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If we want to talk about a-nation '09... BLUE BIRD was horrible choppy in its chorus. Compared to the recording in Secret, the one in a-nation '09 was extremely staccato-ish in her articulations and execution of the notes... that's just not very good imo.
Anyway, about her peaking when her voice kinda sucked... well sorry but from her debut-2000 her nasal-screechy voice was that kind of voice that Japan loved. I don't have it with me now, but I remember an article mentioning about her monochrome in the "A" single, and she was praised for that style of singing in monochrome. Of course I'm not saying it's bad that her voice changed; when her voice went a little lower and added the vibratos in 2002.. that was wonderful, no? In fact 2003 had some of her best vocal performances, particularly in TV. 2004-2006 was her best years in terms of vocal performance to me, cos she had everything - tone, technique, control and quality. And I mean, I'm not picking on her or whatever. But hey she's a singer. And behind all the sexy get-ups, cool gimmicks, singers do one thing - sing. It's like... being an artist an using the best canvas and most brilliant colors but sucking at drawing. What's the point again? Ayu CAN sing honey. In fact I believe 2002-2006 was the period where she really proved she's not that "random girl Max picked up at a bar". But things have gone downhill ever since late-2007... and it's a fact. Nothing to be ashamed of seriously, because even Ayu herself knows and recognized it. I'm glad she's trying to make it better, so that's all that's enough for me. Things and people change, and I know it'll be hard for Ayu to return to that period where her voice just blew me away. But it's all right... nowadays my standards for Ayu have dropped tremendously anyway, and I would say most of her recent performances in the current Ayu standard is fine. Can We Go Back to where we used to be? Guess not.
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I would say she did prove herself, but it took years for her to get to that point. Just like from 1998-2002 was her period of "training" vocally, she has probably started all over from the beginning when it comes to her vocals. You can't just suddenly just revert to the way you used to be. It's like how people have to go through therapy to begin learning how to walk again if they've lost use of their legs. It takes time, and it doesn't seem like you acknowledge that at all. I mean what if you were an artist and people kept complaining about how choppy your vocals were 3 years after you released a track even though you were performing as best as you could at the time?
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I actually agree with waterballoon here. |
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And you don't like Kelly Clarkson? O_O" + :O Quote:
But maybe it's just me... but would your voice go all raspy and choppy just because you lost your hearing on one ear. I don't mind if she goes out of tune or whatever because I can understand that; but seriously, raspy and choppy voice? I can't attribute that to her loss of hearing, sorry. And if she's breaking her notes up so she can "listen" to how it sounds like, then firstly it isn't working, and secondly it obviously isn't helping much. And I don't mean to sound harsh.
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I agree I mean we can't expect her voice to just come back because that's impossible considering her voiced is so strained right now and the fact she's growing old. I think that she is constantly improving but it's just that her voice is strained.
For me I always loved Ayu since I found her out and I always will her voice doesn't matter to me I love Ayu and that'll never change. |
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If she has sung well in 2002-2006, then what's so wrong in admitting that and think, "She can sing".? Quote:
What I'm trying to say is that... she might have made singing mistakes, but no one could have told her, you know? Like you never know... sometimes people just and to everything so they can keep their rice bowls... And yes I know she's a woman who tries to give the perfect show all the time; I don't deny that, and I salute her for that. But her giving her all in her performances =/= her vocals have gone worse. In particular, the raspy and choppy tone of her voice is hardly because of "technique" because God how can there be a singing technique that makes your voice suck?
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I'm not saying she's perfect or anything, but I think that some people really don't give Ayu enough credit (or perhaps they are giving the Ayu of the past too much credit) and they continue to compare to things done 4 years ago as opposed to simply being concerned with what's happening now. Her vocals at CDL09-10 weren't that great, but according to people who actually saw her at the two shows [12/30 and 12/31] she was perfect on the 30th and on the 31st, she'd had problems with Because of You and I am... and that's it. It's just... strange. Quote:
Somehow, I feel like this is going to end up like one of those "Wait, we aren't allowed to have opinions? threads, but I guess for me, things have always been like this with Ayu. She's never been strong/consistent vocally, so I have never felt that when CDL or a tour came around that things were out of the ordinary. From my experience as an Ayu fan, her performance (usually bad) always seem to be blown out of proportion when they're compared to how past Ayu was. It's a little depressing when some fans are ashamed to say that they like something from Ayu because they're afraid to be jumped on by people who aren't so in love with whatever she's doing. It's looking like one of Ayu's biggest obstacles as an artist is herself and she basically has to outdo herself with everything she does to satisfy some fans and I don't think that's possible after 11 years. Can't people just be satisfied/happy with the way things are?* *even if some things could be better, but she's working on it! Look at Kazuyoshi -> ND CHOW! (I think I'm gonna stop here. Haha.)
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i think her voice is just overworked...plus the eye problem is affecting her pitch as well
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eye problem ? whats with her eyes? i thought ear.
i don't care if ayu's voice have worsen over the years & i will still love her for who and what she is.
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sometimes all the" lalala" and the "yeah yeah" are overdone or she try to go higher than the actual song and music which make it sounds not as good . i wonder however if her loosing of her capacity to hear on one ear have something do to with it ?
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I can't believe the amount of crap some people in here write when I clearly outlines the evolution of her vocals in an earlier post of mine. 1998-2002 wasn't the time with her "horrible" vocals, she had a little problem with her breathing through her nose, but that's it. The songs on LOVEppears, Duty and I Am... are the hardest in her discography and she sang them very nicely live especially in her earliest performances, people like to call it bad because they don't like the high pitched voice of that time.
Her vocals changed but stayed on around the same level until 2005, she managed to start breathing properly around 2003 and develop a controlled vibrato, however her range shrinked(probably due to her straining her voice too much in her early career) Around the beginning of 2006 her hearing started to affect the control of her pitch, she started getting shaky in live performances and began to stop notes early because she felt that she would go offtune(JEWEL performances showed that very obvious). Her vocals were worst around CDL0708 when her ear completely went deaf, the performances of fated and Together When were good because she was far away from the main stage for the most time and therefore heard herself better on her in-ears + she was very focused as seen on her face. At that time she struggled to hit notes and therefore lost control over her vibrato and had problems breathing properly. These problems still are there today, but she constantly improved over the last two years, CDL0910 had some performances showcasing good vocals and even the performances ruled "bad" most people on a technical level weren't even that bad, she had a way better control over her voice, her breathing, her vibrato. Her range began getting bigger with her hitting notes in Rule and GREEN she hasn't sung since M! She will never be back to her old vocals entirely, you can't sing that good with one deaf ear, hearing yourself is the most important part of singing by far, but she is improving. I would say she is back to her vocals in late 2006/early 2007 by now. I hope this is understood now, I don't want to write a long essay about this next time xD PS: Ayu never changed her vocal technique, what she talked about when she wrote about Startin' wasn't really a different technique, but just singing more forcefully with more air. Last edited by noidea; 15th February 2010 at 01:34 PM. |
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I agree this craps have to end...
I haven't been an Ayu fan for a year yet and I think her vocals have somehow improved but at the same time it sounds much more strained. I mean try recording singles then an album then tour in just a year those can strained your voice. I don't sing or something but yeah hearing does affect your singing. Yeah you can probably still sing well but you need training for that (I think Ayu is working on that). |
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I also love her deepening voice. When I got into Ayu, the first song I ever heard was Dearest, from the ending of the InuYasha anime.. About two years later (2009) I decided I'd listen to her live, so I found the clip of Ayu performing Dearest in her Asia Tour 2008.. and omg my jaw dropped. It sounded so different, but when I searched for others, I noticed her voice really had changed from the early 2000s and onwards. And I really don't mind. Her voice sounds really different, but still so so good! That's what I love about her
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You guys, now I just found out why Ayu's voice is changing over the years:
She wants to get rid of her nasal tone! I discovered it when I tried to get rid of mine, and I failed~ (sigh) It's so hard, I sounded so harsh when I tried to speak like "normal"------- Nevertheless, I think Ayu tries to sing from the diaphragm and not her "nose" anymore, but then she loses her control because she wanted to maintain her tone nasal-free! I prefer her nasal tone any day, because she sounds so great with it! I mean, it's not that nasal ~ it's actually pretty nice, (^v^)b So that where she is today--I think. |
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