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Old 1st February 2017, 04:19 AM
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I couldn't really watch the whole thing. I found the performance of kanariya very anticlimactic, especially since we've been waiting for her to sing that for... ever. The breaking-the-crown thing was a little tacky in my opinion, too. I like when things are said in a subtle way, but that wasn't the case.

In general, I didn't really like her outfits or the setlist either, so I guess I'm just going to pass this CDL. The last one I really enjoyed, from beginning to end, was the Cirque de Minuit.
Well, if ayu isn't something on stage is subtle xD
Not amuzed by the kanariya performance either, I would even call it broxante
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Old 2nd February 2017, 08:18 AM
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Lip synced this time:
1) kanariya
2) Fly high (choruses only)
3) UNITE! (choruses only)
4) M
5) appears
6) Because of You (the only live part is "yeaaaaaah" she sings right after the song ends)

It becomes more apparent If you listen attentively: you'll hear that despite having throat problems on 31/12, her voice suddenly sounds surprisingly crystal clear and not sick at all.
Do some of you guys still think she's singing too much and needs rest? :-P
I think it's interesting that Ayu herself knows what kind of vocals are expected from her, so she uses pre-recorded vocals with many flaws so that they would sound realistic.
For the 31/12 they lowered the key for poker face comparing to 29/12.
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15th Anniversary TOUR ~A BEST LIVE~ (11.05, 12.05 (Yokohama), 15.05, 16.05 (Osaka)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2013-2014 A (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2014-2015 A, Cirque de Minuit (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
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COUNTDOWN LIVE 2015-2016 A ~MADE IN TOKYO~ (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2016-2017 A『Just the beginning -20-』(29.12, 30.12)

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Old 2nd February 2017, 08:46 AM
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Lip synced this time:
1) kanariya
2) Fly high (choruses only)
3) UNITE! (choruses only)
4) M
5) appears
6) Because of You (the only live part is "yeaaaaaah" she sings right after the song ends)

It becomes more apparent If you listen attentively: you'll hear that despite having throat problems on 31/12, her voice suddenly sounds surprisingly crystal clear and not sick at all.
Do some of you guys still think she's singing too much and needs rest? :-P
I think it's interesting that Ayu herself knows what kind of vocals are expected from her, so she uses pre-recorded vocals with many flaws so that they would sound realistic.
For they 31/12 they lowered the key for poker face comparing to 29/12.
I'm sorry but Because of You was defintely live, the un-edited version was very bad and the longer she sang it the worse it went.
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Old 2nd February 2017, 09:12 AM
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I'm sorry but Because of You was defintely live, the un-edited version was very bad and the longer she sang it the worse it went.
It wasn't VERY bad, we've heard worse. Also I mentioned she uses not so good vocals to trick people.
The are 2 ways to tell if she's singing live:
1) fans who have arena seats very close to the stage are able to tell if they watch her lips - if they match the lyrics perfectly. We had such reports before, which were true.
2) comparing recordings of the show from different dates - if the vocals are identical - it's lipped, if they are different -it's live. That's exactly what I do.
So you see, it works: she uses bad vocals and you don't suspect her.
In general we are used that when artists are lip syncing they use vocal tracks with good vocals, but it's still a stereotype, because they can use any vocal tracks - good or bad, it all depends on impressions they want to make. Some even don't record special "live" versions, they just use studio vocals from albums, maybe because they are lazy and don't care much :-)
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15th Anniversary TOUR ~A BEST LIVE~ (11.05, 12.05 (Yokohama), 15.05, 16.05 (Osaka)
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COUNTDOWN LIVE 2014-2015 A, Cirque de Minuit (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
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COUNTDOWN LIVE 2015-2016 A ~MADE IN TOKYO~ (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2016-2017 A『Just the beginning -20-』(29.12, 30.12)

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Old 2nd February 2017, 09:38 AM
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Wonder when she records tracks for lip syncing and how many. Maybe at the band rehearsal time. Does she know from the beginning what songs she's not gonna sing, or records all of them?
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Old 2nd February 2017, 10:06 AM
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Lip synced this time:
1) kanariya
2) Fly high (choruses only)
3) UNITE! (choruses only)
4) M
5) appears
6) Because of You (the only live part is "yeaaaaaah" she sings right after the song ends)
I noticed this too. I think I'm getting better at spotting which ones of her performances are lip-sync, despite her intentionally using off-pitch recording to trick the viewer

I think her voice in the 12/31 broadcast (unedited) was unfortunate, much like the preceding year's broadcast of M(A)DE IN TOKYO. It just sounds like she's been singing too much that day, I don't know how to describe it exactly; it was husky and she evidently looks struggling when having to reach higher notes.

Also, I think her hair in the whole thing was rather unflattering, but this is my personal preference. I'm never a fan of this kind of 'do. Luckily it's obscured by a cap during the encore.

Apart from that, this CDL was interesting. The set-list was good and, at some point, full of surprises (kanariya? Holy fuck. That extended intro to Last angel? Colour me fucked.); the stage was different from last year's as well. I can't wait to see the Blu-ray version of this - hope we don't have to wait as long as we did for M(A)DE IN TOKYO.

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So here's the video of We are the QUEENS performance for you, guys. Please use it for your personal enjoyment only, don't upload anywhere.
The beginning is out of focus.
https://mega.nz/#!xk9AGbZK!8Pfy-ZvzJ...dqXYKldgHZd4w4
Thank you for this! She sounded OK here! And it doesn't look like a too-exhausting performance. I wonder why she cut it from the final day.

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The set-list was good and, at some point, full of surprises
I'm sorry but since when. Ayu always sings the same old songs with 2 or 3 different tracks, here and there.
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Lip synced this time:
1) kanariya
2) Fly high (choruses only)
3) UNITE! (choruses only)
4) M
5) appears
6) Because of You (the only live part is "yeaaaaaah" she sings right after the song ends)

It becomes more apparent If you listen attentively: you'll hear that despite having throat problems on 31/12, her voice suddenly sounds surprisingly crystal clear and not sick at all.
Do some of you guys still think she's singing too much and needs rest? :-P
I think it's interesting that Ayu herself knows what kind of vocals are expected from her, so she uses pre-recorded vocals with many flaws so that they would sound realistic.
For they 31/12 they lowered the key for poker face comparing to 29/12.
I already suspected of M, but I'm glad No way to say is not lip-synched. She killed that performance!
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Old 2nd February 2017, 01:20 PM
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That extended intro to Last angel? Colour me fucked.);
Such a nice idea, right? It was one of my favourite things about the show, so epic!!
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COUNTDOWN LIVE 2012-2013 ~WAKE UP~ (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
15th Anniversary TOUR ~A BEST LIVE~ (11.05, 12.05 (Yokohama), 15.05, 16.05 (Osaka)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2013-2014 A (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2014-2015 A, Cirque de Minuit (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
ARENA TOUR 2015 Cirque de Minuit ~真夜中のサーカス~(11.04, 12.04 Saitama)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2015-2016 A ~MADE IN TOKYO~ (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2016-2017 A『Just the beginning -20-』(29.12, 30.12)
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In kanariya, there is a sentence which isn't included in the official lyrics. That is the one before she hold the crown ( after right the aerial dance ). Can someone write down that sentence ?
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In kanariya, there is a sentence which isn't included in the official lyrics. That is the one before she hold the crown ( after right the aerial dance ). Can someone write down that sentence ?
What do you mean?
Everything is in old lyrics:
http://ayumi.primenova.com/lyrics/kanariya.htm
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COUNTDOWN LIVE 2012-2013 ~WAKE UP~ (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
15th Anniversary TOUR ~A BEST LIVE~ (11.05, 12.05 (Yokohama), 15.05, 16.05 (Osaka)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2013-2014 A (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2014-2015 A, Cirque de Minuit (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
ARENA TOUR 2015 Cirque de Minuit ~真夜中のサーカス~(11.04, 12.04 Saitama)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2015-2016 A ~MADE IN TOKYO~ (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2016-2017 A『Just the beginning -20-』(29.12, 30.12)
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In kanariya, there is a sentence which isn't included in the official lyrics. That is the one before she hold the crown ( after right the aerial dance ). Can someone write down that sentence ?
I just watched the performance and compared it to the lyrics in my CD single, and I didn't hear anything out of place.

This romaji matches the CD single lyrics:
http://www.kiwi-musume.com/lyrics/ay.../kanariya.html
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Old 2nd February 2017, 02:17 PM
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I just watched the performance and compared it to the lyrics in my CD single, and I didn't hear anything out of place.

This romaji matches the CD single lyrics:
http://www.kiwi-musume.com/lyrics/ay.../kanariya.html
Oh sorry, I just checked with the lyrics from misachanjpop and there isn't "Nakanai you ni to", perhaps she got the deficience.
Anyway, thank you
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Old 2nd February 2017, 04:10 PM
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I'm sorry but since when. Ayu always sings the same old songs with 2 or 3 different tracks, here and there.
I literally wrote what I meant immediately after the part where you quoted me

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Apart from that, this CDL was interesting. The set-list was good and, at some point, full of surprises (kanariya? Holy fuck. That extended intro to Last angel? Colour me fucked.)
I'm happy with these unexpected changes (albeit slight, to some) from her usual performances. If you're expecting her to sing all new songs in each of her live performances, I don't think that's ever going to happen. Of course she's going to sing the "same old songs", here and there.
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