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Old 22nd December 2012, 11:10 PM
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If they spent 1 000 000 $ for an Ayu's PV I think there is a reason ? She is the only avex singer who has PVs who cost more than 1 M $ maybe in 2008 it was not profitable but her peak was already ended ! At her peak it has been reported that she was responsible of 40 % of Avex's grossing.
I believe she pays (part of) her most megalomaniac projects with her own money...
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Old 22nd December 2012, 11:12 PM
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I believe she pays (part of) her most megalomaniac projects with her own money...
we will never know ^^
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Old 22nd December 2012, 11:13 PM
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If they spent 1 000 000 $ for an Ayu's PV I think there is a reason ? She is the only avex singer who has PVs who cost more than 1 M $ maybe in 2008 it was not profitable but her peak was already ended ! At her peak it has been reported that she was responsible of 40 % of Avex's grossing.
I think it's a mix of a tactic that spends extreme money in one release(the sheer sum of money spend can be a promotional device) and less on the next - and Ayumi paying stuff out of her own pocket to realize her artistic ideas.

Compare GREEN/Days(super expensive) and NEXT LEVEL(relatively cheap, not low-budget, but probably not very expensive) for example. I think they counted on Days/GREEN to help sell NEXT LEVEL, therefore spend especially much on it.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 12:23 AM
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Is there a way to know how much this has sold up to now?
Or is oricon always going to say 148k?

Because I'm thinking that it has sold 150k but those sales are so marginal that oricon nocurr about reporting them.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 12:28 AM
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^ i think it was said that if it sells less then 500 copies then they dont count it?

someone correct me if im wrong.
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Old 23rd December 2012, 12:36 AM
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If it's under top 300 they don't count ^^
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Old 23rd December 2012, 12:43 AM
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Are they ever going to update Party Queen's total sales or no?
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Old 23rd December 2012, 12:46 AM
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They won't count sales if they're not in the top 300 for a week, so I'm assuming the only way anymore sales will be counted is if it gets into the top 300 again (unlikely).
Sadly they most likely won't. I also think this will have at least passed 150k.

(edit: Oricon is pretty **** at recording accurate sales when you think about it lol)
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If it's under top 300 they don't count ^^
so it doesnt matter how many copies just if its over the 300 mark?
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Old 23rd December 2012, 01:03 AM
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so it doesnt matter how many copies just if its over the 300 mark?
Yep. Say the 300th highest selling album on Oricon had 1000 sales in the week, Party Queen could have anything up to 999 copies sold in that week but they wouldn't be counted.
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they are SO bad at things... lol
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Ayumi song production:
- create songs almost fully acoustic and orchestrated, pay up to 100 people for every track(most of the time probably 20-30)
Pay Timmy 5 salaries to do the choir backing vocals himself

And digital orchestras exist too, you know......

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- travel to another country, book a variety of sets and shoot in them using a mix of your own dancers and extras
Shoot PV in a nondescript room that may as well have been a hotel three block from Avex HQ

........not much else to say lol

I can't say I'm glad that PQ didn't reach 150k. I really like Ayu to do well, but I hope she can put the need to act out so OTT behind her and just focus on growing as a person and having her image reflect that.

I want something cheerful, optimistic, sometimes thought prooking and most importantly, all current and former S.O.'s firmly out of the picture
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Old 26th December 2012, 04:27 AM
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Pay Timmy 5 salaries to do the choir backing vocals himself

And digital orchestras exist too, you know......
Why would she credit a digital orchestra on her booklets?


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Shoot PV in a nondescript room that may as well have been a hotel three block from Avex HQ

........not much else to say lol
At least You & Me, Snowy Kiss, Wake me up, Nanana and Shake it (half of her pvs from this year) were recorded overseas... Actually, Nanana used a special camera to cause that annoying effect.


Disliking an album or how much it sold aren't evidences of how much was spent on producing it.
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Old 26th December 2012, 11:56 AM
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I'm not very sure why so much money is invested in Ayu's PVs. For R&R circus, I thought the PVs were fabulous but for nanana, snowy kiss etc.. they could be shot at any random location for all it's worth. It's sort of like the John Carter film, throwing in a lot of money with the end product not turning out that great.
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^ these PV's were kinda shot at random location...
PQ was shot on location because thats where she was recording...

wasn't she on vacation when she shot the again and LOVE PV's?
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Old 27th December 2012, 03:35 AM
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Why would she credit a digital orchestra on her booklets?
I didn't say that she used one, but you could realistically get the same orchestra feel from a digital one with minimal production cost. There are some great digital orchestra videos on YouTube

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At least You & Me, Snowy Kiss, Wake me up, Nanana and Shake it (half of her pvs from this year) were recorded overseas... Actually, Nanana used a special camera to cause that annoying effect.
Well my point was that you can't tell 90% of the time when she's shot overseas. It's usually in a room or a box where you can't even tell she was overseas for the shoot Or some nondescript location that could've been anywhere, not necessarily something that screams the fairyland budget, or Mirrorcle World, where you can tell she's in a secluded location/easily identifiable "foreign" locations.

They shoul've quit that camera move and saved the money hahaha!

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Disliking an album or how much it sold aren't evidences of how much was spent on producing it.
Not sure if this is directed at me, but I didn't intend that to be my statement?
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