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^ Too true! And even so, what if he's a Christian or something now... He's spent some time in American for the movie, he's bound to get exposure there. It's pretty rude to call his title ridiculous and such if it actually means something to him... The Japanese aren't in a bubble-inclosed world, I'm sure if they want to know about Jesus, there are available sources to them...
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*trembling...*
I am so HAPPY!!!! I can't wait for this, and it comes out the day after my birthday for Dears...which SUCKS. But hey, regular fans get the better cover ^-^. |
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I'm so excited about this. Gackt's done religious things before such as "Maria" even, and the lyrics are usually fantastic. He's not an idiot, and despite his character he shows his audiences, I highly doubt that he thinks he's Jesus. He's probably talking about the actual Jesus or the ideas of his teachings or something.
I'm not Christian but I've spent a good deal of my life learning about Christianity. (yay religious studies) Gackt seems like the kind of guy into spiritual stuff. |
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Also, taking this to talking about religious figures, non-religious people can write books or stuff about Jesus or other religious personalities. It's not only someone who is of a certain religion that can analyze and discuss something about their religions. Actually, I've seem christian people commenting on how they admire buddha for his lifetime story, even though they don't follow buddhism at all. I'd never call these ppl stupid, they are open minded. I don't think you have to be catholic to admire or criticize Mother Theresa's worldwide known humanitarian works for example. I'm not trying to discuss religion or turn this into a religion topic though, but I just think I should point out these points. But yeah, Gackt hasn't released it yet, so we'll still see what it will be about. I'm not a fan of Gackt (I don't hate him, but I'm just not interested). I like the songs he made for Dirge of Cerberus a lot though. But I dunno, the covers look good and definitely not random imo.
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Wow, Jesus is kind of a strange title O_o; Hearing it's from Gackt, though, I'm not too surprised I haven't been following his recent stuff, but I'm really curious to hear this single now xD I LOVE the covers~ I hope the song will be good and meaningful too ^__^
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I see that a lot. In recent years I've seen rosaries sold in regular American clothing chains like AE, Aeropostale and A&F. It's even more common in western Europe.
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I'm curious.
I hope it will be a good single. |
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Yeah, i guess everybody here are all ridiculous for listening to japanese music and not even understanding what the heck most of the artists are saying when when they are singing. Nice observation. We live in a open world. If no culture wanted to be influenced by others or wanted to influence others, these ppl should live in a shell. A lot of the japanese culture is copied and packaged like you say about Hawaii to the western, look at all the sushi houses and the carttoons trying to be anime-like now? I don't think japanese ppl find that offensive.
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And anyways, this is becoming an argument about religion and its cultural impact which, last time I checked, wasn't even allowed here. I still stick by my original statement about the single. You can disagree that it's a "retarded" title, but you wouldn't try to correct someone calling a single "Toilet Brush", now would you? For me it just seems like a totally random name that is primarily a manner of catching attention, and therefore I don't care for it. If Gackt is truly religious and wants to sing about his love for Jesus, then go right on ahead, but I highly doubt that's what this song is about. If it is, so be it. Last edited by bondingo; 20th October 2008 at 01:45 AM. |
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wait, that's absolutely ridiculous. Japanese may use english erroneously on their songs, byut they don't do it to please any american audiences. They make their songs for themselves. It's trendy, yeah, but it's trendy for them, not the US. On the other hand, some american artists use butchered spanish lyrics. You guys saying all those is ridiculous is just how you guys tell somebody you like JPOP and they go "hmph how do you listen to this japanese crap with annoying voices you don't even understand". No difference.
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And there is a difference. People listen to music for a multitude of reasons. I'll listen to music in any language, regardless of whether I understand it or not, if I like the way it sounds. That's based on the melody appealing to my ears rather than me enjoying what they're actually saying. It's not that I'm blind and liking something I don't understand either. Music is universal and melodies can appeal to anyone, of an culture. A melody can be understood, despite the fact that the lyrics may not be, and therein lies the key difference. Music is simply something that is enjoyable to hear. I know there's some science behind it (my brother's majoring in Vocal Performance) but I personally don't remember the reason. Nevertheless, music can be appealing because ANYONE can understand a melody. And by understand, I mean enjoy. Surely you may have to understand a song's lyrics in order to fully understand the song, but you can easily enjoy a melody for the purpose of entertainment because you do understand how it goes and how it makes you feel. It isn't cultural as much as it's just raw, instinctual, and human. That is not the same as someone disregarding something's original cultural relevance in order to market it for profit. If you think that's the same thing, then good for you, but I certainly don't. Last edited by bondingo; 20th October 2008 at 01:58 AM. |
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People have the right to be offended if they feel that their religious and cultural symbols are being misused. I can see clearly how this song title would be offensive to some Christians (whatever country or culture they live in).
This isn't something that only Japan does however. No doubt you could find plenty of examples of Americans (or whatever country you live in) borrowing and disrespecting images from another society or religion. AHS really is not the place for such a discussion though. If this thread doesn't get back on the topic of Gackt's new release it will end up being closed. |
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My goodness, we haven't even heard the song yet or read the lyrics... Please don't judge before hearing!!! If this song is about Jesus, then shut up about the title ><; If it's not, then complain all you want... but at least wait until the release/leak/PV or whatever xD;;; What ever happened to being happy that he's coming out with a new single...
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And there is a huge difference between someone listening to J-Pop or a sushi restaurant opening and someone taking important religious symbols that are supposed to be sacred and using them as fashion or to be ~trendy~. |
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I love ppl who contradict themselves ^ since their quote also include this:
But they still keep on babbling about it... I mean, you say you agree but you don't take the hint? How come you agreed then? After nmskalmn posted that I just stopped replying back, which mean I agreed with her but I'm not being rude/disrespectful to be dragging this over trying to continue this pointless discussion. I'm closing the thread.
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