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Old 6th June 2015, 07:04 AM
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ayu dancing is like grandma dancing in Lelio PV.
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Old 6th June 2015, 08:25 AM
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Come onnnn kotora. Like, seriously. Pff

Despite my ugly words about WARNING pv, I think that is the only one well executed from this team. I hope they will put more thought into the next one, instead of watching Ayu & friends frolicking on beaches or whatever for 4 minutes. Though, if it has a nod to BLUE BIRD I cannot be unhappy. I hate to say it, but that team has not come up with very good stuff yet. I keep my fingers crossed.
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i'd choose Lelio over WARNING anytime, i don't like WARNINGs PV at all
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i'd choose Lelio over WARNING anytime, i don't like WARNINGs PV at all
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ayu dancing is like grandma dancing in Lelio PV.
spot on xD I remember i got a bit excited like "OMG AYU'S DOING A DANCE ROUTINE?!!!!!!!!" she's such a troll.... >_>
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Honestly, I don't think Ayu has any natural talent for dancing. I'm not disputing the fact that she works really, really hard, but...something is always missing from her performances/routines. For me, it really comes down to the little things and the consciousness about what every single part of your body is doing as you perform that separates the gifted dancer from the person that's trying really hard but not everything is clicking.
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^"Real me", "Inspire" happened though. But yeah she has a handful of music videos where she actually does routines, even in concerts she's almost never doing anything else rather than flailing around.
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ayu's strength is at theatherical performance/acting while singing and now even some acrobatics, rather than dancing except for some routines that are not the hardest. When she is dancing (like in Lelio) it's more for fun like club dancing or some really basic moves. No one should expect her to move it like BoA =P (which is the epitome of dancing) and I know I used an exaggeration.

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Peco being her dance choreographer probably didn't help.

But a lot of singers aren't gifted. A singer who can actually dance is quite the exception.
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I really like when Ayu dances. T2M, Decision, Until That Day, Game, Real Me, 1LOVE. She is not a good dancer, but she has a unique style that combined with her charisma is good.
Choreographies like Lelio or XOXO don't fit her in my opinion. Although, the performances that i said for example, fit her and she is so sexy with rock style.
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^"Real me", "Inspire" happened though. But yeah she has a handful of music videos where she actually does routines, even in concerts she's almost never doing anything else rather than flailing around.
I'm not talking about having well-choreographed routines vs. flailing around, I'm saying she doesn't have natural talent for dancing...?
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well.... i think it actually is all about well choreographed routines. The question of if she can do one herself is a whole other story, i think that's where talent comes. She can move. I mean when she dances it isn't awkward or stiff. It;s that she doesn't seem to bother anymore.

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I would like to remind everyone that she killed the choreography in the Rule PV (in a good way)! There is potential here
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I think Ayu's production values were way higher in 2005. In fact I think (miss)understood is her most polished album to date.
This album has got plenty of very high-standard productions on it, indeed. They did a lot with Ayu's voice, especially in "is this LOVE?", one of my all-time-favourites ever since. It was a time, when Ayu's music still went through a special "filter" that made her sound stand out even more than usual.
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I think Ayu can dance well with a well rehearsed choreography routine, but overall she's just not a natural dancer and that's kinda easy to tell... She more than compensates this on other areas though
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well.... i think it actually is all about well choreographed routines. The question of if she can do one herself is a whole other story, i think that's where talent comes. She can move. I mean when she dances it isn't awkward or stiff. It;s that she doesn't seem to bother anymore.
I feel like you're contradicting yourself and I'm not sure what you're trying to say lol. What I'm saying is that when she performs, no matter how hard she might rehearse or how well-choreographed the routine, the little things stick out to me like a sore thumb. Sickled feet, no extension through her ankles, not paying attention to whether her shoulders are raised or not...etc. Which is why I think she isn't naturally inclined to be a dancer.
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ayu has even said herself she's not a dancer. Yo-chan even commented once in arena tour MCs that ayu always seems to be a beat ahead of the dancers when doing routines.

i dont think she's a bad dancer. when routines are tailored to her abilities shes actually quite good (like INSPIRE, Real me, talkin' 2 myself, etc) but then sometimes ayu is very...
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