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Old 10th July 2012, 05:13 PM
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That's a good point you make there. Because I've seen the same people saying her songs are crap hating on her other releases, magazine shoots saying her breasts are fake, that Timmy is her absolute life saver because she sucked before... etc. etc. Yeah, it doesn't makes too much sense tbh. Ayu has the most terrible "fans" ever.

I should actually sign up a AKB forum and troll around there, because I think some people over here are doing the exact same thing here.

There are a lot of songs I don't like that ayu did; kanariya, Depend on You, Far Away, Daybreak and fairyland for example. But I don't call it crap because these songs aren't, I just don't like it. Happening Here is a great example of showing how I've never heard anything this absurd and stupid, I've never called it crap either. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean it's crap. .
Emi's comment really wasn't literal lol but I guess everyone else made it....
But I agree, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's crap as well. And it can also be said that because you do like it, it doesn't mean it's genius. But all in all, I think that depends on how people feel on judging music objectively as opposed to subjectively.

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Since Ayu got involved with the Illuminati, there has been a drop in quality but her music is till heads and shoulders above the **** abyss that is Jpop now.
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Old 10th July 2012, 07:19 PM
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Emi's comment really wasn't literal lol but I guess everyone else made it....
But I agree, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's crap as well. And it can also be said that because you do like it, it doesn't mean it's genius. But all in all, I think that depends on how people feel on judging music objectively as opposed to subjectively.



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I would have preferred a conversation about what audiences her releases are aimed at.


But you know, whatever AHS. Being overly defensive is what we do best.
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Old 10th July 2012, 07:58 PM
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Old 10th July 2012, 08:22 PM
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I would have preferred a conversation about what audiences her releases are aimed at.


But you know, whatever AHS. Being overly defensive is what we do best.
Being defensive about ayu's music, being defensive over one's right to complain, etc etc....


But anyway, what particular releases do you think are aimed at the general public? Stuff like what this thread is dedicated to?
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Old 10th July 2012, 08:30 PM
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Seemed to be the general opinion of a few people who...always have an opinion on that sort of thing lol

And I think FIVE also fit into that category.


idk where PQ fits in anywhere.
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^I wouldn't even know anymore. Or care. Idk lol.

But yeah I don't really know about Party Queen. It. For me, it was like making Lady Dynamite into an album and then with some depressing hangover songs. And I'm not sure who it was supposed to appeal to.
But I can agree with most of FIVE...and this release. Especially this release.

I don't even know what I personally want ayu to do anymore. But I don't think it was releasing this new best album.
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Old 10th July 2012, 08:48 PM
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idk I was just thinking about it, because in the cure thread, people are talking so much about how she's just doing whatever she wants to now, and not caring about sales or whatever.


So...I guess she wants to release best albums aimed at non-fans?
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Old 10th July 2012, 08:59 PM
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^maybe people believe that because no one wants to aknowledge that she might be trying to sell well and attract new fans and is just failing at it. Maybe everyone wants to believe she's just doing what she wants and that is why her sales are low.

Or they could just legitimately think that.

I feel like I'm posting too much here.
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I feel like I'm posting too much here.
It's actual discussion, please continue

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Old 10th July 2012, 09:26 PM
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If I believed Ayu had so many "crap" songs I would've given up on this forum a long time ago.

I don't think she actually has more than 2-3 bad songs in her whole avex discography, but that's just me I guess.

Two of Us
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I guess those are the only 3 songs I never really listen to.
oh well I absolutely love Close to you
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Old 10th July 2012, 10:41 PM
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If I believed Ayu had so many "crap" songs I would've given up on this forum a long time ago.

I don't think she actually has more than 2-3 bad songs in her whole avex discography, but that's just me I guess.

Two of Us
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hmm...
I guess those are the only 3 songs I never really listen to.
Imagine she has an idea of release another best album called A CRAP BEST?
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Chinese news papers or tabloids seems to speculate about the meaning of the disc N & A lol it's said that N is for Nagase and A for Ayumi etc... and Namie Amuro is also in this article just for reduce Ayu ! sad lol

http://www.worldjournal.com/view/ful...ance=news_pics
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nagase?! lol

someone could ask her on twitter, thatd more simple.
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^maybe people believe that because no one wants to aknowledge that she might be trying to sell well and attract new fans and is just failing at it. Maybe everyone wants to believe she's just doing what she wants and that is why her sales are low.

Or they could just legitimately think that.

I feel like I'm posting too much here.
If she's trying to attract new fans, PQ wasn't the way to go.... you can't release an album like that unless it is what you really want to do (not because I think it's bad but it is a polarizing album).

Like I said in the cure thread, if ayu wants to attract new fans she would be doing better at it. She would have every resource available to her at the drop of a hat. Her sound would be more mainstream. Sure she may have tried some mainstream themes like with ANother song but in the end she still goes against the current trends with the majority of her new works.

Plus the lack of promotion for each release, the lack of lives, smaller number of magazine appearances etc, all lead me to believe she just doesn't care about that stuff as much anymore. She just cares about making music.

As for ASB, seems more AVEX's doing especially since it's almost an identical to Kumi's summer release. But it isn't that bad of a way to keep casual listeners interested. And it's fan-voted as well so I doubt any of the Japanese fans will complain.
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Old 11th July 2012, 03:17 AM
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^I think that all sounds valid too I guess

I'm just never sure what to think or where to draw the line...with regard to what avex wants and what ayu wants. I really don't know how they think or what ayu sincerely wants or thinks about her career atm.

So idk what she thinks about ASB also lol.

I just wish this wouldn't be released towards the end of summer lol.
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Old 11th July 2012, 11:58 AM
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alright I just found this on the internet, and I just can't, ROFLMAO

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aahaha they did a pretty good job at it

but if they're implying that they want/think this best will sell more than Uncontrolled, I think they're in for a shock (probably)
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I feel like something like that was going to be made by a crazy Oricon bar fan eventually, haha.
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Old 11th July 2012, 02:13 PM
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lol, love the picture.
I hope this sells well in the charts.
Something unexpected and all.
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