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PV starts to get more understandable after reading your analysis..
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In 2013, the Earth will be crying. :O
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i always think only ayu will know the meaning behind the pvs. soo..
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firstly, get your eyes tested....the number plate on the car is not "31 CRY MIR"
In the sequence where it drives directly away (just after ayu gets in) you can clearly see the number: "13 CRY 91" and love appears, you missed my point. I never said you shouldn't interpret teh pvs, I do so myself, there are loads of meanings to be found. when I said "taking it too far" I was talking abou this insistence that ayu is talking about a singularity. where as I can see that whilst she is talkign abou ttechnology, it is a more general comment on technological progress, and not specifically regarding a singularity. (whihc i bet is a concept she's never heard of, and even if she has, still doesn't mean, and there is no reason why it would mean, that she is talking about the singularity in this pv.) and just cos the line says "did you imagine such a future", doesn't mean she's showing us a representation of the future. it could quite easily mean, and much more likely does, that many years ago (or whenever) did they imagine then that the future (meaning now) would be like this. I still you are reading too much in to this future/technology theme. i'm not saying there's no meaning there, quite the opposite, I'm just saying the meaning that is there is not as extreme as you think.
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Great interpretation. I really love the song and pv *o*
But did someone notice that around 1.25 in the video Ayu suddenly wears different shoes than b4? I wonder if this has a meaning....
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Idealist simply posted his interpretation to the thoughts thread. Nowhere did he claim it was the actual meaning of the video. Since everyone seemed to respond to it well, other initiates decided to edit it into the first post of that thread and decided to create this one. So, he has done nothing to take anything too far. He never forced this onto anyone, it was reposted because a lot of people said it helped them enjoy the video. It's just someone's personal in-depth look at something they wanted to share, no insistences anywhere whatsoever. I can also see what you're getting at jon, and that's fine. You're absolutely free to post your own interpretation and I'm sure others would agree with you as well. Last edited by Love Appears; 22nd March 2008 at 05:34 AM. |
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^Yea, it's technically impossible to have a wrong interpretation. Idealist's analysis isn't just random thoughts either, it's very well backed up by use of lyrics and visual elements from the PV (I sound like my teacher)
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Great analysis, but I still think the PV fails at showing whatever it's supposed to show.
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whoa.....just whoa. !!!
That was incredible. Great job!! I'm really starting to love the PV now and that definitely helped!
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Thank you for putting this in it's own thread, it definitely deserves it. Once again, great job Idealist!
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wow, i think someone has a bit TOO much time on their hands. it's a PV (a crappy one at that), not a oscar winning movie.
btw guys. i THINK, and idk if i'm sure here, and someone correct me, BUT SHE IS JUST RUNNING AROUND FRANCE. Last edited by Glamorous_Sky; 22nd March 2008 at 07:43 AM. |
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very deep, detailed, awesome interpretations!!!
thanks alots!! it made me understand more about the PV and the messages that Ayu wants to convey!
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hmmm.. though i thought that Idealist's interpretation of the PV is very well done.. but i somehow not really sure that ayu really HAS the idea of talking about technology and such.. singularity and such..in her lyrics.. about the human's future yes, but not specifically about technology that may come to human's future..
after reading the translation of the lyric for couple of time.. i kinda think that Mirrorcle World is just simply about herself, about her artist life. |
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wow.. you did well in analysing the pv, Idealist!
Enjoyed what I read. hahaz. I know Ayu's pvs certainly have deep meaning to it. but somehow I just can't seem to think what is it about and made them link together. What you done is great. It flows well like a story. =) |
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OMG! WOAH!OçO Thanks for the great analysis!*_* Now it's all clear!*O*
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love appears. omg, please, you have to understand what I mean when I say "too far".
maybe americans don't use it in this way, maybe english isn't your native language, maybe you're not very old or well read. I don't know. but for you to continually misconstrue and misunderstand what I mean when I say "too far" is getting incredibly frustrating. I don't think I can expain any more than my attempt earlier. just know, I am not being critical, or agressive, or rude, or anything negative. you don't need to defend him, there was no attack. @ idealist; i do like your interpretation, and I do respect it. just not sure I can agree with it totally just yet. I need to have another look at the lyrics etc. (not much time til now). I know my opinion is irrelevent, but I'm sure you'd enjoy some friendly discussion?
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I really do not want to start a feud here. But... It is fair enough if I took your "too far" statement too seriously. You seemed to react as if his analysis were somehow a bad thing, and I disagreed. I can admit there may be a bias here, because Idealist is my boyfriend. So I apologize if I did overreact. His post may have been extensive but I'm of the belief that there shouldn't be any boundaries when it comes to interpretation of any form of art, which is what this is. Quote:
I really don't want hostility here. Opinions are opinions... and misunderstandings happen. And again you may not realize you're doing it, but please try not to throw around insults in the process of trying to explain yourself. I respect your opinion, I'm sorry if I misunderstood, there is no need for this. Last edited by Love Appears; 22nd March 2008 at 02:40 PM. |
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the song sounded great and i think the pv ruined it completely...
as long as the song is good, the pv doesn't really matters imo... and ppl here loved to misunderstood/misinterpret other ppl's comments/opinions ...*sigh* Last edited by UHPlus; 22nd March 2008 at 02:42 PM. |
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Fantastic analysis, Idealist! I really love how deep everything is. It doesn't even matter if it's true or not...if Ayu were to read this, she would be glad that her PV could carry such a message...
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i know its offtopic but are u referring to those past situations when people got angry at what you wrote?
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