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Old 29th January 2017, 09:40 AM
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COUNTDOWN LIVE 2016-2017 thoughts



31 Dec broadcast version


SETLIST
01. kanariya
02. Last angel
03. Fly high
04. UNITE!
05. poker face
06. ANGEL'S SONG
07. Depend on you
08. Beautiful Fighters
09. STEP you
XX. Dearest ~ JEWEL ~ CAROLS ~ momentum piano interlude
10. M
11. appears
12. No way to say
13. Because of You
14. NEVER EVER
15. talkin' 2 myself
16. Mirrorcle World
17. We are the QUEENS (only 29th)
18. Voyage
encore
19. The Show Must Go On ~ Feel the love ~ You & Me ~ HONEY ~ everywhere nowhere ~ WE WISH ~ independent ~ Trauma ~ + ~ Humming 7/4 ~ evolution ~ SURREAL
20. Boys & Girls
21. Who...

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Old 29th January 2017, 10:08 AM
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Her voice during kanariya is pretty good in the re-edit.

and thanks god they fixed last angel
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Old 29th January 2017, 10:37 AM
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Her voice during kanariya is pretty good in the re-edit.

and thanks god they fixed last angel
Does her voice still sound so underwater walkie-talkie-like? The last verse for sure but the rest?
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Old 29th January 2017, 11:30 AM
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The voice effect is but less. It sounded like the fancam someone uploaded.
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Old 29th January 2017, 11:56 AM
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^Oh, that's very good!
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Old 29th January 2017, 03:00 PM
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I liked new cut in "re-edit" version. They fixed lyrics mistakes in Last Angel's 1st verse.
"Samishii" toki niwa was replaced with proper "kanashii" toki niwa in Unite's 1st verse.
Maybe there's more, I only picked up those.
Too bad they can't fix ayu's hair malfunction which started in "Because of you".
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Old 29th January 2017, 03:32 PM
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I liked new cut in "re-edit" version. They fixed lyrics mistakes in Last Angel's 1st verse.
"Samishii" toki niwa was replaced with proper "kanashii" toki niwa in Unite's 1st verse.
Maybe there's more, I only picked up those.
Too bad they can't fix ayu's hair malfunction which started in "Because of you".
Thought I'm the only one who noticed her hair... it drove me crazy tbh.
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Old 29th January 2017, 03:37 PM
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Surprised this thread took so long.

I haven't heard the reedit yet, but in the live broadcast her voice was really bad. Worse than 07/08, which had been the barometer before for her worst vocal performance at a concert. It was so bad that even I didn't want to watch the concernt midway through despite the great setlist, because it was just painful. Really unfortunate because I loved the stage and setlist.

Doing an arena tour, a-nation, TA tour, and CDL is way too much and she needs to cut at least one (preferably two) of those things out this year. The quality of the performance needs to start taking precedence over the quantity.
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Old 29th January 2017, 03:53 PM
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I haven't heard the reedit yet, but in the live broadcast her voice was really bad. Worse than 07/08, which had been the barometer before for her worst vocal performance at a concert. It was so bad that even I didn't want to watch the concernt midway through despite the great setlist, because it was just painful. Really unfortunate because I loved the stage and setlist.
Oh, c'mon, it's not fair. 07-08 remains the worst one to this date. In the latest one she wasn't THAT off-key. I think it's closer to Made in Tokyo since she seems to be having similar throat problems: her voice is husky and cracks.
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Old 29th January 2017, 04:17 PM
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I don't like her outfits.
The only great outfit is the encore.
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Old 29th January 2017, 05:23 PM
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Oh, c'mon, it's not fair. 07-08 remains the worst one to this date. In the latest one she wasn't THAT off-key. I think it's closer to Made in Tokyo since she seems to be having similar throat problems: her voice is husky and cracks.
She had enough problems other than being off key (and she was off key a number of times this CDL as well) that everything all together made for a worse vocal performance.

Her voice clearly needs a break and has needed one for a very long time. I also feel that there is no need for her to be singing in rehearsals. She knows these songs like the back of her hand and all that does is put more stress on her vocal chords. Sing during soundcheck and that's it.
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Old 30th January 2017, 12:45 AM
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Countdown 07-08 had some amazing vocals. Don't know why the 2007/2008 years are considered the worst ever for so many people. When I first saw that performance of fated, I was in love.
What does "re-edit" mean? Is this the version that will appear on the official release or something?
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Old 30th January 2017, 01:59 AM
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Countdown 07-08 had some amazing vocals. Don't know why the 2007/2008 years are considered the worst ever for so many people. When I first saw that performance of fated, I was in love.
What does "re-edit" mean? Is this the version that will appear on the official release or something?
Have you tried watching UNEDITED TV version of 07-08? It's a nightmare!
I think you only watched DVD version with fixed vocals.
Re-edit has fixed sound and vocals, new angles. DVD release will have different cut with more close-ups as always.
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COUNTDOWN LIVE 2015-2016 A ~MADE IN TOKYO~ (29.12, 30.12, 31.12)
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Old 30th January 2017, 02:29 AM
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Back then I really didn't know how to watch the TV version of Ayu concerts. I would wait to get my hands on the DVD. So I have only seen that version.
After watching some of the re-edit for this Countdown, it sounds like they improved the mixing of the audio and added some clarity. Especially to the vocals.
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Old 30th January 2017, 03:52 AM
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SI also feel that there is no need for her to be singing in rehearsals. She knows these songs like the back of her hand and all that does is put more stress on her vocal chords. Sing during soundcheck and that's it.
I so agree with this, I was always confused when you can see Ayu screaming/singing her songs during rehearsals. Unless it's a brand new song. I don't see the point in rehearsing evolution 20 times before the show where she performs it 32 times every single year

I hope she figure something out to keep her voice as healthy as possible, I hate seeing people comment on how bad her voice sounds lately :/ And I hate it even more because I agree with it, lol I just want Ayu to be awesome and loved again
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Old 30th January 2017, 05:51 AM
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Her voice is only good for kanariya I guess?
And the outfit is just bland, but it's a CDL, before CDL become a pre intro to AT, it used to have bland outfit mostly so I wouldn't comment on that.

It's just her voice, it's either she's sick or it's already that bad
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Old 30th January 2017, 06:55 AM
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I wonder. If ayu going to transform this CDL into Arena Tour, will she keep kanariya? Feels like that will be CDL special.

Also, where are all her costume designers? Ayu wear same kind of outfits again and again and again. Something transparent with black bra underneath. She need to do it because of LaPerla contract or she overaddicted?

Overall, concert was good.
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Old 30th January 2017, 07:53 AM
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^Is overaddicted a word? But I know what you mean haha.

Can someone add the setlist to the first post please?
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Old 30th January 2017, 08:02 AM
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I would say the ayu's voice quality was below average. I have heard worse, I have heard better. Enough of all the "she shld rest and all..."

I like the fact that she performed some songs that was last heard many years ago. Like Kanariya (i almost forgot about this song), talkin' 2 myself, ANGEL'S SONG.. But it is also apparent that she plucked M, No way to say, Voyage out of A BEST LIVE 2013.

Costume wise, there are only 6 costumes in total, including the encore costume, so i am not that excited about it. I love the wedding dress though.

No MC section, but she did spam a whole medley of songs with poor vocals. Overall, I still feel that CDL1617 fared worse than CDL1516 in terms of vocals, songs selection, costumes etc..
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Old 30th January 2017, 09:44 AM
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Ayu is deaf in one ear and that can really effect pitch. So her vocals don't really bother me. The repetitive set list is what's driving me crazy. Jesus chirst aren't there other songs?
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