Rule PV Discussion

[NintendoHTF1242]

I love how 2/3 of the fans here are thinking the people with a opinion different from theirs is "sarcastic"

Is it bad I don't like this PV? No, I have an opinion. Ayu running around with a bunch of (sexy) shirtless men and then appearing in Jewel's out of nowhere is not interesting nor entertaining. I have more fun watching poker face.

[ArchangelLegend]

The PV fulfilled its purposes and was done well. It was good fun eye candy. Well, not really for me since I wanted to see a lot of hot ninja chicks instead. ^^; But seeing Ayu in a totally different outfit was good enough.

The PV is definately appealing to j-rock fans. But I have to admit I I only watched it once and never really thought about whatever symbolism there may be in it. I just want eye candy.

If my eyes had taste buds, my eyes would burn because Ayu is hot sauce!

[waterballoon]

Well, this PV is not something that I would be watching repeatedly. That being said, I do think the PV was really not bad...

And well I don't think a decision-like PV would suit Rule at all. Rule is so energetic and lively... I mean the vibe I get from it is just different from decision, you know. So... yeah.

But opinions are opinions... even for a great PV like Days has its own haters... I'm just glad we aren't all Ayu brainwashed and fall in love with everything she does (no I'm not one either, even though I liked the Rule PV!)

[ayu_fantasy]

Originally Posted by hiroshi_ben

^hey your "wasted 4 minutes of my life" is really sacarstic man!

Haha, Just i have said, I'm counting the tactless comments on Rule PV... And i'm still counting.... I'll tell you guys the number when i finish counting ok??

Hmms, after Mirrocle world, Green, Days PV and even Guilty album, i already knew this would happen.
OMG, ayu's new album is out in march.... we shall count again

Every PV has it's own flaws, but i'm really shocked at those tactless comments...

[Keiichi_JPU]

Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy

Haha, Just i have said, I'm counting the tactless comments on Rule PV... And i'm still counting.... I'll tell you guys the number when i finish counting ok??

Hmms, after Mirrocle world, Green, Days PV and even Guilty album, i already knew this would happen.
OMG, ayu's new album is out in march.... we shall count again

Every PV has it's own flaws, but i'm really shocked at those tactless comments...

I think it's always like that at first, because people had expected something different and are disappointed, so they completely overreacted and go around hating everything and "having their lives wasted".

Which is their right of course, if you feel like that, than that's your choice

But I think if we ask everyone again, 2 years from now, there won't be as many haters anymore. It's just the sudden disappointment.

[milky_way]

Originally Posted by s1012h

It makes no sense how some of you are saying it's wrong for us to hate the video. We're allowed to have our own opinions. I still think the video wasted 4 minutes of my life, but the song is probably her best song post-GUILTY.

THANK YOU! Not liking something =/= wrong :/
FFS it's just a PV. I'm so sick of people saying that we're complaining/hating just because we have a difference of opinion.

Originally Posted by ayu_fantasy

Every PV has it's own flaws, but i'm really shocked at those tactless comments...

I haven't seen anyone say anything tactless. If someone said that Ayu looked like a *****, that would be tactless.

[love in music]

Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242

I love how 2/3 of the fans here are thinking the people with a opinion different from theirs is "sarcastic"

Is it bad I don't like this PV? No, I have an opinion. Ayu running around with a bunch of (sexy) shirtless men and then appearing in Jewel's out of nowhere is not interesting nor entertaining. I have more fun watching poker face.

then go watch that and stop complaining? you have a right to your opinion but saying over and over 'i don't like this PV.' is kind of pointless. just like saying over and over 'i love this pv' is pointless too. it's like you're trying so hard to drill your opinion into peoples heads when they really couldn't care less.

[milky_way]

^ So you're saying if someone doesn't like a song/PV, they should just keep it to themselves to please sensitive fans?

[freedreamer]

Actually...sometimes i feel like, some people who constantly have not-so-positive things to say are just finding flaws in whatever that is being done.

and what do people actually expect from ONE promotional video?
Many many colourful styles? Yes i admit Ayu could have worn something else but dont u see that..that costume was probably inspired from PCDL?????? The black costume for Heartplace + the Pink "holed" costume for SIGNAL+Hana+too late??? (im sure someone might sscream OMG SHE IS RECYCLING now...)

If u see from a perspective whereby, Ayu actually DANCED in this PV, then u appreciate more as compared to thinking...HEY Ayu danced LESS than she should...

and this PV relates to the Dragonball spirit and also touches on the CULTURE of martial arts. It's sad that people don't appreciate such details in the PV (esp the props too) and just comment based on Ayu not fufilling THEIR expectations.

[waterballoon]

I don't know about this, but all I know is that, even though I'm displeased with the fact that she's barely dancing... and some other factors... I remember that her hand was still undergoing recovery while filming the PV, so what should I be expecting?

Do some epic dancing and end up with a forever-useless right hand? I mean, I'm so sure she wanted to do dance EVEN MORE, but she couldn't, given the physical limitations that she had at that time.

And by the way, some of us think the 'jewel' Ayu is pretty, some of us think it's redundant... okay everyone knows that now, get over it!

[love in music]

Originally Posted by milky_way

^ So you're saying if someone doesn't like a song/PV, they should just keep it to themselves to please sensitive fans?

no not at all

[Huaka]

To be honest, I actually like this PV and think it's really cool. The second half of the PV is super awesome to me. I love the dancing, the shots, and then the WOOSH at the end! Total win for me. I keep watching that part over and over.

[ayu_fantasy]

Originally Posted by part of Me ♥

then go watch that and stop complaining? you have a right to your opinion but saying over and over 'i don't like this PV.' is kind of pointless. just like saying over and over 'i love this pv' is pointless too. it's like you're trying so hard to drill your opinion into peoples heads when they really couldn't care less.

Haha, relax part of me, I'm still counting such those tactless comments. cool down. I wonder how it would turn out if they are the ones dancing in RULE PV.. Perhaps it will be better than ayu's??

And to the one who enjoy watching 'poker face PV', please go watch that since it entertains you so much. Perhaps it will make you happier?? Watch something that you enjoy rather than the meaningless Rule PV. I'm sure it will be better.

[ayu_fantasy]

Originally Posted by freedreamer

Actually...sometimes i feel like, some people who constantly have not-so-positive things to say are just finding flaws in whatever that is being done.

and what do people actually expect from ONE promotional video?
Many many colourful styles? Yes i admit Ayu could have worn something else but dont u see that..that costume was probably inspired from PCDL?????? The black costume for Heartplace + the Pink "holed" costume for SIGNAL+Hana+too late??? (im sure someone might sscream OMG SHE IS RECYCLING now...)

If u see from a perspective whereby, Ayu actually DANCED in this PV, then u appreciate more as compared to thinking...HEY Ayu danced LESS than she should...

and this PV relates to the Dragonball spirit and also touches on the CULTURE of martial arts. It's sad that people don't appreciate such details in the PV (esp the props too) and just comment based on Ayu not fufilling THEIR expectations.

I agree with you freedreamer!!! This PV relates to dragonball and it touches more towards japanese culture....

Perhaps we can't blame them as some here are non-asians?? Eh, i duno


Ayu already tried something new and people are complaining... IF she did something similar to her past PVs, they will still complain.... IF there's a plot in her PV, they'll say it's a stupid plot. If there's no plot, they'll complain there's no plot.

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by Melrose

I agree.

Usually I really like PVs, but this is just a huge meh. All the scenes are basically the same thing with the same scenery. The only good part was the bird. It seems like all of Ayu's PVs lately have been bad (IMO) with max a few artistic shots. Makes you wonder why not the entire PV is artistic.

E.g. Mirrorcle World: the phone cell scene and the birds
GREEN: the birds
Days: oh, wait, this PV is actually really good
Rule: the bird

WAIT.

Why are there birds all the time? X_x New album gonna have something to do with freedom/flight/birds?

I know some ppl gonna complain if I make comparison, but even Kuu's PVs are way better than this.

sumimasen!! but may I LOL??

LOL xDDDDDDDDDDD

[love in music]

but even Kuu's PVs are way better than this.

omg i didn't even know this was said. i'm loling so hard like you won't believe, omggg.

[Surreal]

i wish i can get a good look at the tattoo on her back

[music_*]

I quite like this PV actually. ^^~
I do understand why some people like it, and some don't. I mean, we all have our own opinions. And that person who said that fans who don't like this PV isn't as dedicated to Ayu(something like that?), please grow up!
We all love Ayu, but we aren't obsessed. And I think differing opinions make a fandom more interesting!

[ayu_ready?]

I'm honest. always. an honest Ayu fan. since 2001
so please don't tell I'm bashing her, non-respecting her, her untrue fan etc
I just don't care, I know I do love Hamasaki-san & will love
I just say what I think, no matter how anyone would react to that

I'm not going to complain & say she must come back to what she was etc
because I know she won't
also, it's useless to compare "this" with old stuff too

I don't like it here how ppl who love/like/adore the PV try to persuade everyone the PV is awesome, or being rude to anyone who dislikes it for their own reasons. that's just immature

so, back to the topic

I say, it's better than MW & GREEN. that's a plus

for me it was not like a "hot mess" as smbd has stated, it was just like "a mess" in general


the problem with might be that it was too fast made

I don't want to get deep into meanings. I have my own opinion for "Ayu PVs meanings", kinda personal, kinda disagreable with other "PVs interpretations" whatever

this PV wasn't supposed to have a meaning, after all, it was just a movie promotion
it fits for movie promotion quite well

but if look from the point of view of Ayu's stuff, surely I...

what I liked was

-beggining - yeah, made me think the PV is awesome, because it was really beautiful
-backgrounds
-door
-key
-kanji
-dancers, moves of dancers, their costumes & tattoos
-birdie
-it was colorful
-angles and direction
-Ayumi in white
-ONIs
-the song
-the plot (at least it had some, obvious, but not like MW which had none)

what I disliked was

-Ayu's face. she acquired new expressions when MW was released. then used them also in GREEN. I dunno what's happening to her face & expressions. she's trying to act scary, agressive & sexy at the same time, for me it all just looks unserious, unnatural & hilarious. it spoils the PV she had never had it in her. it's bad, it will spoil every new PV of hers. why not be natural & not overreacted-overtried-nasty
-"Ayu dance" news of which had been so much promoted & excited everyone
...
anyway, it was better than usual
-black oufit, because it looked awkward on her figure
-scenes of Ayu in white, which were completely distracted, detached, distanced from the whole "show"
-scene of second verse, which seemed to be out of place too, like a "filler", lol
-some cuts of "the show", were strangely combined
-it seemed like only the 1st half of the PV was well-organised-thought because it really made sense. then it lost the sense. I just didn't get this mass-show quite well after. like they talked over the 1st PV part, and the least they just did without any intention, maybe except the dance

so, overall, I would give it 3.5/5
if it wasn't the oufits, bad scenario & Ayu's "weirdo" face I would have even liked it very much
because it's colorful & actually beautiful & upbeat

[waterballoon]

Hoho, why do I get that vibe that this thread is lingering with a threatening aura... so much so that even if people dislike the PV, they need to have doubts and hesitations in voicing them out?

There's NOTHING wrong in disliking in an Ayu work. We are NOT brainwashed robots whose lives belong to Ayu. I think it's okay to criticize work. It's just too boring if everything she has put out is PERFECT.

But of course, there's also a way in stating your dislikes that doesn't come across as rude. Not pointing fingers though.

So, I've always been praising this PV, but since I feel such a vibe, I'm going to post ALL my dislikes and complaints towards this PV.

- The exaggerated mouth movements... gosh she looks weird in some of these.

- Jeweled Ayu was not clear enough. I mean there's a difference between 'being there but not here', and 'being there'. In this case, it was the former. I think the idea and concept was wonderful, but the execution was meh. Perhaps it would help if she turned into the bird at the end or something...

- Her outfit... Sexy as it looks, it just doesn't look that right on her. I mean it being PINK in PCDL was decent, but it's just not right here.

- Where did her cleavage disappear to in the jeweled parts?

- Where's the dancing that causes 'bruises'. I mean I think it's because she pounced on her dancers, but still... I was really really really expecting someone FIERCE and POWERFUL, like talkin' 2 myself.

- Her dancers' eyes are WAY TOO photoshopped. Zin's eyes look completely WEIRD in the PV!

But even so, I can say this PV, is just like Mirrorcle World. There IS/might be a plot, but you need to open your eyes. Though for Rule, it's much more obvious.

The visuals were fantastic, her hair was great, she looked gorgeous in her jeweled self, the plot was decent... yeah.

As I said, this PV is one that I enjoy, but will not watch over and over again, unlike Days (best PV ever!)...

Sorry if I offended anyone, but seriously, guys on both sides need to give each other a break.