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Sure, they don't sound identical, but they're pretty darn close. For every person who said [song] sounded the same in different performances, you have someone else who said it didn't. I guess it depends on if you have enough confidence in other people to always believe that they can pick up on the small differences. Therefore, some people will call it "identical" when they're actually "almost identical", and suddenly everyone believes Ayu is lip-synching 2/3 of the concert because of a few people.
BTW, I'm not saying Ayu never lip-synchs. Personally, I believe she's just accused of it more often than she actually does (or at least more often than can be proven beyond reasonable doubt). |
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btw, I finally found my disc with the TV broadcast of CDL 05/06. Since it seems a lot of the people here haven't seen what happened with theme of a-nation 03, I can upload it if you want. |
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^ I've seen it, and of course there's no argument there. I can't say I've actually compared videos from AT 08, but I've seen them individually and the thought that she lip-synched didn't even come to mind. I'll have to re-watch them side by side though.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm not really directing my comments at you but there just seems to be so many people in general that deny that she would ever lip synch. At least you admit that she sometimes does. Also, aside from the videos, I've always thought from day 1 that the choreography in Marionette is just too jerky to be able to sing through smoothly.
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#125
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I just.. still can't believe Marionette is lipsynched..
She did NOT sing it smoothly in my opinions... >>) Because, as I said before, parts of singing in the video sounds AWFUL and off pitch. There is just no reason to lipsync unless it's gonna to sound really good. Its no way a perfect vocal performance at all. -_-); If that is how she records her lipsyncing, I am scared. LOL And I really like the vocal in fly high and depend on you. . . . I am weird~ ahaha |
#126
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well, as for me we can't accuse her now because we don't havefull HQ video, no one wasn't at both concerts and even if was we can't see them together to compare. This would be like "yeah! she sung that way!! so it's sounds like idenical to what i've heard a mounth ago on HK show so LYP SYNCH!!!" Well as for me videos from japnese leg of Marionette sounds different. Maybe because of MQ professional rip. Quote:
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Yeah, I remember seeing the CDL 2005-2006 where she did lip-sync "theme of a-nation '03". I never really liked that CDL, but I do remember the scene. Ha ha. Oh well. I don't know if she did lip-sync at all during AT08. Everything sounded phenomenal when I went, but you can't really tell when you are at the concert. Guess we will have to wait until the TV showing at the end of November. SO EXCITED~
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Actually TV perfs seem to be less often lip synched than tours nowadays, at least with all the TV performances I've seen. E.g. Mirrorcle World was always live. |
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^well, MW yeah, but I mean some her older perf like on AX music or something
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Precisely. I never understood why certain people insisted that Marionette was lip-synched when the performances sounded horrendous in any case. Reports from the first few legs of AT 08 in Japan mentioned that she missed some words/notes, and started late and all that. Not so much of a lip-synch if you ask me.
Call me being in self-denial or what have you but I refuse to believe that Ayu lip-synchs. It's not because I'm a brainwashed fan but it's just that I've watched enough documentaries of her rehearsing with the band and all that, insisting that songs have to be played by the band to her standards and all that... if she's really going to FAKE her singing, why go through all that trouble with the band rehearsals? I don't think it's fair to her to just insist that she lip-synchs.
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#132
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I dun get how u all guys saying she lipped my name's WOMEN or Marionette or don't leave me alone, guys please. U see Britney Onyx hotel tours and other tours, pre recorded song to use in live will sound soooooooooooooooo smooth and cleaaaaaarrrrrr like it's totally fake. ayu's performance are like even hard to listen...if i'm an artist, say...will I purposedly pre recorded my songs in bad quality so that I don't sound lip singing while i actually do? the perfor,amce seems to sounds the same because it's ayu who sings the song, not other ayu. please...If you see some TV performances of her...almost all sounded the same to me...except its lower or abit off, remember all CAROLS performane when it's 1st promoted were painful to listen...then it started to be good
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Like, the way I look at it.
If Marionette really is lipsyncing.. She is really doing herself a bad thing. Im pretty sure she can sound better live than that with that song, if it's just recording. And with a recorded lipsynced track, even if she sucked at singing the song, I'm sure they could manipulate the pitch and make her sound at least good. But yeah, if it's lipsync, I really have to ask questions about the sanity of the decisions. I obviously know she has lipsync before. But she doesn't do it often, or even when she should. Like, some lives in 2001, she didn't use even backing track when on TV. And when she first introduced Unite.. she should have used it.. ahaha. I really wonder like.. why people say she lipsyncs so much.. or uses backing track for certain songs, When we have all heard when she is sounding so horrible. -_- For me, it doesn't make sense at all.. we are not given the impression that she is a great singer 100% of time, obviously. But we can see that she forgets her lines a lot, or in evolution in countdown 2005 - 2006, sings the wrong ones, And in that countdown, I have no idea WHY she would lipsync theme of a-nation, since she sounded so good for the other songs, and she didn't lipsync them, I think. Maybe something was wrong with the broadcast or something, I have no idea. But yeah.. If you're going to lipsync, I think it should be done well? Not so that you sound like karaoke master. T_T |
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BTW, did you know kiss 'o kill from AT07 was sung live? From the DVD I always thought it was lip synched, but it's not. : O Last edited by Melrose; 28th October 2008 at 04:57 PM. |
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^as for me kiss o kill wasn't synched, i also saw some fans recording, you still can find some on tudou, when you can hear that vocals are diffrent.
As for me all that talks that she MAYBE lyp synched dLma or Marionette based on that somebody can't belive that it is really possible to have such vocals and making so choreography |
#137
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sunshine may i ask u some question
Did you go to Shanghai Concert ? in Which Section did you seat ? For Me , I go to Shanghai Concert and the concert is very good Even when ayu sing DOY in weird voice XD, but i do notice that she sing Marionette very smooth but i can't tell, if that is lypsynch or not . and for other song i think she sing live... that's my opinion
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which section did u sit??? i sit at Row 11... more to the right side.. u also found out Ayu sang DOY sounded weird? me too!!! she shouldn't sound like that... i love the DOY 10th anniversary version..she supposed to sing normally... |
#139
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There is no doubt that she has. I don't believe she does it often, but the CDL 05-06 (TV LIVE) is clear proof. avex knew it, so they changed the angle on the DVD release.
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I just surprise when she sang like that XD
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