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Old 13th March 2012, 03:16 AM
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There isn't any infringement. Do you think a huge music company like avex even bother with a lawsuit? They have the money, they bought the song. It's not like they're not one of the biggest music companies in Japan
yea this may be the case. It's like Kumi buying AT THE WEEKEND?
and sometimes, SM entertainment from Korea does the same thing. like Hot Summer by f(x)
but of course, we'll see what's real soon
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Old 13th March 2012, 05:44 AM
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Every album someone pulls up a possible "cover" from some where to which turns out once the full song is out not to be the same, you can tell its not the same. And anyways ayu always says if shes doing a cover. X-factor basically is people singing other peoples songs or songs that have been arranged for them to sing. Their nothing more than puppets to there agreements for x factor. There's also always people who say someone famous stole there songs too. Madonna gets it a bit
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Old 13th March 2012, 06:36 AM
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Koda does this a lot with her music too. They buy the rights to the song.
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Old 13th March 2012, 06:42 AM
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Is this supposed to be about the music, or the lyrics? I thought Ayu wrote new lyrics for Memorial Address and just used the same music?
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Old 13th March 2012, 06:56 AM
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^ new lyrics for the song of memorial address and a remixed version of the music (a cover)
we dont have lyrics for tell me why yet so who knows if it is a cover or not...
still waiting for all the credits and what not
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Old 13th March 2012, 10:24 AM
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when did we know that "Beautiful Day", for example, is a cover song? Or it's not called as cover?
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Old 13th March 2012, 10:37 AM
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when did we know that "Beautiful Day", for example, is a cover song? Or it's not called as cover?
It's not a cover, as the lyrics are now and the music is changed from the original. They just bought the right to use the melody.
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Old 13th March 2012, 10:41 AM
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why? Memorial adress and loads of Sweetbox covers are amazing, so why to bother? Marcus Collins just realesed his first single which is... cover of a cover. And it didn't stopped me from loving it...
I know, but the "new"-feeling is gone then. Still it doesnt matter. Tell Me Why sounds really beautiful, so thats something less to bother about.
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Old 13th March 2012, 10:49 AM
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So is it truly a cover song?
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Old 13th March 2012, 12:11 PM
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Oh my goodness!! I can't believe Ayu will do covers.
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Old 13th March 2012, 01:12 PM
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They changed a bit of the melody, so it's not a complete cover, but so far it sounds quite similar. It's definitely taken from that song, no denying it, the melody, arrangement, mix...all taken more or less from it, though Ayu's version seems darker and less poppy.

BTW: If you change the arrangement and write new lyrics it's still a cover, changing the MELODY is what turns something into a different song entirely(and even then changing one or two notes isn't enough). The reason the (m)u songs are no cover is simply that Ayumi released them before Sweetbox, technically the Sweetbox versions are the cover(which is...quite ironic). Memorial Address IS a cover.
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Old 13th March 2012, 01:15 PM
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oh come on. I remember we had that same topic with GREEN being a chinese cover.
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Old 13th March 2012, 01:18 PM
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People act like it being a cover(though, not too sure about that yet, we can't know how much they changed, they definitely have something in common, same chords, same melody except for a short middle part, almost a carbon copy arrangement...) is a bad thing. Some extremely popular, succesful and GOOD songs are covers, a good artist makes a cover that is better than the original and so far it appears like Ayumi is doing that.

If you wanna go to the most extreme definition any song not composed by Ayumi/CREA is a cover.
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Old 13th March 2012, 02:21 PM
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lol why would you believe it's stolen over it being a cover?
LoL..perhaps some thinks Tell me why is a sample of Sose Me (Light On).

I watched the music video of Sose Me, it is quite lame.....


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oh come on. I remember we had that same topic with GREEN being a chinese cover.
I didn't know. What about GREEN?
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Old 13th March 2012, 02:23 PM
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i'm loving ayu's preview version so much. hope the full track doesn't disappoint..
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Old 13th March 2012, 03:18 PM
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Well, I now have a new artist to totally check...needed some Greek pop anyway =P

Right now my guess is that this is a composition that was sold to multiple labels around the world (thus not in competing markets.) As someone else said it happens a lot between Europe and Asia. If it was sold at the same time, it's technically not a cover I would think. It's usually only a cover when they buy/get permission to use the composition at a later date.

Granted the original song here came out in 2009 and it's now 2012. Assuming Ayu first heard of it and wrote lyrics in 2011, it could technically be a cover unless Avex was sitting on the composition for those years. (Ayu said that she's presented with compositions to choose from, and this could've been one of them.)

Either way, so long as it's not outright stolen, who cares =P
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Old 13th March 2012, 03:18 PM
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kotora, there is an old, I think, Taiwanese song that sounds similar to GREEN. The chorus part, anyway. The uploader of the video accused Ayumi of plagiarism. It was nonsense. You should check out the video for yourself.
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Well, I now have a new artist to totally check...needed some Greek pop anyway =P
I just downloaded the EP the song is own to review for my blog actually haha Another language to add to my iTunes library~
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Old 13th March 2012, 03:28 PM
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Marcus Collins just realesed his first single which is... cover of a cover.
It's not, it's a cover of the original by The White Stripes. Other people have sung it, but he's still covering the original song.

I wonder how this song will be credited in the booklet, will be interesting seeing all these new names considering it's usually the same 3/4.

I kind of like the original version more than what we have of Ayu's.... oops
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Old 13th March 2012, 06:03 PM
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even if it is, the song is so beautiful!
important is that evething should be done legally, enough scandals for now
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