other albums were more consistent to me. I think KINGDOM will be better than Secret, and possibly Black Cherry.
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i definately think this album is going to be successful...the tracks all pretty much seem promising in general...

i dont know what everyone's problem with MORE is...i actually think it's pretty good...not her best but certainly not something that makes your ears bleed.
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so i listened to the album previews, and i thought introduction to kingdom would be fast. it's so slow, lol. but i like every song so far. MORE sounds funny though. kuu's engrish is back again.
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i think i might just like BC more...actually i dunno...coz for BC, i ended up listening only to the first 4 tracks... :S
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Old 10th December 2007, 05:15 AM
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I don't see why so many people disliked Black Cherry. I thought it was definitely a good album. In all honesty I think Secret (which was actually my first Kuu album) was her worst. The entire second half of the CD was crap to me, while the first was just a bombardment of amazing track. Her other albums were more consistent to me. I think KINGDOM will be better than Secret, and possibly Black Cherry.
my issue with black cherry was how disjointed it was.
the songs were thrown all over the place, and the mix of musical styles wasnt handled well. youd jump from hard dance track, to rock, to ballad, which would throw the flow of the music off.
for me, it is very difficult to get into.

when i do listen to it, i tend to skip around and just listen to certain tracks. i dont normally do that with cds

I actually wrote a very thorough review of the album last year.
Here, you can read it if you like:

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Black Cherry
After the awesomeness that was Best~second session~ and a bunch of great singles, I had very high hopes for Koda Kumi's 5th original album Black Cherry.
She released so many a-side single tracks that I was convinced she was going to release two albums simultaneously by splitting the single tracks in half (including WON'T BE LONG and Futari de... that'd leave room for each album to have 5 single tracks).
I really wouldn't have been surprised if she had done that, considering her publicity and sales stunts in the past (namely Best~second session~).

The complete album that we ended up getting just doesn't feel right. The singles were very diverse, but could have been better handled on an album. Here, it just sounds like most of the tracks are fighting eachother to be remembered.
I generally like the music on the album, but it just doesn't work.

The tracklist sounds like someone just took a bunch of her material and hit 'random'.
Such sloppyness and carelessness takes soo much away from some great pop tracks.

It also feels like the album proceeds in chunks.
Just so you get what I mean by that, I'll do a track-by-track review, but I'll separate it into the chunks.

INTRODUCTION
The album starts off with Kuu's typical "Shake Ya Ass!" introduction.
I like the trancey type music behind the opening speech, and the beat for the rest of the song is pretty groovy, but there's really nothing terribly exciting or memorable about this.
A lot of fans seem to be completely smitten with it though.
Get Up And Move!!
I heard a ton of great things about this song before I actually listened to it. Most people were saying that it was easily the best album track.
The chorus is really catchy, and will probably make you move around some. The first line of the chorus "So get up and move your body!" is delivered really well, and I quite like it.
Although the track isn't terribly original (what with the semi middle-eastern hip-hop production values she's been using lately, and the whispery offset harmony bits ~which do sound cool~) it's fun while it lasts.
The track would be a hell of a lot more memorable if the next track weren't so completely different. It's not even fair to either track.
~with both of those songs I felt very detached listening to them. I didn't feel like someone listening to the music and enjoying it. I felt more like someone just hearing music.~

Ningyo Hime
Awesome. One of the 4 hot wave singles. Easily one of Kuu's best tracks to date.
The hard rock feel is perfect for her strong, slightly rough voice. Her vocal delivery is amazing exactly because it doesn't need to be perfect. The song is fierce and strong, but still catchy enough to pass as a radio track.
Their really isn't much of a pop element to this song at all, it's a surprisingly heavy rock effort for a 'pop' artist, but I love it! The melody is strong, and very easy to sing to. You can even scream your face off to it if you want.
The guitar really drives the song along, while Kuu sings over top with great intensity.
The only problem with this track is that it's sandwiched between two tracks that are so incredibly different from one another that it gets completely lost.
The placement on the single was perfect. Listen to it there for the full effect.

Yume no Uta
Now, suddenly, a typical pop power-ballad. Seriously, who planned out the tracklist?
At first I wasn't too fond of this song, but it grew on me after repeated listens. The live performances of this song really helped me to llike it more, as it gave Kuu the chance to really display her vocal forte.
So, it's basically just a typical pop ballad, but it's quite nice. I really like to sing along to it, and the strings arrangement is lovely. The bridge is also pretty damn good, but Kuu does tend to overdo it just a tad at the ad-libbed "Wooah-ho-hoooooo!" bit.
The vocal ad-libbing at the end is a bit much sometimes. You can hear her voice has improved a lot, and she's really going with it. It just wouldn't hurt her to pull back a bit sometimes.
None the less, this is a solid track, and I like it. It also has a pretty decent transition into the next track.
Tsuki to Taiyou
This track is a laid-back love song. A sort of mellow ballad. It sounds like something that you could find on one of her earlier albums. It's soft and sweet, with a catchy melody.
It sounds quite friendly, and makes me smile a bit.
The use of the vocoder at the beginning is something I can't make up my mind about though. It's soo cheesey, but it works for the song.
The bridge is probably my favourite part. The vocal layers sound great, and it ties the whole song together quite well. After that though, the song falls apart when she starts up her ad-libbing again.
Ususally I don't really care if she does that, but she usually does it in-key. Something sounds very sour with her ad-libbing this time, and it drives me nuts. It's recorded in a studio! Take some time to get it right!

Puppy
Now, an up-beat hyper pop song. It's very cute and the beat is infectious.
The best part is really the chorus, "You say babe, babe, my sweet heart..."
The musical climax/ instrumental break is a bit long though. Maybe a vocal bridge could have worked better.
I really like the background "I just la-la-love soo gooooooooood" parts. The scoop sounds great.
I like the song when I hear it, but afterwards I can hardly remember what it sounds like.
If this song were a colour, it would be bright pink with swirls of different colours around the edges.
Koi no Tsubomi
After the second session I decided I was really going to pay attention to Kuu, so when this single came out I was sold.
It's adorable! A happy, up-beat, sweet pop song. It's bright and colourful, just perfect for spring! The strings arrangement just adds to the song. I can't imagine what it would sound like without the strings.
Kuu is not at her vocal best here, but the music is just so fun it doesn't really matter.
The song is just great. The PV on the other hand....I hated it. The message is disgusting and I just hate it. It's really too bad that the PV is so disgusting, it takes away from the song.

WON'T BE LONG ~Black Cherry Version~
A dark, boring, very over-the-top hip-hop version of WON'T BE LONG that she recorded with EXILE. The original track was so fun, full and exciting, but this version sounds empty and very dark. The yelling guy is cliche and annoying.
Completely forgettable....
Although it does flow well into another forgettable track.

~The album feels different from here on in. But it still doesn't mean that it's good.~

JUICY
I really don't like this track at all. It uses the same kind of 'middle-eastern hip-hop' production we've heard from her before, but it's more annoying in this track than anything else.
Most Kuu fans like this song a lot, probably because it sounds more like her older hip-hop type material. But I just think it's boring.
It's hardly catchy at all....honestly, when I first watched the video I thought "the video is just an orgy, and the song isn't even good..."
Well, I guess they had to take the weakest song and sell it somehow, so they had her sex it all up by taking a bottle and having an orgy on the floor in the PV. She looks like she was standing in the middle of a bukkake war when the video started...all glazed and just...ick.
Boring. Annoying. My least favourite of the 4 hot wave singles.
Candle Light
So, from over-active crap pop to small piano ballad.
When I think of this song, I always think that it's only a minute or two long (it's actually 3:16). It has the same problem as most of the other tracks on the album - it's squashed between tracks that are too different. The tracks on either side of Candle Light also completely overpower it though. It's so quiet and laid back that it literally gets drown out by the loudness and general noise of the surrounding tracks.
Her vocals are interesting on this one. She shows good strength in her upper-register, but the "Oh I'm soo hurt I'm crying and can barely sing but I'm going to do it anyway!" 'emotion' is a bit much. The vocals and piano also sound like they were recorded seperately.
It could be a lovely song, but its just a little bland...and its missing something.
Cherry Girl
I love the guitar intro to this song. When I first heard it I thought "This could be awesome!"
I was wrong. It's really just a noisey pop song, with an incredibly weak melody. I serisously have trouble remembering the melody, even when listening to the song.
The bridge is cool though, I like and remember that part well, but the rest just slips away every time.
The track also has this really annoying, thudding, whirring bass sound that just drives me insane! I can't stand to listen to it on a good sound system.
Overall, I don't get what the big deal is about this track.....the song ends way too early in itself. Kuu was just left to go off on her own with the vocals, and what little structure the song had to begin with just falls apart.
Yuck.

I'll be there
Love it.
A bright, relaxed, refreshing summer song. I sometimes can't decide if this or Ningyo Hime was the best from 4 hot wave.
Vocally, this song is probably one of the best matches for Kuu. She's strong, happy, and comfortable. She doesn't over do it at all, and her voice really adds to the music.
I love this song. It really makes me smile, and it's great to sing!
The instrumentation is superb, and everything has a nice, lite, dreamy feel to it. Just like remembering a great summer.
The placement in the album isn't so terrible either, which helps solidify it as one of the best tracks.

Unmei
Another ballad.
I generally like Kuu's ballads, but this one.....not so much.
The guitar introduction is nice, but the song plods along slowly just waiting to go somewhere. Finally, almost 3 minutes into the 4:21 song, it goes, but it's overdone, and feels like it was just thrown in there. It feels like someone said "****! This song needs a bridge or something....****...Here, try this....will it fit there? Yeah, kinda. Good enough. Let's go."
The melody is nice, but something is really missing...I'm not sure what it is. Maybe it's just that it's disjointed.
It's enjoyable enough when you hear it, but there's really not a whole lot to get excited about.

With your smile
A happy, cute, upbeat, danceable song.
I like it. There's really nothing terribly special about it. It's just fun, and added another dimension to the 4 hot wave single.
Good beat, decent vocals, catchy melody, smiley mood. It might seem a bit too loud if you're not in the right mood, but it's awesome fun if you're into it. ^-^
Milk Tea
The first song Kuu wrote!
It's quite cute. Very short, but it doesn't seem like such a tiny song. I love the "la-la yeah-yeah, yoo-hooo" parts. Very catchy! For a first effort, I think this song is good. It's not amazing or fantastic or anything, but writting music can be incredibly difficult.
Her voice sounds a bit nasal, probably her trying to put on a 'cute' voice. It might be annoying somewhere else, but it really works for the song.
One problem: it ends soo suddenly it's almost startling. Just melts away very quickly. Oh well, it's still cute.

~and that's where the album abruptly comes to an end, unless you have the bonus tracks~

Twinkle ~English Version~
I like this song. It's really typical j-pop, but it's still good.
Kuu's English has improved a lot, but her pronunciation of some of the words is still terrible. Not so bad that it's embarassing, but bad enough.
The bridge is effective and just kinda cool. I dunno, I just like it.
There's not much to say here, the beat is strong, the melody is catchy, the song is just fun. I think I might like the version recorded with Show better, but I'm not sure.
GO WAY!!
This track leaked quite a while ago. I think it was sometime before 4 hot wave was announced, so we all thought it would be her follow-up single to Koi no Tsubomi.
It starts with a loud orchestra slamming sound, and continues on with way too much sound. Between the bass line, the buzzing whistle, the random percussion, the vocals and everything else, this track is just far too busy for most of its play through.
It does have a bright demeanour, and can be fun if you're in the mood for over-produced, busy pop music, but most of the time it just sounds loud and a bit annoying.
It's not terribly memorable really...and right now, it feels far too long. I guess that's one of the reasons it was a first press bonus for the album. It's just a bit too much.
Oh, and hooray for the tiny, cheesy pop-guitar solo. Hahaha.
WON'T BE LONG ~Red Cherry Version~
I have no idea why it's called the Red Cherry Version.
This version of the song is basically the same as the single version, except Kuu sings her own parts, as well as all of EXILE's parts.
It just sounds weird, and a little empty without the guys. It's still fun, but not nearly as much as the regular single version....why isn't that on this album anywhere?

Ok, so overall, what we have on this album is a lot of music.
"Of course, don't be stupid. There are 18 tracks, of course that's a lot of music."
That's not what I mean. An album usually has an overall mood or theme to it. Most albums tell a story, or take a journey of some kind (either musically of lyrically). Black Cherry feels more like a Best Of as most of the tracks have nothing to do with eachother at all, and the fact that most (12 in one way or another) of the tracks were released before the album dropped. The whole thing feels disjointed and a little sloppy to me.
I actually wish that they had released two albums at once. With the amount of material on this disc, they could have easily split it up and released two 9 track albums (although they probably would want at least 12 or 13 tracks, so we'd have some more new material and more incentive to buy). Not to mention, the musical themes of cute, ballad, and hip-hop could have been easily divided into two good albums, instead of everything being thrown onto one mediocre album.

(I actually said that the albums were probably going to be black and white themes and split up a certain way and blablabla. Well, that didn't happen for Kuu, but it's exactly what happened for Ayu's second A Best release. o_O)

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Ningyo Hime
I'll be there
Yume no Uta
Koi no Tsubomi
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